Thread debates why George didn't break up with Susan before her death, with posters attributing it to fear of her and George's typical avoidance of confrontation.
One thing I could not never understand is why George did not dump Susan. Before Susan died, George was always crying about his upcoming marriage to her. Why did he not just break off with her? He's done it many times with other girls, so why not Susan? It's not as if she had something on him. For me, this made his relationship with Susan, more or less, unamusing. So, why?
Could it also be that she was quite wealthy? or at least her parents were/are. George probably thought he would not have to work and was therefore financially safe and stable? just a thought... Tony
Also, he couldn't come up with a graceful way to do it, because he'd been in the engagement for so long. Plus, he knew that once he was out, he'd want back in again. It was a very complicated position.
I alway thought that it was because it would have just been too much effort. If George had been a force he would have been inertia. If he was a sin he would have been sloth.
But he never mentioned this reason. Think about it people, if it's not in the script, it's not in the snow. If that were the reason, he would have said it. I don't think there really was a reason besides "We had a pact!!!" and maybe he didn't want to hurt Susan.
I think the reason is because George has no courage when it comes to women. He could neve break off a relationship with a woman like Susan who seemed to have a stronger hold over the relationship then he did.
Alright this has gone on long enough. Jerry says to George "why don't you just end it?" Geroge replies "do you know what kind of scene that would be? I'd rather be unhappy for the rest of my life than to go through that scene." That's why he didn't just dump her. "She's 5'3", like a hundred pounds and I'm frightened to death of her".
Believe it or not, the characters in the show do things that *aren't* televised, ya know. Just cuz they don't show it, doesn't mean that it never happens.
Again, sez who?
Look at the phrases being used in this discussion. You said, "don't think", and "maybe", the other poster said, "probably thought". Both of these things are SPECULATION because (as I said above) not everything that happens to the characters is televised or otherwise shown to us. By YOUR OWN ARGUMENT, any answer of yours prefaced by "I don't think" is absolutely wrong, since it was not explicitly stated in the show that this was the only reason.
I can just hear you arguing:
"I don't think that Newman has a first name."
"But he never mentioned a first name.
"Think about it people, if it's not in the script,
it's not in the s(h)ow".
Jeff Shirton [email]
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"He didn't sound like a baseball player. He said things like
'Nevertheless', and 'if, in fact.' " -- Dan Quisenberry on Ted Simmons
You know exactly what I meant. If it's not *mentioned* or *easily assumed*, then it's not part of the show. You can't just say "Well I bet Newman's first name is Fred, or assume that George didn't dump Susan because he wanted her money. They left these things out. It was never said or made assumable.
("snow"?!)
You made two references to my typographical error. I am terribly fucking sorry that I'm not quite as perfect as you. And sorry to everyone else if they didn't understand that "snow" meant "show". I mean, look at everyone else's posts. I don't see you correcting every little mistake. I bet you won't find many in my messages (and please don't try to prove me wrong, or else you're just being annoying).
I thought that the full extent of her wealth only became known to George after her death. I seem to recall George speaking to her father, with the father saying something like "she had a doll collection worth over a million dollars", with George apparently surprised at this information.
You are right, he didn't know she was rich until she died.
My question is: in an earlier episode Susan (with short hair) is a lesbian after having broken up with him. In which episode did she turn straight again and go back to him? Did he just propose to her after not dating her for a long time and she decided it was fine and she wasn't a lesbian anymore?
Susan didn't appear again until the episode in which George proposed to her. Jerry said "I thought she was a lesbian", and George replied, "Ehhh, it didn't take." (LOL)
One thing I never understood is why George did not dump Susan. Before Susan died, George was always complaining about his upcoming marriage to her. Why did he not just break up with her? It's not as if he had never before broken up with anyone. Also, Susan did not have anything on him to force George to marry her. So, why did he not break up with her? For me, this made George's relationship with Susan more or less unamusing. Any ideas?
They had the episode with George coming to Susan and pretended he started smoking... and then the best moment was when George asked her for a prenup and Susan just starts laughing and tells Georgie boy about how she makes a lot more than he does...
Yes, George did this things but what he was looking for in that instance was to break off the engagement. The question was Why didn't George break up the relatinship with Susan? in the 1st place since he was always complaining about her William Batista-Lopez
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:17:38 -0400, Mike Colucci wrote:
If you're arguing with my response, then I apparently *DON'T* "know exactly what [you] meant."
Although I do know that you are an incredible *HYPOCRITE* for claiming (without knowing) that I knew what you meant, and at the same time arrogantly demanding that others can make no claims about the show other than what was explicitly stated.
Hypocrite.
Once again, SEZ WHO?!
Who died and made *you* God?
And why *can't* we?! Where is the law against assumption, against speculation?
No kidding. What's your point?
By definition, "assumption" is making a reference to something not explicitly stated. Otherwise it wouldn't be an "assumption". And there's no such thing as "making assumable", as there is no force that prohibits assumptions from being made.
Uh, no. That was the one and only reference. Maybe you're hallucinating or something. Or perhaps incredible paranoid or have a persecution complex.
Please don't make the claim that I'm perfect. I'm only a human, and therefore one who doesn't get bent out of shape when I make a mistake.
No, since I don't respond to every post. I didn't respond to your post to correct your spelling, but rather to correct your rude little command prohibiting others from making assumptions and speculations.
It's our right as viewers and fans to do so.
Jeff Shirton [email]
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"He didn't sound like a baseball player. He said things like
'Nevertheless', and 'if, in fact.' " -- Dan Quisenberry on Ted Simmons