Phil Bruns on as Jerry's dad!

Sep 19, 2001, 9:51 PM ET10 posts by 8 posters
Question

Fans discuss which actor originally played George's father Frank Costanza before Jerry Stiller took the role in syndication reruns.

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VPaterno

The WNYW (Channel 5, NY) rerun airing at 7:30 tonight (9/19), the one where George claims to be an architect, showed Phil Bruns as the first appearance of Jerry's TV dad. I had always heard that his footage on this ep had been reshot for syndication with Bruns replaced. What gives?

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John TwernboldVPaterno

Close! Right story, wrong Seinfeld father. :-) It was the first appearance of Frank Costanza which was reshot for syndication with Jerry Stiller.

John Twernbold jtwernbold (at) yahoo.com
Mark MellinJohn Twernbold

In article , "John Twernbold" wrote:

Right. For comparison, check out Ozmodiar's page at

http://www.springlake.net/ozmodiar/franks.html

Note the change in George's hairline in the bottom images.

  • Mark
Mark Mellin Precita Valley, CA USA 94110-5206
MailmanMark Mellin

On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 05:09:33 GMT, [email] (Mark Mellin) wrote:

But why did they reshoot that scene? Something happened with Georges 1st dad in real life so that it wouldn't be appropriate to show his image on TV or something...? (Just making something up here).

Bye, Mailman

John TwernboldMailman

I'm not sure, but I always assumed it for consistency, and for the ease of reshooting. Stiller was available, so they just brought back a couple other actors for the small parts and reshot it. I'm wondering if they didn't redo Jerry's dad in his first appearance because there would have been more scenes to do. This is all just a guess, of course. I'm not sure of the real details or motivation.

John Twernbold jtwernbold (at) yahoo.com
Aldis RapsysJohn Twernbold

They didn't expect to have George's dad to be a regular character, PLUS I think that the original actor(well-known character actor) died or got sick. After introducing Stiller as Frank, things took off, and they decided to reshoot to avoid inconsistencies. However, I did get the original Dad on tape.

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Scott PMailman

On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:24:37 +0200, Mailman wrote:

My guess is that Jerry Stiller was so popular as Frank Costanza they felt having someone else in the scene would have been too jarring/confusing when people saw it in syndication. The same thing happened with Newman. The first episode with Newman only featured his voice which was done by Larry David. In the syndication version it was redone by Wayne Knight.

Scott

Art VandelayScott P

The scenes in which Jerry's original dad appeared occured in Jerry's apartment, which physically changed after the first few episodes (most obvious: the window next to Jerry's desk went from being floor-to-ceiling to a smaller type; also in those early days, Jerry had no bedroom, so there was no hallway to the left of the bathroom door). Reshooting those scenes with a new actor would have required changing the set back to its original appearance, and then changing it back again.

Art VandelayVPaterno

<<<The WNYW (Channel 5, NY) rerun airing at 7:30 tonight (9/19), the one where George claims to be an architect, showed Phil Bruns as the first appearance of Jerry's TV dad. I had always heard that his footage on this ep had been reshot for syndication with Bruns replaced. What gives?>>>

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