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S05E01 The MangoliveSep 17, 1993, 8:34 AM ETthe next morning20 posts by 16 posters
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William S. Pawlak

Ok, all in all a great show...very consistent with previous episodes.

A few gripes, however:

  • The first time we see Kramer is *already* in Jerry's place. Later, when he makes his extravagant entrance, it's not quite as breath-taking...even the audience tries to cheer, etc., but it just doesn't go over very well.
  • "I think it moved!" We've heard this one before in the massage episode. They could have come up with another line..."It's getting there, I feel it, It's going, it's going..." Anything new would have been funnier.

3) Did Elaine seem particularly hard-edged last night? Usually she's a bit sarcastic and biting, but last night she seemed even more so. Especially when they were in the diner and Jerry was (astonished) asking her if she ever faked it... She was just saying yes, yes, yes. Normally, I believe she'd try to be *nicer* about it.

Anybody else notice anything this?

But as I've said, truly a great show and I am looking forward to the rest of the season!

bp [email]

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Dean AdamsWilliam S. Pawlak

Yea. good show... But I missed the TITLE. Does anyone have it?

joneskDean Adams

According to my local paper, the title was The Mango.

Mike BishopWilliam S. Pawlak

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In article William S. Pawlak, [email] writes:

bit

Especially when

faked it...

*nicer* about it.

I thought so too. It was like she was blatantly biting into Jerry.

Overall, (I hate to be in the minority) I was a little disappointed in the show.

Mike Bishop

Ben ScottMike Bishop

You're in the minority, but certainly not alone. It reminded me of an episode last season, though I forget which - the pacing was somehow off, the direction wasn't good. The jokes just didn't work for me. It was like they were imitating themselves, I felt. Besides, how long can they rely on topics like that? They're just as funny trying to find where they parked at a mall. Too much of this episode was predictable.

I did laugh when George is asking Kramer to pay for the fruit and he said "I only carry hundreds..."

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Mr. NoiseBen Scott

In article , Ben Scott wrote:

You know how that must have got to George. Remeber the episode where he buys the ganag tickets for the movies & gets all worked up because no one has small enough change to pay him back right away? I know more than one person like that...made me chuckle just thinking about it...

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John C PersonsWilliam S. Pawlak

I thought Elaine was *hilarious* last night. Then again, she is my favorite character on the show -- her facial expressions and voice inflection just crack me up. I thought her response was perfect, given Jerry's attitude. (Something like: "How could he not know? He was probably in a daze from all the beers.")

Favorite line from Elaine: (Pointing in the air)

" Fake Fake

Fake Fake "

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Roy EassaJohn C Persons

[email] (John C Persons) writes:

I agree 100%. I cannot think of a character in any program on TV that I've enjoyed more.

Mr. NoiseJohn C Persons

In article , John C Persons wrote:

I hate to join John in being a traitor to my sex, but I have to agree: if I had to put up with Jerry & George, I'd get a little bitchy, too! Don't you all agree that Jerry was taking it just a *little* too seriously? (Of course, that's what made it so funny...)

YES! I love the look she has when she does a line like that...

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Tim ConnorsWilliam S. Pawlak

I'm with Mike. Lots of funny moments but overall a bit disappointing. Kinda like when a band you like puts out a song which is a knockoff of their last big hit: The Contest:The Mango::Sledgehammer:Steam Just the first examples that sprung to mind.

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Mr. NoiseTim Connors

In article , Tim Connors wrote:

Agreed. It paled in comparison to The Contest. OTOH, it was funny & I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

Sure, Steam is a knockoff of Sledgehammer, but it still makes you want to get out of your chair & contort your face in funny ways...

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Roy EassaBob Gilbert

[email] (Bob Gilbert) writes:

If they don't already, I bet they start after this great episode!

Haydee C. RodriguezBob Gilbert

Yes, believe it or not there is. I tried it this past July up in Maine. It's called 'MANGO MADNESS.' It wasn't that great - it really didn't do justice to the almighty Mango.

Craig DavisHaydee C. Rodriguez

Although, like most Snapple Natural Beverages, it was damn good, even though it may not do the mango justice!

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Craig DavisBob Gilbert

Yes, they do - It's called Mango Madness - What an appropriate name!

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This has happened before. "Male Unbonding" for example.

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In article [email] (William S. Pawlak) writes:

Did anyone else notice anything else "different" about the Premier episode? I noticed that they were trying a lot of new things. Funny camera angles, trying a lot of new things, yet at the same time really hitting the same things that seemed to "work" before. Almost as if they were trying to hard.

Have there been any behind-the-camera changes that might account for this?

Also -- what happened when Jerry gives back his father's wallet that he found on the last episode last season? Will we find out on the next episode?

What about Russell Dalrymple--
    Did he really drown?
    Will he ever learn Elaine's "Ketchup Secret"?

Find out next week on .....

Steve McClure