The Opposite - A novel way of blaming George W. Bush for Barack Obama’s mistakes.

S05E22 The OppositeretroAug 7, 2009, 4:51 PM ET15 years later8 posts by 3 posters
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Thread discusses a political column using The Opposite episode as metaphor for Obama reversing Bush policies, with tangential debate about Seinfeld references to real-world politics.

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Ubiquitous

The title of today�s column is borrowed from an episode of �Seinfeld,� in which George Costanza decides that, in any given situation, he is going to do the opposite of what he normally would do. By the end of the program, the perennial loser has a beautiful girlfriend, a new job and his own apartment.

Slate�s Jacob Weisberg argues that President Obama is doing the opposite of what George normally would do--George W. Bush, that is--but things aren�t going so swimmingly for him:

	Obama, who did not have much global expertise before coming
	to office, molded his approach [to foreign policy] around
	his predecessor�s errors. Bush�s naive idealism and
	unilateralism encouraged Obama�s realism and multilateralism.
	Bush�s boycott of North Korea, Cuba, and Iran fed Obama�s
	eagerness to engage pragmatically with those tyrannies.
	Bush�s neglect of the Mideast peace process fed Obama�s
	urge to plunge into it. The new president has reversed the
	old one�s prioritization of Iraq over Afghanistan and, in
	what has become the political clich� of 2009, tried �hitting
	the reset button� on relations with Russia.
	In so doing, Obama now faces an inverted set of hazards:
	getting overcommitted in Afghanistan, putting too much
	faith in the United Nations, accommodating dictators
	instead of standing up to them. Most alarmingly, given
	all that his predecessor did to discredit them, Obama
	has failed to stand up for the broader ideas of democracy
	promotion and humanitarian intervention. Surely if not
	for Bush, Obama�s instinct after the Iranian election
	would have been to identify with those risking their
	lives to free their country, not to get back to his
	attempt at dialogue with Ahmadinejad.

You�ve got to love Weisberg�s heads-I-win-tails-W-loses attitude. Even when Weisberg believes Bush was right and Obama was wrong, it�s STILL Bush�s fault. Obama would have done the right thing if only Bush had done the wrong thing!

Now, in fairness to Weisberg, he does intend this as a criticism of Obama: �Politicians, like generals, suffer from a tendency to fight the last war.� And his argument doesn�t stand up all that well under scrutiny: Bush, after all, engaged in plenty of pointless diplomacy with Iran and North Korea, and Obama has fallen far short of delivering on his campaign promises regarding Iraq and detainee policy.

But let�s entertain Weisberg�s argument that Obama�s indifference to democracy and insouciance in the face of Iranian brutality are the product of a reflexive anti-Bushism. Isn�t this a much more damning indictment than Weisberg realizes?

After all, Bush is supposed to have been the worst president in history, and a moron to boot. (It was Weisberg who invented the �Bushism of the Day,� though he has largely left the field to others since the Democrats came to town and started saying silly things.) By contrast, a year ago Weisberg was worrying �that Obama may be too handsome, brilliant, and cool to be elected.�

Handsome and cool the president may be, but how brilliant is it to forgo thinking for oneself and instead simply follow the lead, albeit in reverse, of a man who (it is claimed) is manifestly inferior? Unthinking opposition to the president was far too common on the left during Bush�s term, and it is far too common on the right today. But it is easier to excuse unthinking opposition from the opposition than from men who are called upon to lead.

It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the Democrats did to America.
Mark MellinUbiquitous

In article , Ubiquitous wrote:

Um, whose column, yours? And why is your apostrophe key broken?

HIstorically, it is more correctly borrowed from the pilot episode, the _Seinfeld Chronicles_, in which George opines:

"Yeah right, in these matters you never do what your instincts tell you. Always, ALWAYS do the opposite."

Here's a quote from the same article by Jacob Weisberg, from <http://www.slate.com/id/2224026/>:

"Obama's major difficulties predictably derive from reacting too strongly against the Clinton model. Where Clinton went wrong by being too controlling, Obama has given up to much control. Leaving the specifics to Congress has led to a classic sausage-making festival."

Does anybody know the name of the song that was playing during the sausage-marking festival?

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA
TheNewsGuy(Mike)Mark Mellin

Can I answer? Or should I wait until tomorrow? ;-)

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Mark MellinTheNewsGuy(Mike)

In article , "thenewsguy(Mike)" wrote:

That's soon enough for me!

It's interesting that while political correctness is often examined in Seinfeld (e.g. _The Cigar Store Indian_), there are few real topical political references (e.g. George H.W. Bush or Clinton being in office, etc.), though Mayor Rudy Giuliani would prove to be the exception. Now baseball topics, on the other hand, ...

from <http://seinfeld.xtreemhost.com/Scripts/TheAbstinence.html> % George and Yankees Derek Jeter and Bernie Williams are at the ballpark.

George: Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant. (Hits a home run) It's not complicated.

Jeter: Now who are you again?

George: George Costanza, assistant to the traveling secretary.

Williams: Are you the guy who put us in that Ramada in Milwaukee?

George: Do you wanna talk about hotels, or do you wanna win some ball games?

Jeter: We won the World Series.

George: In six games.

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA
TheNewsGuy(Mike)Mark Mellin

"Manana" was the sausage music, I believe.

I think the best Baseball reference was on The Subway - the conversation with "naked guy". ==================================================================== FG: They still have no pitching. Goodin's a question mahk. ...You don't recover from those rotator cuffs so fast.

JS: I'm not worried about their best pitching. They got pitching. ...They got no hitting.

FG: No hitting? They got hitting! Bonilla, Murry. ...They got no defence.

JS: Defence? Please. ...They need speed.

FG: Speed? They got Coleman. ...They need a bullpen.

JS: Franco's no good? ...They got no team leaders.

FG: They got Franco! ...What they need is a front office.

JS: But you gotta like their chances.

FG: I LUV their chances.

JS: Tell you what. If they win the penant I'll sit naked with you at the World Series.

FG: It's a deal!

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Mark MellinTheNewsGuy(Mike)

In article , "thenewsguy(Mike)" wrote:

Manana, I'm doing nada.

("soon enough for me" completes the chorus lyric)

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA
TheNewsGuy(Mike)Mark Mellin

Very good. Sorry, I missed that.

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Mark MellinTheNewsGuy(Mike)

In article , "thenewsguy(Mike)" wrote:

It's not as if you've ever heard the lyrics on Seinfeld! :-)

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA