are you looking for a complete collection of Seinfeld?

Feb 24, 2001, 10:01 AM ET12 posts by 7 postersalt.tv.seinfeld
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Thread discusses a seller offering complete Seinfeld collections on CD-ROM, with mixed reactions about reliability and safety of purchasing from them.

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Then I might have something to offer you. Please read on.

Have you been looking for the entire collection of Seinfeld? Are you tired of trying to put one together yourself? After the syndication cuts and banners and things floating across the screen. Is it all less then stellar to complete your collection? We'll I have an offer that all thought is obviously not for everybody, it will appeal to many. Do you NOT have access to Seinfeld 3 times a day/ seven days a week? Would you like to see what you are missing?

I am offering the complete Seinfeld collection on 24 Computer CD-r.

These are not just recorded from TV. These are from a studio set given out at the last show to the cast and crew for a job well done. Only thirty sets were made. The sets consisted of 60 SP recorded tapes. These sets are derived from easier to afford Cd Rom collection on 24 discs. These Cd ROMs are a good value for anyone. The only drawback of them is that you cannot watch them on a TV for it is limited to your computer screen. Still very comparable as the pluses far outweigh the one drawback.

The CD-ROM versions are recorded on disc using real media compression version 8. After weighing all the options for compressions. This format stood out as the best. IT has taken me 5 months to make these digital copies (most of the time was devoted to research and technique). I intended to only make them for my own personal use however, I saw that a lot of fans especially overseas wanted copies of Seinfeld as it is not broadcast in their country. As you may know the format of television is different in other countries. Pal in Europe. Seacam in Asia. NTSC in North America. I guess you could consider this version the universal copy for anyone with a computer and a cd rom. Also this version is not subject to signal degradation like VHS tape is. Until they are all released on DVD one day this might be it. Like I mentioned, this was originally made just for me however cost and time were greater then I thought and I considered sharing a limited number with other fans. The entire set which includes every episode from the very first Seinfeld pilot broadcasted in 89 to the grand finale in 98. All were painstakingly recorded on the computer using a video capture card from ATI. Each episode is around 23 minutes long and each file would consume 800 megabytes of space. Then compressed down (recorded on the highest setting) to a tenth of the size. Each episode took two hours to compress so this computer has been (and still is) on for weeks at a time compressing.

Before you dismiss the quality of these, you really must see them. Please go to www.zoopc.com/clip1.rm 2.5 megs www.zoopc.com/clip2.rm 3.5 megs

You will need the latest version of real media player at www.real.com. I can also send a self-contained example on a cd which will be directly from the version. This will be the real media player ver 8 and 7 or 8 full-length episodes to help you decide. Please view the clips first however to limit the amount of demo cds needed to be sent.

The cost of the CD-rom set which takes around three hours to reproduce on 24 cd-roms and packaged in Tyvek Sleeves for shipment for your collection will cost $100. That will include shipping also. They are numbered and the label designs are contained on the last disc in case you have the means to print them out. Also contained on the last disc are the two bloopers reels and the oz sketch from saturday night live and the stand up cd in mp3 format of jerry seinfeld. finally are most of the scripts and some pictures and misc stuff. This collection is a great addition for anyone really into Seinfeld. Some have bought the sets for laptops so they can view thier favorite show anytime

If you decide that you would like an example , please send me a confirmation and I will contact you further. IF however you decide right now that is something that just does not interest you then I thank you for your time and patience in reading this advertisement.

p.s. Please contact me if you are inquiring about the VHS version. These are difficult to make and expensive so not many people would be interested so I don't waste the space on them. The tapes are done on a limited basis and the cost is $200. They are recorded on 12 EP tapes. not very many will be made as they are starting to degrade my copy They are second-generation tapes

has anybody bought either the cd-rom set or the vhs set from [email]? is he reliable, or is this a scam? Anybody who has sucessfully purchased a set please post and let the rest of us know.

Nope, not a scam. Several regulars in this newsgroup have purchased sets from him.

John Twernbold jtwernbold (at) yahoo.com
RRJohn Twernboldalt.tv.seinfeld

I inquired to purchase seinfeld episodes from this person at: [email], however, he/she was to adamant on me sending my money first. There's no way that I'll send my money first to any individual over the internet, especially $100.00. So I declined and found someone who was willing to send me 70 episodes first on CD-R, in divX format. I'm happy with the avenue I chose. Be careful who you deal with, especially the people who are so adamant with receiving the money first. If you shop around, I'm sure you'll find someone who will work on your terms. After all, it's your money!

RR at: [email]

"John Twernbold" wrote in message news:UCgm6.13992$[email]...

SeinfeldonvhsRRalt.tv.seinfeld

Well let me clear up one thing right now. yes, I am adamant about receiveing the money first becuase I don't amke them until there is a demand for a set. second everyplace you have dealt with on the internet (at least 99%) secures payment (credit card or the such ) before they ship.

third, has anybody ho has dealt with me been ripped off. have I not tried to uphold the merchent agreement in the highest regard to the customer. I have a reputatation to uphold becuase if I rip someone off, then I don't do business anymore.

and finally how do I know you will send the money once I mail the product. I don't do COD. I am not KTEL or RONCO from the 70's. Why do you think they don't do it anymore.

now, just as everybody I talk to has there opinion and choice. I also do as well. I do business a certain way and I choose not to make an exception to anyone. that in itself is fair and honest. below is the excert of the mail between roy and myself.

as you discovered, if I did not fill your need, then someone else will. even though I must say they only half delivered and probebly what you got was what was availible for free from the site advertised by another member. I say you get what you pay for. I stand by my decisions and principles as I can also respect you for doing the same.

the only collateral I have is reputation and I must defend it. I am not saying your business practice is wrong nor is mine. I just felt I should respond to it. everybody should see both sides of the tale.

Don

I appreciate your response. However I am reluctant to send $100 to someone I never met over the internet. I am very interested in obtaining the seinfeld episodes, and I probably would pay $100 to obtain them all, however as stated above, I would not feel comfortable in doing business that way. I'm sure you'll find someone who will though, I've already had numerous people e-mailing me asking if I found a seller because their interested also. Good luck with your sells and your employment situation. RR

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 02:34:23 GMT, "RR" wrote:

ByronSeinfeldonvhsalt.tv.seinfeld

Ever consider using Paypal? It adds a bit of credibility and protection Not that I'm implying you don't have credibility. :)

BJB

The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him. -Robert Benchley
SeinfeldonvhsByronalt.tv.seinfeld

Oh I use almost exclusively but it is surprising of the amount of people who are either terrified of using paypal or just don't take it into account

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:55:20 GMT, Byron wrote:

RRSeinfeldonvhsalt.tv.seinfeld

Don,

Please do not feel the need to defend yourself. In my comment to the other person asking if anyone dealt with you before, I did not attack your credibility. I simply stated an opinion. I simply stated to be careful who you deal with over the internet, especially when they ask the buyer to send their money first.

Now if you were affiliated with say, amazon.com, or some other reputable merchant, I wouldn't be so hesitant in sending my money first. However though, you are not! You are simply someone who frequents this newsgroup and is trying to sell a collection of videotape seinfeld episodes. How are we the buyer, suppose to know what we are getting, and if we are getting it? Just because you say you'll send something, are we suppose to be at your mercy?

As a buyer, I use caution when it comes to sending $100 to someone I never met before. For that matter, anyone can make a false alias and defend your credibility in this newsgroup. Not saying your doing it, but just stating it can be done. You also say people get what they pay for. True, and anyone can duplicate vhs seinfelds on tv, all they need is a vcr, so please do not act like you have some magical DVD quality seinfeld episodes on tape.

My opinion is, if people want to be foolish enough to send you their money first, so be it. I'm not trying to hurt your side job here, as you stated you are getting laid off soon from work, I am also. All of your reasons that you stated for being adamant with receiving the money first, you ought take into consideration how the buyer feels. If the buyer is smart, they will find out they do not need to settle for anyone, or anyone's terms. It's their money, so it should be their terms.

I found someone who sent me numerous seinfeld episodes first, before payment, and I am happy with the avenue I chose. Good luck with your side job Don!

RR at: [email]

"Seinfeldonvhs" wrote in message news:[email]...

sets

I just ordered this set last week and I am very pleased. 2c disks delivered in just 4 days. The quality is good but not great...see the clips... You can use paypal...and he will not let you down. Believe me, I was concerned when I just shot off $100 to someone I didn't know but it worked out just fine. This is not a scam.

"Seinfeldonvhs" wrote in message news:[email]...

Then I might have something to offer you. Please read on.

Have you been looking for the entire collection of Seinfeld? Are you tired of trying to put one together yourself? After the syndication cuts and banners and things floating across the screen. Is it all less then stellar to complete your collection? We'll I have an offer that all thought is obviously not for everybody, it will appeal to many. Do you NOT have access to Seinfeld 3 times a day/ seven days a week? Would you like to see what you are missing?

I am offering the complete Seinfeld collection on 24 Computer CD-r.

These are not just recorded from TV. These are from a studio set given out at the last show to the cast and crew for a job well done. Only thirty sets were made. The sets consisted of 60 SP recorded tapes. These sets are derived from easier to afford Cd Rom collection on 24 discs. These Cd ROMs are a good value for anyone. The only drawback of them is that you cannot watch them on a TV for it is limited to your computer screen. Still very comparable as the pluses far outweigh the one drawback.

The CD-ROM versions are recorded on disc using real media compression version 8. After weighing all the options for compressions. This format stood out as the best. IT has taken me 5 months to make these digital copies (most of the time was devoted to research and technique). I intended to only make them for my own personal use however, I saw that a lot of fans especially overseas wanted copies of Seinfeld as it is not broadcast in their country. As you may know the format of television is different in other countries. Pal in Europe. Seacam in Asia. NTSC in North America. I guess you could consider this version the universal copy for anyone with a computer and a cd rom. Also this version is not subject to signal degradation like VHS tape is. Until they are all released on DVD one day this might be it. Like I mentioned, this was originally made just for me however cost and time were greater then I thought and I considered sharing a limited number with other fans. The entire set which includes every episode from the very first Seinfeld pilot broadcasted in 89 to the grand finale in 98. All were painstakingly recorded on the computer using a video capture card from ATI. Each episode is around 23 minutes long and each file would consume 800 megabytes of space. Then compressed down (recorded on the highest setting) to a tenth of the size. Each episode took two hours to compress so this computer has been (and still is) on for weeks at a time compressing.

Before you dismiss the quality of these, you really must see them. Please go to www.zoopc.com/clip1.rm 2.5 megs www.zoopc.com/clip2.rm 3.5 megs

You will need the latest version of real media player at www.real.com. I can also send a self-contained example on a cd which will be directly from the version. This will be the real media player ver 8 and 7 or 8 full-length episodes to help you decide. Please view the clips first however to limit the amount of demo cds needed to be sent.

The cost of the CD-rom set which takes around three hours to reproduce on 24 cd-roms and packaged in Tyvek Sleeves for shipment for your collection will cost $100. That will include shipping also. They are numbered and the label designs are contained on the last disc in case you have the means to print them out. Also contained on the last disc are the two bloopers reels and the oz sketch from saturday night live and the stand up cd in mp3 format of jerry seinfeld. finally are most of the scripts and some pictures and misc stuff. This collection is a great addition for anyone really into Seinfeld. Some have bought the sets for laptops so they can view thier favorite show anytime

If you decide that you would like an example , please send me a confirmation and I will contact you further. IF however you decide right now that is something that just does not interest you then I thank you for your time and patience in reading this advertisement.

p.s. Please contact me if you are inquiring about the VHS version. These are difficult to make and expensive so not many people would be interested so I don't waste the space on them. The tapes are done on a limited basis and the cost is $200. They are recorded on 12 EP tapes. not very many will be made as they are starting to degrade my copy They are second-generation tapes

Then I might have something to offer you. Please read on.

Have you been looking for the entire collection of Seinfeld? Are you tired of trying to put one together yourself? After the syndication cuts and banners and things floating across the screen. Is it all less then stellar to complete your collection? We'll I have an offer that all thought is obviously not for everybody, it will appeal to many. Do you NOT have access to Seinfeld 3 times a day/ seven days a week? Would you like to see what you are missing?

I am offering the complete Seinfeld collection on 24 Computer CD-r.

These are not just recorded from TV. These are from a studio set given out at the last show to the cast and crew for a job well done. Only thirty sets were made. The sets consisted of 60 SP recorded tapes. These sets are derived from easier to afford Cd Rom collection on 24 discs. These Cd ROMs are a good value for anyone. The only drawback of them is that you cannot watch them on a TV for it is limited to your computer screen. Still very comparable as the pluses far outweigh the one drawback.

The CD-ROM versions are recorded on disc using real media compression version 8. After weighing all the options for compressions. This format stood out as the best. IT has taken me 5 months to make these digital copies (most of the time was devoted to research and technique). I intended to only make them for my own personal use however, I saw that a lot of fans especially overseas wanted copies of Seinfeld as it is not broadcast in their country. As you may know the format of television is different in other countries. Pal in Europe. Seacam in Asia. NTSC in North America. I guess you could consider this version the universal copy for anyone with a computer and a cd rom. Also this version is not subject to signal degradation like VHS tape is. Until they are all released on DVD one day this might be it. Like I mentioned, this was originally made just for me however cost and time were greater then I thought and I considered sharing a limited number with other fans. The entire set which includes every episode from the very first Seinfeld pilot broadcasted in 89 to the grand finale in 98. All were painstakingly recorded on the computer using a video capture card from ATI. Each episode is around 23 minutes long and each file would consume 800 megabytes of space. Then compressed down (recorded on the highest setting) to a tenth of the size. Each episode took two hours to compress so this computer has been (and still is) on for weeks at a time compressing.

Before you dismiss the quality of these, you really must see them. Please go to www.zoopc.com/clip1.rm 2.5 megs www.zoopc.com/clip2.rm 3.5 megs

You will need the latest version of real media player at www.real.com. I can also send a self-contained example on a cd which will be directly from the version. This will be the real media player ver 8 and 7 or 8 full-length episodes to help you decide. Please view the clips first however to limit the amount of demo cds needed to be sent.

The cost of the CD-rom set which takes around three hours to reproduce on 24 cd-roms and packaged in Tyvek Sleeves for shipment for your collection will cost $100. That will include shipping also. They are numbered and the label designs are contained on the last disc in case you have the means to print them out. Also contained on the last disc are the two bloopers reels and the oz sketch from saturday night live and the stand up cd in mp3 format of jerry seinfeld. finally are most of the scripts and some pictures and misc stuff. This collection is a great addition for anyone really into Seinfeld. Some have bought the sets for laptops so they can view thier favorite show anytime

If you decide that you would like an example , please send me a confirmation and I will contact you further. IF however you decide right now that is something that just does not interest you then I thank you for your time and patience in reading this advertisement.

p.s. Please contact me if you are inquiring about the VHS version. These are difficult to make and expensive so not many people would be interested so I don't waste the space on them. The tapes are done on a limited basis and the cost is $200. They are recorded on 12 EP tapes. not very many will be made as they are starting to degrade my copy They are second-generation tapes. I have one set ready t ship and will probebly only make one or two more sets for a while as I will need the tapes for the next project coming soon