The Library

S03E05 The LibraryretroJun 23, 2000, 4:48 PM ET9 years later14 posts by 9 posters
Question

Fans discuss the library fine from the episode, calculating the exact amount Jerry owed for the overdue book based on Kramer's math about daily fees over twenty years.

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Taff

Did we ever find out how much Jerry got fined for not returning the book Tropic of Cancer .

Pen Cap ChewTaff

It's a nickel a day for twenty years. It was like 10,000 dollars. But if it was a dime a day it could be a hundred thousand!

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The News Guy(Mike)Pen Cap Chew

Pen Cap Chew wrote:

Very funny - what a great episode. ======================= the dialogue went like this:

JERRY: This you're not goin' to believe. The NYPL says that I took out Tropic of Cancer in 1971 and never returned it.

KRAMER: Do you know how much that comes to? That's a nickel a day for 20 years. It's going to be $50,000

JERRY: It doesn't work like that.

KRAMER: If it's a dime a day it could be $100,000

. . .

In the episode Jerry writes out a check to Bookman but we never see what the amount is for.

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IrishThe News Guy(Mike)

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:06:12 -0400, "The News Guy(Mike)" wrote:

At a nickle a day for twenty years would have been about 360$ - dime a day, you do the math.

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Irish

The News Guy(Mike)Irish

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:06:12 -0400, "The News Guy(Mike)" wrote:

Irish wrote:

Tell the writers. I think this was a COMEDY show not The Learning Channel.

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Brian OConaillThe News Guy(Mike)

The News Guy(Mike) wrote in message ...

For all Kramers' weird brand of intelligence, I don't think he was ever made out to be a whiz at mental arithmetic. He was however prone to wild overstatement. I'm sure the writers knew what they were doing.

Brian

DaveThe News Guy(Mike)

$365.25 actually. Gotta include the Leap year days.

I liked how they had Kramer overestimate the fine. A kneejerk reaction to hearing about how an X fine accumulates for a tremendous period of time, like 20 years, led him to a preporterous figure. Or perhaps he's just an instigator, maybe he just wanted to scare Jerry with the gross overestimate?

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wolfseynDave

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Are you sure there was/were/are/is 5 leap years between 1971 and 1991? I don't have a smart enough calandar to figure this one out...

and, if you want to get *REALLY* technical, ok.. this is crazy: "The following expression ... is used for calculating the length of the tropical year: 365.2421896698 - 0.00000615359 T - 7.29E-10 T^2 + 2.64E-10 T^3 [days] where T = (JD - 2451545.0)/36525 and JD is the Julian day number. However, the interval from a particular vernal equinox to the next may vary from this mean by several minutes." That's just nuts! (http://astro.nmsu.edu/~lhuber/leaphist.html)

Would a New York City bookstore really get that technical? Well... they are crazy enough to make him pay more than the book is worth ... or are they? These libraries go from screwin' you behind your back to screwin' you right to your face!

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Alainwolfseyn

yes there were 5 leap years between : 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988.

the rule (less technical tan yours) is simple. If a year is divisile by 4 is it leap EXCEPT if it is divisible by 100 (1900 was not leap) EXCEPT if it is divisible by 400 (2000 was leap).

am I clear ???

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Davewolfseyn

[email] wrote:

Yow!!

Lemme guess, you've been imitating Leonardo DiVinci's sleep patterns and this gives you more time to think about the things you never previously had the time for? :)

I would guess they'd charge whatever it costs to replace the same book. That'd probably be the fairest way to handle it.

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Dave wrote in message ...

Well, in fairness, you have to factor in that in that time they are depriving someone else of the use of the book. And as a deterrent factor I think a lot of places would charge over the list price.

Brian

I think he would not have paid the overdue charges. For lost items libraries only take the cost of the item itself (at least that is what the local library does- I keep losing magazines all the time). So it would have been like the price of the book

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Davepakku

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But libraries' prices for books is way out of whack. I once lost a library book and had to pay for it. A lousy Abe Lincoln biography and they charged me (well, my parents, I was around 10 years old) $70 for it. There's no way a book that was ancient to begin with is worth that kind of money. And these were 1978 dollars too.

Remember when George was charged like $98 for his lost copy of "Rochelle, Rochelle"? (I know, apples and oranges, but I was reminded of that scene so I thought I'd share.)

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Pen Cap ChewThe News Guy(Mike)

Oh yeah, that's right...50,000. Damn... :)

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