Final Seinfeld

The final Seinfeld just aired here in Australia so I know I'm going over old ground for those of you who already saw it months ago but who gives a shit.

In my humble opinion it was good. It was by no means the funniest show made but I still enjoyed it. For me, the best part of the 2 hour special was the 2 or 3 minutes during the first hour of "flashbacks" they allocated to the outtakes. I could have quite happily watched 2 hours of that instead. Very funny. Cheers,

David.

i personally thought the final episode could have been better. i expected alot more from them. i also feel that this is not the end for them, they left it to open for a finale. how do you feel about it?

I personally thought the last episode was not written well at all! that bit with Kramer having water in his ear -> what gives? george cheating in the contest

not to mention george turning into a great big asshole! usually he is just an asshole

Elaine and Jerry -> never

If I had of wrote it i would have had Elaine go sit on the park bench and then ask Puddy to marry her -> Puddy would have said Sure Babe

but they would fight all the episode

I would have had more Micky

Bring back Debra Messing bald

George get a new job as head of yankee's not that i hate his Kruger job cause it was one of his best ever -> K uger sounds like an old car horn -> K uger!!

not to mention KOKO -> that was funny

what about the hello chick?? she was one of Jerry's hottest

Larry David wrote a totaly useless script that reminded me of the 1st two seasons

the episode was so far from the writing style of the last 3 seasons it is not funny!!

And to put them in jail -> whatever

David might as well had Jerry wake up and have a shower then Pam Uewing could have stepped in and said good morning!!

LONG LIVE KOKO!!!!

Bunda

you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but ..."Jerry and Elaine> never" is a bit of revisionist history. Part of the premise of the show is the fact that they used to date. So, I think for the sake of accuracy, one wold say, "Jerry and Elaine> not again."

"Larry David wrote a totally useless script"? As oppsed to a USEFUL script, I suppose.

The goof 1 wrote:

We all expected A LOT more of the finale. The courtroom idea was a single joke played out A LOT too long. There was very little plot revolving around our favourite four and the dialogue was far too simple as compared to their earlier episodes and all the clever repartee between the characters. Yes, we expected, and deserved, a lot more.

Couldn't agree with you more! Many have said that the hype built up our expectations. But memories of the outstanding writing and acting of the previous eight years and --a-- half of this classic comedy, were why we had expected a better finale. The finale took the show in the wrong direction, overplayed the courtroom scenes, gave very little for our favorite characters to do but sit by passively, and the script showed little wit or humor. I understand it will be rerun next week here in the states. Too bad they couldn't resurrect the Puerto Rican Day episode to replace it--would love to see THAT episode again! Ay Carumba! alt showbiz gossip

it is about time people agree with what me and a lot of other people I know think

there are too many people in this newsgroup who seem to think it was a brilliant script! Brilliant, yah like a Van Damne movie.

I stated many of the problems it had, and how Larry David tryed to reuse old jokes that did not work.

I do like how he brought back Babu.

But nothin else in the episode was any good.

I also agree the Puerto Rican episode was brilliant

PennyPacker, Vandelay, and the character Jerry was, sorry can't remember right now.

Black Saab rules.

Very funny stuff!

Bunda

KOKO!!!!

On 1 Sep 1998, The goof 1 wrote:

the clip-show, my new all-time favorite episode. But there will be no sequel. Possibly a reunion movie in the distant future, but nothing more. Think about it. These people won't be as funny once they've spent a year in prison. They will all be unemployed, Jerry probably won't have his apartment anymore (why keep paying rent if you're living in prison?) They would basically all have to start completely new lives. Jerry would probably go into advertising, or work for Bloomingdale's or something. Once a celebrity spends time in prison, his fame tends to be more or less washed up. (Do I hear the cast of Different Strokes anyone?) Yes, it was somewhat open-ended, but at the same time it wasn't. Cheers was open-ended too, and nobody is waiting for new episodes of that show to come out anytime soon. I think Jerry was pretty certain we have seen the last of all of those characters, except in the wonderful world of syndication.

"Early to rise, early to bed makes a man healthy but socially dead." ---Yakko Warner

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Two words: Mike Tyson. Anyway, they'd be out on bail until the appeal would be heard, which they'd almost certainly win.

I'll admit to having somewhat of a sick mind, but I think the characers should have been killed off in the end. That way you have absolute closure. Also, its a Seinfeld tradition to make fun of death and to find warped humor in someone's untimely demise----Susan for example. It would also have followed in the Seinfeld tradition of doing things that no other sitcom dared to do. There are many ways you could do this.

Examples:

1. Have the finale turn out just like it did, except they get aquitted. As they are leaving the courtroom, victorious and gloating, they are gunned down by one or more disgruntled enemies (wasn't George's former father in law seen buying a gun?)

2. Have a similar court/trial finale, except that the gang is accidently accused of a capital crime and sentanced to death (weren't there several death penalty/execution jokes throughout the series?). Maybe there could be a lot of circumstancial evidence that makes them look like murderers (Kenny Bania and/or Newman are murdered, etc.) and the people from their past come to testify against them and the jury decides that they are such horrible people they must have done it.

3. On of the gang committs suicide (or dies from disease, accident or murder) and this trigger the suicide of the rest because they have become an organic hive-like unit and have lost all capacity to survive as separate individuals.

Some kind of "everyone dies" scenario would be a perfect ending for the most misanthropic, cynical and daring of all TV shows. Sort of a comedic Hamlet. Also, it would have saved these fascinating characters from a fate worse than death--the spin-off series! (Archie Bunker's Place, anyone? )

I'll take Archie Bunker's Place over After-M*A*S*H any day.

True. My point was, however, that it was vastly inferior to the original "All in the Family." Any spin-offs of Seinfeld would be even more of a departure from the original radical concept since American culture seems to be entering another "conservative" phase. Norman Lear tried to keep spinoffs of his shows from happening, but was not successful. Hopefully, Jerry has the balls and willpower to say NO (I think he does). Otherwise we may be treated to such travesties as . . . . .

"George: King of Queens"

"The Weekly Adventures of Kramer & Pals"

"Elaine: Corporate Raider"

"Frank and Estelle: Till Death Do Us Part"

"Going Postal With Newman"

all written by shallow young hacks with degrees in Media Studies.

One series you didn't mention was the anomaly called Frasier. That show retained the great writing staff from Cheers and another classic tv show was spawned. A spinoff isn't necessarily tantamount to failure I still say any one of the main characters, even occasional cast members, like the Costanza parents or even Puddy, could bring another winner to NBC if many of the Seinfeld writers were retained. But I really don't see it happening due mainly to the possible adverse affect it might have on the syndicated series, and Jerry personally not wanting it to happen. alt showbiz gossip

Speaking of Cheers, that's a series that hasn't aged well, IMO. When I occasionally see reruns (they're not on regularly in my area), they don't seem nearly as funny as they did originally. As for Frazier, I don't hate it, but it just doesn't appeal to me for some reason.

Mike