Review of 1/15/98...Manfur or ManPurse... take yer nasty pick.

Greg Lindberg wrote in message ...

You've never seen it (last weeks episode) but it was better than tonights? Are you stupid. You should think before you post . Since you have "seen worse" how do you know YOU "would of liked last weeks better"?

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:37:33 -0500, "Al Capone" wrote:

I thought he meant the show that takes place in a diner that came on at 7:30?

The show is getting to be like the class clown in sophomore class; hilarious at first, then only mildly amusing (now) and soon to be Annoying (as next year would have been) Jerry made a great move getting out now-great timing is what makes a great comic----

Bull shit man. That Jacket at the end produced at least 2 laughs. "So you're going to be wearing that from now on?" "All signs point to yes!" Then Elaine trying to get out of buying the fur coat. That whole coffee shop scene had some good lines. blah wrote in message ...

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On the contrary, last night's show was a classic! For once since the season's beginning it didn't always seem like the writers were trying too hard. Each character was at its best. I was laughing from beginning to end. I love Elaine and she was hilarious in this episode. Favorite parts: when Kramer dropped his cigar and put it back in his mouths the wrong way plus all his facial expressions. Elaine's reaction when she sees Putty in that coat. the coat. Jerry in that coat. The purse. The part where Newman and Elaine are together. The kind of episode that makes you sad to think that there are only about 10 left...

Julie-Anne

Worst ever?? Hell no. "The Reverse Peephole" is the best of the season and probably one of the best in a long time. I really don't see what those people who didn't like it thought was bad about it. Last nights episode reminded me of some of the older ones and everyone seemed like their normal selves. Ten million times better than The Dealership.

Oh yeah, all those people who didn't like George's role last night, he had the best line in the whole thing. "I LIED TO YOU FOR 3 DAYS, NOW YOU'RE ALL SCREWING ME!" next came Elaine's explanation of how she shouldn't be responsible even though she was (loved George's and Jerry's reactions) and when Newman said "But I am in love with another man's wife!" And Kramer wasn't stuck in a dumb subplot. Overall a great episode. I just hope the final ten get better by the week.

One other thing, I think that NBC deal about there being "ONLY 11 EPISODES LEFT" is a bit accessive. But hey, its working.

On 16 Jan 1998 15:52:39 GMT, "Julie-Anne" wrote:

He's already done that trick with a cigarette. It wasn't nearly as funny this time. Must be all the money is making them lazy.

Or glad, if you happen to have not been born yesterday.

Who's idea is it to introduce new character traits to nine-year old characters like they've been there all along. George talked about this goddamn wallet he has in his pocket like he's been carrying it around since he was in High School. We never saw it before, so why is it being handled like its been here since the pilot? Who are these writers trying to fool? Not us, I hope. If you want a storyline based on a big-fat wallet, introduce it like they did the purse. It is a new thing and it was treated as such. This show is really heading facefirst into a pile of shit. The talent themselves (Jerry, Jason, Julia, Michael) are the only ones who can pick it up and they better start trying soon.

Enough lurking on this NewsGroup... time to speak up... and quick!

We're all saying that Seinfeld's been slipping...

...that George is overacting... ...Elaine's hair is morphing into cataclysmic crappage... ...Puddy has seen his 15 minutes of fame, and should be excised and exorcised...(some exercise wouldn't be so bad either) ...Kramer's acting is more over-the-top than his hair... ...Newman's poundage and moonlighting on 3rd cock from my son is heinous...

and that Jerry couldn't write his way out of a commercial without Larry David.

This is ALL true and then some.

I've been following Georgie boy for 9 seasons now... he's a cheap fuck. He NEVER brings his wallet... all of a sudden he has one with more shit than a cesspool... what up wit dat...

Did ANYONE else notice Jerry's coat and purse was a DIRECT RIPOFF from the episode where Kramer's a MACK DADDY, with the robe, hat, cane and pimpmobile?

DISGRACEFUL...

Your comments are welcome, even if you aren't...

Uncle Stinky!

Hey, dude. it's just a TV show.

Never brings his wallet? Then how about all the times he complained about buying things to break a 50?

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:20:38 -0800, Uncle Stinky wrote:

You're exactly right. You just made me laugh harder than the last two shows did combined!

Well you gotta know that George didn't have much money in that wallet. It was like a "Filing cabinet". And how do we know he never brings his wallet? Just because they never mentioned it before doesn't mean it didn't exist. Just like the thing with Newman. We know he has a first/last name, but we've never been informed on what it is.

I gotta agree with those who think the wallet was outta the blue. I mean, yes, we know Newman has a first (or a last) name. But I am sure George has pulled out his wallet before and it was normal sized. I KNOW I have seen it before.

But it was even sadder seeing them resort to a stupid plot device, a dumb site gag without a satisfying punchline (the one they used was dumb).

And I'm not one of those "Seinfeld's heyday is over" people. I just think the past few episodes have been forced and unfunny. The fact that Putty is still on the show (he must be the Billy Preston of Seinfeld or something) should indicate that they are out of ideas.

-A

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I've only been reading this news group for about a month and everyone seemed to really watch Seinfeld. What is the deal with the wallet though, "cheap George" has been pulling out his wallet for so long, it is really obvious this is a new addition. Why is everyone so confused about this? His wallet has always been very thin!

Although there have been better shows, I will always like every Seinfeld! I don't care who wrote it or which season it aired!

In , "just me" writes:

Not just you. The Seinfeld episode that I do not like has not been taped yet. I doesn't exist yet. Now, all they have to do is give me 10 more winners, and I'll be able to say that forever.

Hah! That's supposed to be funny right? Jerry himself admitted that there has been a few bad episodes...some from this year and some from the early 1990s. You're not being honest if you really think that there's never been a bad episode. And, I know for a fact that you're not being honest, YOU ALREADY TOLD ME by e-mail that you thought some of the early episodes were pretty bad, you're just afraid to admit it.

Also, why do you bother posting your reviews of the new episodes? It's quite obvious that you're going to love every word and scene that is ever shown on Seinfeld no matter what. Here, i'll save you some time....

10th last episode..A classic! 9th last episode...ROFL! Give George an Emmy!!!!!! 8th last episode...An instant classic! LOL!!!! 7th last episode...ROFLMAO!!!....I love you Jerry! 6th last episode...Send this one to the Smithsonian!!!!!! 5th last episode...Better than the last episode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4th last episode...Pretty dumb, but I still LOLed the whole episode! 3rd last episode...Another instant classic! Gotta love the Sein! 2nd last episode...The best episode since "The Blood"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last episode ever....Kill me now and I will die happy man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now here's what everyone else will write about the final 10 episodes

10th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 9th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 8th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 7th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 6th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 5th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 4th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 3th last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? 2nd last episode: WORST ONE EVER???? LAST EPISODE EVER: WORST ONE EVER????

I'm gonna bet the highest bill I have (5 bucks) that at least one of these posts will show up during the final ten Seinfelds.

On 21 Jan 1998 22:39:52 GMT, [email] (KrzyJay45) wrote:

SNIP

SNIP

I don't know which episode it is in number, but last night NBC aired a re-run of the Butter episode, where Kramer cooks himself, and George gets the job at PLAYNOW... I thought that it was great... Goerge deserves an emmy... I almost peed myself.

Granted that there have been a few stinkers over the life of the show, (the backwards episode). I generally like all the shows and enjoy the subtle humor of shows that I notice people saying that they absolutely hate.

Seinfeld has given us all a lot of laughs, and I think that just because it is winding down, we shouldn't dump on it, we should say that Jerry made the correct decision to end the show before it gets absolutely terrible (anyone like the last few episodes of Roseanne). Other shows have to be taken out behind the shed and shot like rabid dogs before they get the clue that the show sucks.

Rob

***But what do I know, I enjoyed The Cable Guy***

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OJz a Liar wrote:

You are a genius. You have learned my secret. ;)

maro

So Jery holds himself to a much higher standard. Is this news to anyone?

Oh really? Is that what I told you? Where did the words 'pretty bad' come from? Right. You made them up. No 'bad' episodes, just episodes where the characters hadn't been developed. Makes a lot of sense for the first half dozen episodes right?

Yeah, you're right. I love the show. So what the hell am I doing in a Seinfeld newsgroup? Are you being dense on purpose? You must be because I've read intelligent posts from you in the past.

Interesting, in as much as I've never used any of these expressions. No wait, I did use 'gotta love the Sein' once.

Alright OJ (and maybe it's about time to change that sorely
outdated e-mail name, huh?  Sheesh.), enough with the vendetta.
Redirect your energy already.
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This made you laugh, and Seinfeld didn't? Yeesh. You go, girl.

Uncle Stinky wrote:

There were similarities. They've been "recycling" old material all season. Yes, it is bothersome.

Justin T.

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OK I'm taking the bait here even though every fiber of my being tells my he really can't be that idiotic to actually believe what he wrote. So let me get this straight...every plot device relating to the main characters (that's only hmmm, let me think, EVERY SINGLE ONE) had to be revealed in the first episodes. Why even bother to have new episodes if we can't have something new pop up. Oh I forget, some people can't deal with a little change. It's called a plot device you idiot.

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Well, to be perfectly honest, they really don't now do they. I mean how many episodes are there left? 11?

What I don't understand is why people who don't like the show anymore continue to watch it. Now that's what I call idiotic.

On 16 Jan 1998 03:41:16 GMT, "James A. Dirmeyer" wrote:

I don't think that adding the fat wallet was that bad, although the writers are really scraping the barrel these days. The problem with it is how he starts getting back pains ON THE SAME SHOW THAT IT'S REVEALED. Dumb.

Isn't it plausible that the wallet finally reached a critical capacity and caused both back pains and exploded? Who says the wallet was huge all the time? It could have accumulated over many years.

(Listen to me, I'm talking about plausibility on a TV show. "I should really just relax")

In article [email] writes:

I think it was ALWAYS big. Proof? In the episode where Jerry and George go to meet w/ the president of NBC at his house (and they get caught looking at cleavage), George says, "Do you want some Pepto-Bismol? I carry it in my wallet."

Well, they aren't really character traits. They're "belongings of a character" George talked about this goddamn wallet

Well, probably because it has been there all along, but this is the first episode that we've been made known about it. Who are these writers trying to fool? Not us, I hope. If

I hope you know they acted normal around it because they've probably known all along about George's wallet. Just 'cuz we didn't know about it doesn't nessessarily mean that it hasn't been there all along.

It is a new thing and it was treated as such. This show is really

trying soon. You better start appreciating the new Seinfeld while they come. Because there's only 10 more left. Here's a hint, try not to be picky about the stupidest things. Pay attention to the real big details, like why Jerry kept saying "Jiggy" throughout the show (j/k)

The bubble boy episode was on in syndication recently. Doesn't George pull out a wallet to pay for something in the coffee shop? And it's not even close to being overstuffed.

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Still, that was 5 years ago.
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Here is some advice- ITS A TELEVISION SHOW!!!!!! DON'T OBSESS ABOUT IT,
ENJOY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"HEEELLLLOOOOO McFly", didn't the back to the future movies air in the 80's, who's obsessed with what? Maybe you should change your identity to BIFF!

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Blah, blah, blah blah.

Okay so he had a wallet since high school. Have you ever thought that maybe it's been accumulating the stuff along the way. Maybe he started collecting stuff since the bubbleboy show.

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Um...I hate to break it to you, but our boy Costanza isn't real. He's one of them TV people.

Just because there's a tiny lapse in continuity, you guys think the entire episode was terrible? Nevermind all the hilarious stuff that went on?

Who says we obsess about it? You know, it's quite possible to enjoy something and STILL THINK ABOUT IT! Amazing, isn't it? You don't have to shut off your brain in order to enjoy something.

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Jerry was saying "Jiggy" because of Will Smith's new rap song. I believe it's titled "Let's Get Jiggy Wit It".

same w/ "turn this mutha out" from P-Funk

In , [email] (Dave) writes:

If the shoe fits...

Hey, if you don't get the jokes, blame the writers for
going over your head.  Or don't bother, because I can't
see them dummying it down for anyone.
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In article , [email] wrote:

You're wrong ratboy. One of the greatest things about Seinfeld was the unique sense of history and consistency, in terms of the storyline. You always felt like you were watching lives progress before your eyes, in a chronological manner. Storylines lasted 10 episodes sometimes.

Now every episode is self-contained, no more growth, no more extended subplots. In addition, they've thrown the last 8 seasons out the window. All of a sudden George has this huge wallet? Give me a break.

On 16 Jan 98 13:53:31 GMT, [email] (Dave) wrote:

Because you're too dumb to notice? (Put a frog in a pot of water and heat it up slowly, it won't notice and it'll die without jumping out.)

So now I'm a stupid frog?  Standard.  When you realize
how wrong you are, there's no recourse but to hurl
personal insults.   Grow up, little Margie.
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Are you serious? These jokes went over our heads? Read a post here and there and see that a Twix lineup is sooo below the intelligent, sophisticated viewer that the show once appealed to. It in no way is above anyone. My four year old brother understood the joke, and he's the one who asked me if George was hungry, why didn't he just eat one of them. Go watch South Park if you think these jokes were sophisticated.

In article , [email] (AbeVigoda1) wrote:

What's really ironic is the whole thing in last season's finale about Banya's comedy being the kind you don't have to think about, silly trite stuff, being the comedy of the future... like shopping cart wheel jokes, is EXACTLY what the current show has become. Silly, lowest common denominator comedy. No subtlety.

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The "candy lineup" wasn't the joke -- it was the fact that George actually went to all this trouble just to prove something so unimportant. His giddiness over what he saw as his brilliant scheme was what made the scene funny (and seeing it blow up in his face a second later). The joke was unspoken.

S wrote:

Even funnier: George thought he'd arranged a "setup" by making all ten candybars in the line up Twixs. His brilliant scheme was doomed from the start-it wouldn't have proven anything!

Jonathan

Jonathan wrote:

But maybe he planned to ask the guy "Which was the one you ate?" and he wouldn't have had a choice but to point to a Twix. But it's a moronic idea even if that was the case, because he bought all those Twix and let THEM go to waste, too. Ultimately, George got nothing. I guess that was the point. He didn't just get himself a new one.

-DK

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Candy line up was the worst ever. The worst ending EVER. This weeks ok episode made me high. I really think the cany bar episode had a chance but fell apart fast. Sure it was not great but after last weeks #1 worst EVER I needed a fix! ok.

Hey, dude. It's just a TV show.

In article , [email] (AbeVigoda1) wrote:

Or else what? The show will be cancelled?

Umm... "Seinfeld" is not a drama. If you ask me, the fact they do this kind of thing all the time (Kramer: baths or showers?) is part of why the show is funny. Not that this episode was all that funny, but I did get a kick out of the big damn wallet, thinking it was all the more amusing that they hadn't ever talked about it before.

God, you just can't please some people. I thought it was one of the best of the season, but you got to have that stupid "Oh, its not as good as the old ones" or "Oh, Larry David didn't write this". Is every show from now to the end going to be called "THE WORST SHOW EVER". What the hell is the matter with you people? And what about the people who actually follow these people, the people who secretly liked the episode but don't want to be left out in the newsgroup. Well, I'M GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TIME TALKING ABOUT SEINFELD next to the watercooler tomorrow, too bad some of you uptight losers won't.

I bet the regulars don't even give a f--- what anyone in this newsgroup thinks about their show.

The show that came before tonight's episode was much funnier,

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You are living in denial. Every time I have a conversation about Seinfeld lately, it eventually winds its way to the acceptance that the show has taken a huge nosedive this season. People talk about Seinfeld now even if the shows are bad because its a national phenomenon. It does NOT mean the shows are still of the same quality as the past seasons. How many people on this newsgroup will have to complain about the nosedive until the rest of you finally admit that there must be something to it.

Hey, I'm one of the people who admit that the 9th season isn't nearly as good as past seasons. But I really thought that The Reverse Peephole was really good and really funny. But some people just put on that "Seinfeld downfall" mentality and they just try not to laugh at everything. I just talked to some buddies over by the watercooler and they say that "The Reverse Peephole" was the best of the season and they hoped that the final ten will continually get better.

Hey, dude. It's just a TV show.

Interesting - I thought this was as close to some of the earlier shows as they've come in a long while. Talked to a few friends about it, and they mostly thought this one was way better than average for the past couple seasons...

Steve

maybe you should just stop watching. You'll never be happy w/ anything they do so dont tune in.

Gosh, you Seinfelders are hard to please. I thought that was the funniest show I have seen in a long time. Jerry in that fur coat and the "European organizer". That was hilarious.