Delores

I, was convinced that he said "Delores," although it took me awhile to figure what body part that rhymed with...

My question is, what does "Delores" have to do with cars or fish? Isn't this what Jerry originally said when he couldn't remember her name? Did this occur to anyone else?

-susan

Can we confirm Delores? I mean it was Jerry's last guess but we still don't know for sure.

Also I love the part when Kramer peers through the door and says "Ah yes, the mother load".

Hilarious

BRC

                 ^^^^   "lode," I think.

Ghod, yes! How does he do it, being so funny with a commonplace line like that?

And when he entered the patient's room, holding a huge bouquet of gloves, "Paydirt!"

                                     ---Al

In a previous article, [email] (Brian R. Cook) says:

I think the credits just listed the actress as "Mystery woman" so there doesn't seem to be any confirmation.

In a previous article, [email] (Susan Keeney) says:

Well, there was the infamous "Delorean" sports car ... the first one with gull-wing doors, for the car reference maybe.

In article , [email] (Robert Clark) writes...

The fish part has to do with what a clitoris smells like....maybe?

	I was afraid to suggest it, but I have no doubt that's it. It could
	also be what he smelled when opening the 'fridg; smell is one of the
	mind's strongest memory "triggers."

	Also, the "ann" sound at the end of Delorean makes me lean towards
	the Taurus.

Sein-ing off ...

In article [email] (Robert Clark) writes:

A minor point... but Mercedes had the first gull wings on a production model. Sometime in the 60's I believe.

Robert Clark ([email]) wrote:

Incidentally, this probably belongs in alt.testosterone.cars, but a Mercedes Benz made in the 1950s had gull-wing doors, as did the Lamborghini Countach, made in the late '70s, I think.

See my other post for the answer to the car AND a suggestion for the fish, in this thread somewheres.

As far as cars go, anyway, maybe DeLorean?

[email] (Susan Keeney) writes:

do we all know now? it's clitoris, although the rhyme is a bit of a stretch. who said ORIFACE??? that would really be a stretch.

YES!!!! i'm glad someone else was thinking about this as well. the car part has to be a Delorian (sp?) reference....but i'm lost on the fish part. any- one know??????

In [email] writes:

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I'm gonna HAZARD a guess on the fish part and say "Delphinus", of which the literal translation is Dolphin (Greek); this is my contribution to today's discussion on a GREAT GREAT SHOW! Have a good weekend, all!

In [email] (Jean M. Curcio) writes:

I think the fish reference didn't refer to any specific fish, but possibly the 'femenine' odor of the body part in question. It's an old joke:

There's only two things that smell like fish,

and one of them is fish.

Several people have suggested that the fish reference is actually a sort of allusion to the scent of female genitalia.

While I will not argue the similarities involved... at least in some cases... I think there is something wrong with the logic here.

The only way the alleged scent could be intended would be if

• The name was 'Delores'
• The name reminded Jerry of 'clitoris' because he couldn't pronounce it
• 'Clitoris' reminded Jerry of a fishy aroma
• Therefore,'Delores' reminded Jerry of a fishy aroma, once removed logically

I think everybody will agree that the probabilities are not high. He said the name reminded him of a fish and a car. He did not say the name rhymed with a female body part, which in turn reminded him of a fish because of the smell. In fact, the entire topic of the rhyme had NOT YET COME UP AT THAT POINT...

Wes

The "car" reference was to "Delorean" (the name reminded him of a car...). The fish reference was to "Salmon" (the name reminded him of a fish...)

[email] (Robert W. Northcott) writes:

Oh, yeah, I can see a big connection between "Salmon" and "delores" and certain sensitive parts of the female anatomy. "Salmon"? Huh? Anyone? I just don't get where Salmon comes into this, excpet Kramer talked to him in the sauna a couple weeks back ;).

In article , [email] (david n

i don't know how significant this is, but yesterday i saw a nissan van which had a sticker saying "DE COLORES" on its windshield. --- later, sunil

As a mnemonic device, JS may have used the contraction of "DeLorian" and "remoras" to remind him of "Delores".

Remoras are those shark-sucking fish.

---
Joe

In article , [email] (Jean M. Curcio) writes...

	I'm gonna HAZARD a bigger guess and say it is "Dollarfish", I
	have to admit I sat down with a dictionary looking through the
	D's for a fish rhyming with Dolores. That was the closest I could
	except for "Dories" which are a type of walleye.

-Dave

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I don't know if anyone mentioned this,but I loved when she realized he didn't know her name and Jerry hadn't a clue he replied meakly - "Gipple?"

That was damn funny.

Dorsal? *as in dorsal fin*...just contributing to a swervy cause...

Jeff

Are you sure her name was definitely Delorese? I ask because in the credits it said "Mystery Women." You'd think they would hav eused the name if she were given one.

In article [email] (Scott Padulsky) writes:

Not at all. That listing is also what goes into TV GUIDE if there's room to list the cast. So it's safest for them to leave the name unstated lest some newspaper spoil it.

Jon Alan Conrad

At the beginning of the show we are led to believe that Jerry DID know her name, at one time, but could not think of it. (If it reminded him of a car or a fish or something, he had to have heard her say it at least once.)

The way he reacted at the end made me believe that he suddenly remembered her name was Delores... more likely than just coming up with a "better guess".

IMHO.

(Does that mean "In my --- opinion"? I've not been doing this long and I am guessing based on context. And can someone fill in the H for me?)

-Rob

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In article [email] (Rob Shearman Jr.) writes:

IMHO means in my humble opinion.

how do *you* all do?

i have to cast my vote for "The Marathon". the one where jerry gearge and elaine go to a friend of elaines to watch a marathon. this is the one where gearge proclaims:

"i am george castanza, lord of the idiots."

jimmy [email] university of illinois at chicago

ps- i *do* well!!

[email] (Scott Padulsky) writes:

	What amazed me is that Jerry never made the most obvious
guess.  I also expected that this was because that would turn out to
be her name in the end.  I guess not, though, since they never
mentioned it.
	The name?  Regina.
					John Whelan

In article , [email] (John

Actually, I don't think that's the most obvious guess. Where I grew up (NYC), the name was pronounced Regeena.

I don't want to start an "it's a NY thing(TM)," but maybe because common pronunciation in NY is Regeena, the characters would not have thought of its rhyming with a female body part.

[email] (Susan Keeney) writes:

Cars...perhaps related in sound to ->Delorean? (sp?)

just me

Well, the car reference is to a DeLorean (the Back-to-the-Future car). Don't know the fish reference, though. Anyone?

What rhymes with Delores??

Sue *

[email] (Susan Keeney) writes:

The first car that comes to mind that sounds like Delores is a Delorean (sp?). This may also confirm that her name really was Delores. Can anyone come up with a car or fish that also sounds like a word that rhymes with a female body part? I don't know about the fish thing, though.

Good point, Susan.

I am very disappointed that none of you people have thought about the obvious. The fish is tuna.

Think about it!

My guess for the car was DeLorean too. As for the fish, the closest I can get is Walrus. I know it's not a fish, but Jerry couldn't remember clearly and a walrus is an aquatic animal. *shrug*

YES!! i'll buy that....and THANK YOU...that ones been bugging me all day! it's far fetched, but close enough to make me happy. walrus it is. :)

Uhhh, I still don't buy it. Remember, it dawned on him what her name was when he opened his refridgerator. I say he saw The Fish in there. He doesn't buy walrus meat, and I'd say he doesn't keep a DeLorean in there, either. ;-)

Maybe it was part of a fish. "Dorsal", maybe??

In reply to the need for a change of pronunciation for the Dolores/Clitoris rhyme - Webster's lists a secondary pronunciation of "clitoris" with the second syllable stressed.

Personally, I like to say it with the first syllable stressed :)

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: --Personally, I like to say it with the first syllabe stessed, too. I like to say it a lot. All of the time. In class, at the bank, walking down the street, in church. It is such a beautiful word. What does it mean?

--Jon

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The American Heritage Dictionary, 1987:

clit-o-ris (clit'*r-is)

Where * is the upside down "e" like in "about". As for "What does it mean?", pick up a dictionary. It might do you some good.

zombie

In article [email] writes:

Picking up a woman would be even better...

[email] (Stephen James Meyer) writes:

I guess it's all in the tongue (said the cunning linguist).

It definitely is Delores because Jerry said it was related to a car or fish. Now I am not sure about the fish but the car is a Delorean.

Also favorite episode Bubble Boy!

Rob

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Nope. Cars: Taurus (a Ford model, for those of you overseas, etc.)

Fish: pelores??? (something like that, I think, just off of the top of my head).

How 'bout Madame Bovary??

In article [email] writes:

Well, since we are pulling out the BIG GUNS on this one, I felt it was time for me to pull out mine.

Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary says :

cli-to-ris \kli-'tor-*s\ (where "*"=schwa)

This looks to me like it would be pronounced in a way which would rhyme with Delores.

-Evan Golub-

PS : I say this is the right answer, and I CALL IT!!! So, END OF DISCUSSION. It has been called.