Great Episode

Is it just me or was last night's episode awesome. I really liked the Kramer bit about him having problems after being kicked in the head.

The phone bit was absolutely hilarious.

And I especially loved the bit about the cop in the coffee shop. Another example of New York's finest showing no interest in public safety. The best line was: "Ya know, a muffin can be very filling!"

[email] (John ($al) Salomone) writes:

Not to single out John at all, but I am amazed by this. Last night as I watched the show, after about 20 minutes I began to think "Boy this is terrible. The net will really be crackling with people complaining about this tomorrow. This is even worse than the shows where they were in California." I logged in this morning and read news. No complaints. I thought "It's early yet. I'm sure the complaints will come rolling in." Here it is late afternoon, and everyone seems happy.

Now I'm not saying there were *no* funny moments last night. But overall, I was very disappointed. Usually I get several chuckles and two or three big belly laughs out of a Seinfeld episode. Last night it was 3 or 4 grins and 2 or 3 chuckles. The courtroom scene was ridiculous. What's worse, it wasn't funny. This Newman [is that what they're calling him?] guy is really, really annoying to me. Not funny-annoying like Kramer, but get-this-guy-outta-here-annoying.

People have different senses of humor. Maybe I'm alone here. But something has changed. Last season I was laughing at this show; this season I'm not.

I'll say it. I can remember a couple of mildly amusing moments (Kramer's reaction when Jerry told him he couldn't act, and "vomiting is not a deal-breaker" or whatever the line was), but I can't remember anything *funny*. Maybe all the funny stuff just slipped my mind.

But overall,

Absolutely terrible. Ditto for the scenes with the network people, and the diner scene with the cop. (MHO, of course)

No, there are two of us.

But

Elaine's absence hurts, but it's been a lot more than that. Hope they get back on track.

John

Make that three! I was *ready* for it to be funny...but it was pretty flat. After the first half-hour, my girlfriend and I agreed that it was not a very good episode...

That Newman guy is just too over-the-top. IMHO the reason Seinfeld is usually good is that they examine little quirky behaviors and objects, and they don't get too *wild* like most other sitcoms.

I thought the best way to put this whole self-referential thing to bed would have been to have the network people say "...your idea for a show sucks". End of story, and back to Jerry's apartment and "reality" :-)

-David Victor

(P.S. Did anyone see him on Leno? He used all the same jokes from last season's shows...I was pretty disappointed. Maybe the guy needs a vacation and a year off from the T.V. grind...)

Newman...yes of Drake's coffee cake fame. I think Newman epitomizes why I hate NY, so it is hilarious to watch him.

Perhaps you are watching each show with high expectations of belly-splitting laughter where before you probably had no expectations...

Personally I thought the show was funny, not the best but definitely Seinfeld. The only scenes which were stupid were the scenes with Elaine. They just seemed so tacked on.

--tom

In article , [email] (David Atkinson) writes...

I must agree...but don't give up the boat on the entire season just yet!

I'd have to agree with David. After waiting for several weeks for the two-part August show and then this week's show, it was a letdown. For a show that's supposedly about "nothing", there's been more and more "some- thing" in each so far this season. Yes, there have been some funny parts - Jerry calling 911 and the subsequent ride in the police car, the radar detector for helmet trade ("it's broken, isn't it?"), and... Well, there should be more. I hate to say it, but this last show became just a very little bit tedious.

No, he's not alone, and I realize that NBC must appeal to everybody. To me, the funniest parts of the show are the dry, subtle humor that makes fun of everyday life. Who doesn't know insecure and neurotic people? (If you don't, I can introduce you to several...) I've said this before (and not gotten flamed yet...), but I don't think Kramer and his wild gyrations are all that funny. My favorite episodes are probably "The Fix Up" (glad it got the Emmy) and "The Pen", to which people can relate, as opposed to the multitude of other sitcoms. I hope they get back to more of these episodes for this season.

John

p.s.  Yes, I do have a friend at NBC who solicits my opinions.  He also
      says their nickname for the new show to follow Seinfeld starting
      next week (can't remember real name now) is "Seinfeld Gets Married",
      and they expect it to appeal to the same audience.

[email] (John Schiermeier) writes:

I just wanted to say that I think "The Pen" was the funnies Seinfeld ever, and probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen. His family just kills me. Sorry if this is straying too far from the original post.

Regards, Cory Padfield

In article [email] (John Schiermeier) writes:

It amazes me how many people think this was a great episode. For me it was the WORST (at least until the LA episodes). I don't think I laughed once. Now I wish I could see it again because I KNOW I must have missed something.

For me the best episode was the Magic Loogie one.

[email] (Susan Beutelschies) writes:

Are you talking about the Keith Hernandez one? That was good.. but not my personal favorite. Mine is the 1st part of the "Keys" (pre-hollywood kramer).

And I don't remember the Pen being the funniest one either.. but I admit that they are all FUNNY!

In article somebody@somewhere writes:

I didn't write the above, which is pretty obvious because the user ID is quite different from the site from which the message originated. I actually wrote the referenced "original post". The mistaken attribution has propagated into at least three more posts, and while this mistake didn't generate too much hate mail, but only some strong disagreements like the above, others could. I already sent a message to the attributor, so there wasn't any need to leave her name above.

So remember the message that everybody ignores when they post (at least from my version of rn):

(Be sure to double-check the attribution against the signature, and trim the quoted article down as much as possible.)

For the record, although I enjoyed "The Pen", I don't think it was the "funnies [sic] ever".

John

In a previous article, [email] (Doug Cha) says:

Since we're on this, I personally loved that parking garage episode. I was SCREAMING!!

Robin

The subway episode was awesome! It was the best in my book.

Dave

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Schiermeier) writes:

For me the two funniest episodes were the "Pen" and the "Pony Remark", which won an emmy. The Pen was funny for me as my mother lives in a senior citizens housing area and the episode was exactly like the people who live in this area. Also, older people do not seem to use air conditioners either. Anyway it was great!

Just my .02 :)

Roberta Rheaume [email]

These are my opinions as my employer does not watch Seinfeld (what a dope!)

REGARDING FUNNY EPISODES:

Imitating real people (hilariously) seems to be what Seinfeld does so well. I loved the part when Mrs. Seinfeld is going on about 'Who wouldn't love you' to Jerry, and meanwhile the dad is going on about what a great pair of pants he has on, how comfortable, great price etc. My family is just like this...everyone talking on their own subject, no one listening in particular to anyone. I loved it! None of the rest of my family will watch this show either! Cheers, Pamela Cho

I'd have to agree with David. After waiting for several weeks for the two-part August show and then this week's show, it was a letdown. For a show that's supposedly about "nothing", there's been more and more "some- thing" in each so far this season. Yes, there have been some funny parts - Jerry calling 911 and the subsequent ride in the police car, the radar detector for helmet trade ("it's broken, isn't it?"), and... Well, there should be more. I hate to say it, but this last show became just a very little bit tedious.

No, he's not alone, and I realize that NBC must appeal to everybody. To me, the funniest parts of the show are the dry, subtle humor that makes fun of everyday life. Who doesn't know insecure and neurotic people? (If you don't, I can introduce you to several...) I've said this before (and not gotten flamed yet...), but I don't think Kramer and his wild gyrations are all that funny. My favorite episodes are probably "The Fix Up" (glad it got the Emmy) and "The Pen", to which people can relate, as opposed to the multitude of other sitcoms. I hope they get back to more of these episodes for this season.

John

p.s.  Yes, I do have a friend at NBC who solicits my opinions.  He also
      says their nickname for the new show to follow Seinfeld starting
      next week (can't remember real name now) is "Seinfeld Gets Married",
      and they expect it to appeal to the same audience.

Personally, I found the episode pretty tedious. It should have been edited to half an hour. The self-referential might have been funny, but I had already read about the trailer on the net, so I was bored with it by 9:07.

IMO, Seinfeld depends on Julia Louis-Dreyfus, and she was barely in the episode at all.

Mathew Englander.

[email] (Mathew B Englander) writes:

I thought it was a good episode (hell they are all GOOD), but wasn't the BEST by far.

my favorite episodes:
        1)  The Keys part I  (Hollywood Adventure Part I)
        2)  George get's heartburn and has to go to the hospital
        3)  The Nose Job

And KRAMER is the one that the episodes Depend on.. unfortunately George is the one most episodes seem to focus on (besides Jerry).

It's always a matter of opinion, because I disagree with you.

   Kramer should stay a supporting character.  As such, he is
   hysterical and always brings some off-the-wall genuinely
   funny moments for the others to react/not react to when he
   pops up. I think that if he had a larger part, he would be
   over the top, and those touches that he brings to the show
   would just clobber the viewer over the head.

   George is great.  He is just so neurotic.  I'm sure there
   are people like him. I think that Jason Alexander really
   deserved the Emmy.

George and Elaine play well off of each other too.

   George, Elaine, and Jerry are like real people.  Kramer isn't
   (or at least not like very many real people).

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[email] (John ($al) Salomone) writes:

i think the guy who played the cop was actually Tackleberry from the infamous Police Academy movies... some painful memories there (i had to translate the entire series into Romanian, a few years back :-)

anca

[email] (Anca I. Busuioc) writes:

That sounds like a good plot line. Imagine...

George: You know, that cop looked kinda like the guy from the Police Academy series.

Jerry: You know, I think you're right.

Elaine: Oh gawd, don't remind me! I had to translate the entire series to Romanian, a few years back.

Jerry: Really? Romanian?

George: I wonder if Steve Gutenberg is as funny in Romanian. Frankly, I don't think he's all that funny in English.

Elaine: I told you guys not to remind me!

Jerry: I didn't know you knew Romanian? All that time we dated you never said, "Hey Jerry, I know Romanian!"

George: Now Russian, I think he'd be hilarious in Russian. Don't you Jerry?

Jerry and Elaine look incredulously at George.

George: What? Do I have a stain on my shirt? Damn, my dry cleaning bills.

	Yes, that was him.  I was half expecting him to pull out his 18" gun
and start acting out the Tackleberry character from PA.
	Rich.

In article , [email] (John ($al) Salomone) writes:

John> I really liked the Kramer bit about him having problems after John> being kicked in the head.

I liked that fact that Kramer's first appearance in the episode was in the middle of a scene so that there was no screaming and cheering as he made an entrance a la Fonzie.

-milt