Puerto Rican Day

Sorry for being a year too late but over here in the UK, we have just seen the Puerto Rican day episode for the first time. l have to say that I'm amazed that anybody found Kramer's flag burning antics to be objectionable. It was clearly shown how he came to set fire to the flag. Oh well, only two weeks to the anti-climax of the finale and then it's all down to chasing re-runs on various satellite channels and the unreliable scheduling of the BBC. You guys don't know how lucky you are with syndication.

RSoden4363 wrote:

We can't believe it either. The episode would have played the same with any other flag from any other group; it's just that it had to be Puerto Rican Day because that was the only one that would take place at the proper time for the episode.

Keith Davenport wrote in message ...

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Another UK voice says:

So, *how* was that considered offensive to Puerto Ricans, except for the flag burning? Thank god we British aren`t racist... Except the French..... and Germans... and Americans... (oops! <grin>)*

*Please, this is a joke. Trust me....

    I can't answer how the episode was offensive to Puerto Ricans since
I'm not from there, but I can tell you what offended me... Elaine
kissing the guy under the bleachers... C'mon!
                                                    Jeremy

Jeremy Kelley wrote:

Do you mean you are not from New York City - that is where the complaint came from - I am sure the people in Puerto Rico itself could care less.

This was just a power struggle from terrorist-type tactic racist groups. In order to get publicity and confirmation of their existence they take on large and popular targets. So they took on NBC and the #1 sit-com, Seinfeld, and won (in their eyes). The best thing NBC and Seinfeld did was say - fine we won't show it again. End of discussion, no more publicity. So it never became a real issue with the public except, of course, with us crazies here.

I believe this flag issue was just another way of tv being taken far too seriously, it was a joke, obviously meant to be a joke, and should have been interpreted (remember I'm not the greatest speller) as a joke, but tv viewers have a way of minipulating things to be offensive, remember Jerry Farwell and The Teletubies...Oh and if you ask me the most offensive thing in that episode was how George fell a victim to the laser pen...

Jeremy:

I'm not from there, but I can tell you what offended me... Elaine kissing the guy under the bleachers... C'mon! Jeremy>

What bugged me was the anti-realtorite aspect. This was very offensive to those of us who love realtors.

(Actually, this might be the one group NO ONE would protest on behalf of.)

The Puerto Rican Day Parade episode aired here in Winnipeg (Canada) last night on a local station (along with The Maid). The flag burning scene was still included. So the episode does exist in syndication, but it might not be rerun in the US.

M i c h a e l

Maybe the flag issue was just a hook for a long-developing resentment having to do with the armoire thief, the pool guy ...

ML

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Mark L. Levinson wrote in article ...

I agree. It was an accident and they make Kramer look bad, not Puerto Ricans. A leader (probably self-appointed) of the Puerto Rican community said he did not see the ep even though he was bitching about it. Seinfeld was on NBC in the U.S. NBC has a live morning show called "Today". They go outside and talk to fans of the show who hang out outside the studio. A protest about the PR ep was threatened so the show did not go outside to talk to the fans. There is a rumor the PR ep won't be shown in syndication in the U.S. but I have heard it was sold into syndication. It is normal to cut a minute out of a syndicated ep to make room for more commercials. I wonder if the flag burning is the part they will cut.

BTW what part of the UK are you from? What exactly is the UK? Is it only England? I am from Detroit, Michigan which is located in the Midwest part of the country. We are across the Detroit River from Windsor, Ontario, Canada. I had an English class in business school that was taught by a Brit. He was our English teacher!

Paul Valenti

The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain consists of England, Scotland, Wales, and all the lesser islands... I can't believe they don't teach you this shit

Alan

Sein999999 wrote in message

Alan Boon wrote in message ...

Great

islands...

Don`t forget the confusion caused by referring to Scottish people as English, and so forth... even the UK journo`s fail on this point occasionally.

Okay, I am going to attempt to sum it it, but PLEASE correct me if I am wrong.

Great Britian (GB) consists of England, Scotland and Wales (They're all on one big island). The United Kingdom includes GB and Northern Ireland. The UK is ruled by Westminster in London. So if we think of the country, it's really Great Britian. I suppose Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are roughly equivalent to states in America. I say Roughly, because Northern Irelands future remains in Question (will it remain part of the UK, will it become autonomous, or will it be brought back together with Ireland to unify the island). And I remember reading a few summers ago that Scotland did gain some more power independantly from London.

Scotland and Wales did gain some independence from London when they were allowed to have their own assemblies, which they're voting for this summer. The Scottish one is a little more autonomous, having some tax-raising powers, but the Welsh one is just to decide what to do with their backwards little country.

Northern Ireland is still a part of the UK and will remain so for a long time - it's position is like Quebec, I guess, in that half the population want it to stay and half want it to go.

Pretty far off topic, but worth sorting out :)

Alan

You have to excuse me. I went to american schools. England, Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland,Ulster, Southern Ireland?, UK, Great Britain, Wales. It is confusing to me.

Paul Valenti

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Yes, you'll have to excuse him. I went to American schools too, but I know what the UK is.

In America, people can find something objectionable about anything <sigh>.

Jaclyn

Jaclyn Mussehl threw this on the table:

<<In America, people can find something objectionable about anything <sigh>. Jaclyn>>

As a proud American, I find that statement highly objectionable. Perhaps I'll sue.

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How is this different than in any other country?

Friend wrote:

In other countries people find anything American, objectionable. :-)

I can't believe that you were able to see it! In the states, NBC did not show it as a rerun (like they did all the other episodes), and I doubt we'll ever see it in syndication....glad I've got it on tape from the original airing, though.

Jaclyn Mussehl wrote in message ...

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