I found a flaw

Feb 1, 199616 posts by 15 postersalt.tv.seinfeld
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In one episode, Jerry has an extra ticket to a Giants game and can't find anyone to go with. "Why don't you ask Kramer?" "No, Kramer only likes Canadian football."

Then, in another episode, Joel Rifken says "Hey Jerry, I have an extra ticket to the Giants game" and Kramer bolts through the door, ecstatic, and says "I'll go!" "Okay" "Oh YEAH!"

What gives?

Subject: I found a flaw
From: NEWBOULD    DAVID F. G., [email]
Date: 1 Feb 1996 13:41:26 GMT
In article  NEWBOULD    DAVID F.
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Well, the Joel Rifkin episode was made before the other one....Ithink it was called the Label Maker. Maybe Kramer got fed up with American football and started watching only Canadian football. I don't know. It's only a sitcom. What is Canadian football anyway? The same as American?

Laurie

In article , Charles B. Fishman wrote:

Canadian football is actually pretty cool to watch. They only get three downs, but the offense is allowed to have players already moving at the snap. It is kind of crazy to see all of the receivers going full blast from ten yards back before the snap. I think the field is 120 yards long also. It makes for a really fast paced game.

When I lived in Detroit we used to pick up the local Canadian station and I a saw some of the games. The same would be true in New York.

Sorry to get so far off the point of this group.

In article , [email] (Edward Wrenbeck) wrote:

Laurie

Interesting point. I don't have an answer for you but I would bet there is a joke tied in there somewhere. Thats what I love about this show everything is tied in togeather. Miss an episode and your out of the loop at some point in the future. Its genious.

Travis Schroeder

There has been much speculation as to which characters could leave Seinfeld, and still have a show. Each character has a weight to the show as follows: Jerry: 35% George: 25% Elaine: 25% Kramer: 15%

As long as you have a majority >50% you could still have a quality show or 50% would be about one half as good.

So if just Kramer left, it would still have an 85% q.p. (quality percentage) and still have a majority percentage, and carry the show.

If Elaine or George left, three-quarters as good or 75%.

Strangely enough, if Jerry left, you could still have a show at 65%! (But you'd have to change the name of the show--to The George and Elaine Show, for instance).

Another way to envision this is thinking of them each as chess pieces with Jerry being a rook (equal to about five pawns) George a bishop (3 pawns) Elaine a knight (3 pawns) and Kramer a pawn (but an important center pawn!)

In a chess game, you can lose a pawn and keep playing, depending on the position of the board. You can lose a piece (bishop or knight) but have to play extra well with your other pieces to stay in the game. You could also play without a rook, but not for long before it all falls apart.

I hope this straightens up any questions/confusion about who could leave Seinfeld and how it would affect the show. J. Carlson

You can't divy out percentage statistics to every person in a TV show and say that if they leave the show they will leave it that percent incomplete!! If it was that easy then there wouldn't be so many sorry shows out! And Kramer has to be worth more points than 15 anyway. Is this statistic based on polls, poularity, applause loudness, the writers, or made up by you?

[email] (Toby Carlson) wrote:

No, I don't think it does. You miss one important point, I think. Jerry could not leave the show and still have a show.

Granted, he's not the funniest one on the show. Granted, even though the show's named after him, a show could be re-named and still go on. But what your idea misses is that Jerry is the hub around which all the other characters rotate. I doubt Elaine and George would interact much without Jerry. Kramer and George maybe, but still doubtful. Kramer and Elaine . . . no. George could have his OWN show with that woman he's seeing. Kramer would probably not support his own show, he's more of a side-note. Elaine might be able to have a show . . . but I doubt it.

But the current show could not survive without the "hub". The Seinfeld world revolves around him. Jerry is the Sun of the Seinfeld system. Kramer, Elaine, and George are planets around Jerry. And each of them have several moons, if you will (Newman, "her", J. Peterman, etc.).

OK, I know the analogy is silly . . . but it's cold, and I'm tired!!!

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<George could have a show with that

That woman he's seeing?! Do you watch Seinfeld at all? Have you tuned in to an episode this entire season? That woman he's seeing is Susan Ross, and he's not just seeing her, he's engaged to her. Pitiful. Absolutely pitiful.

"Since the beginning of time, mankind has yearned to destroy the sun and I'll do the next best thing: block it out."

Montgomery Burns

[email] (JCS21212) wrote:

Yes . . . but it seems that George's interest still wanders.

But hell, who wouldn't choose Marisa over that woman he's dating.

Subject: Re: Seinfeld Characters leaving From: "Bart L. Grossman" Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:17:10 GMT Message-ID:

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>The hub is good. Can't last without the hub. LOVE the hub! Hehee...sorry, I couldn't resist.

Just how is it that Jerry is unfunny than the other characters???? The writing for the show is well-planned to make the every scene as funny as the next. the next for each character.

in canadian football both teams get 12 players on the field. endzones are 20 yards deep, and the other team has to return missed field goals or they can be tackled in the endzone for a safty.

that game is crazy

In article , [email] wrote:

Not only that, the field is 110 yards long.

They don't have to return missed F.G.'s or punts into the endzone. They can take a knee but it costs the team a point to do it. There is no safety in that case. Also a missed field goal through the endzone or a punt through the endzone gets the kicking team a point.

And there is no fair catch, but you have to be a full five yards away from the guy catching the punt or kickoff when he touches it. Then he's fair game.

Its just too much fun to watch. No wonder Kramer likes it.

On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:34:10 -0600, [email] (Kurt Sims) wrote:

I guess that means that both Kramer and I have good taste!

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