Observations from The Seinfeld Chronicles

S01E01 Good News, Bad NewsretroAug 17, 2008, 10:44 PM ET19 years later5 posts by 5 postersalt.tv.seinfeld
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Alexis Machinealt.tv.seinfeld

I pop in the 1st DVD of Seasons 1 & 2 and watch the very first real pilot, The Seinfeld Chronicles (now note the DVD has it twice: "original" and "revised" versions) and I notice the following noteworthy nuggets:

*The coffeeshop is not the same and it's a table, not a booth

*The outside shot of Jerry's apartment building: it's not the same apartment building as later on

*The first "trashing" of George is the waitress making sarcastic remarks (like how nobody wants to see him on caffeine)

*The very first act of deceit is the coffeeshop waitress declaring serving regular coffee to George (or so she says) against George's wish

*The first entry of Kramer into Jerry's apartment: HE KNOCKS ON THE DOOR and does not just barge in

*There is clear and unmistakeable reference to how George should be doing the opposite (I can't recall the exact transcript but it can't be missed if you had seen The Opposite recently)

On Aug 17, 7:44 pm, "Alexis Machine" wrote:

I especially remember The Opposite reference in the pilot since The Opposite is my favorite episode ever. Nice foreshadowing. Hee hee.

Paige

LDB.JRPaigealt.tv.seinfeld

Ah, but did you notice what Jerry calls him when he tells Jerry the Mets score? His original name in the series which was Kessler. After the pilot they changed it to Kramer.

Mark MellinLDB.JRalt.tv.seinfeld

In article , "LDB.JR"> wrote:

The writers did try to remedy this in season nine's The Betrayal, however:

from Mike's site, <http://seinfeld.xtreemhost.com/Scripts/TheBetrayal.html>:

[Setting: Jerry's new apartment]

Notice: "ELEVEN YEARS EARLIER"

(Jerry, carrying a box, is moving in to his apartment for the first time. He meets his across-the-hall neighbor, Kramer)

KRAMER: Oh, hey, how you doing?

JERRY: Oh, hi. I-I'm Jerry Seinfeld. I'm movin' in. I saw your name on the buzzer - You must be Kessler.

KRAMER: Uh, no. Actually, it's Kramer.

JERRY: Oh.

KRAMER: Uh, you need any help, or..?

JERRY: No, thanks. But I ordered a pizza. You want some of it?

KRAMER: Ah, no, no, no. I-I couldn't impose.

JERRY: Why not? We're neighbors. What's mine is yours. (And with that, Jerry made the most fatal mistake of his life)

KRAMER: (quietly) Ohh (Eyeing Jerry's empty apartment) Really?

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA

"Alexis Machine" wrote in message news:g8c66s$[email]...

How about Kramer isn't Kramer, but "Kessler". Jerry calls him "Kessler" when he comes in to watch the Mets game on TV well past midnight.

Jerry and Larry David at that time hadn't yet sought a release from the real Kenny Kramer to use his name, so in the pilot, the character is "Kessler". Years later in "The Betrayal" (the backwards episode), at the end where they show Jerry meeting Kramer for the very first time, after Kramer introduces himself as Kramer, Jerry says he thought his name was Kessler.

Elaine does not yet exist in the pilot. They decided to add a female character after the pilot.

George is supposedly cool in the pilot. In the laundromat scene, he tells Jerry that the woman who is coming to stay with him is sending him signals and Jerry needs to pick up the signals. Contrast this with telling a woman in a later episode that he can't come upstairs for coffee because it is getting late.

Jerry's apartment layout as well as building is also different.

The Kramer barge in was developed later, as was his wacky hairstyle.