Episode where Jerry dates a woman who keeps "looking different"?

My brother and I are stumped as to which Seinfeld episode featured Jerry dating a woman who would look differently depending on where they went to dinner. So Jerry kept trying to meet her in a restaurant where she was seen "in a good light". That just cracked us up. Can anyone help us out?

I really appreciate it.

CatWalker.

Don't know the name, but it's the one with Festivus. And the one where George gives everyone at his office a gift in the form of a donation to "The Human Fund." Also in this one, Kramer goes back to work at a bagel shop.

Episode 166. The Strike First aired: 12/18/1997 Writer: Daniel O'Keefe, Alec Berg, Jeff Schaffer Director: Andy Ackerman Guest star: Jerry Stiller (Frank Costanza), Estelle Harris (Estelle Costanza), Bryan Cranston (Whatley) , Daniel Von Bargen (Kruger), Karen Fineman (Gwen), Kevin McDonald (Denim Vest), Tracy Letts (Counterguy), Amit Itelman (Employee), Stacey Herring (Sandy), Colin Malone (Sleazy Guy), Jerry Dixon (Customer), Suzanne Krull (Gwen), Dave Florek (Harry)

Global rating: 8.56

George, Elaine and Jerry attend Tim Whatley's Hanukkah party. Jerry meets an attractive woman with whom he sets up a date. Elaine meets a man in a bad denim vest and gives him her fake number. George is offended by Whatley's gift to him, a donation in his name to a charity. George is also reminded of the Festivus holiday his father created many years ago. Elaine's quest to become a submarine captain and get her free sub sandwich is ruined when she realizes she used her punch card at the party to give her fake number to the denim vested guy. Kramer gets word he can return to his job at the bagel place, it seems he has been on strike for the past 12 years. Elaine goes to the place, an off-track betting parlor, that her fake number reaches. She wanted to give them her real number, so when the denim vest guy calls, she can connect with him. The men at the parlor are interested in connecting with her, so she gives the number for the bagel shop where Kramer is working. Jerry meets his date, Gwen, at a restaurant, but it turns out she is two-faced. Sometimes Gwen looks great, other times she's plain; it all depends on the viewer's angle and the lighting. George decides to use the Whatley approach when giving out Christmas gifts at Krugers; however, he makes up his own charity called the "Human Fund." Kramer is intrigued by the concept of the Festivus holiday and contacts Frank, who becomes excited at the prospect of rekindling "Festivus for the rest-of-us." Kramer asks to get the 23rd of December off, when he can't get it, he resumes the strike; meanwhile Elaine waits at the bagel place for a phone call from the denim vest guy. The look of Jerry's girlfriend keeps changing. Jerry decides that Gwen looks best in the back booth at Monk's, something she grows to dislike. George passes out his gifts at Krugers and reaps great rewards. Kramer warns Elaine about the sabotage he committed; the bagel place becomes very steamy and makes Elaine look ugly. Kruger gives George a check for donates $20,000 to the "Human Fund" and later accounting informs him the charity doesn't exist. Gwen finds out from Kramer that Jerry is seeing another woman, Kramer has seen her and she's not Gwen. Gwen thinks Jerry is two-timing her with an ugly woman. George tries to convince Kruger that he passed out the fake gift cards because he didn't want to be ridiculed for the holiday his family traditionally celebrates, Festivus. To prove it, George brings Kruger to his father's Festivus dinner, where everyone comes together.

On 11 Dec 2005 16:37:00 -0800, [email] wrote:

Two different actresses playing the same Gwen?

So it wasn't just the lightning then? I actually thought it was, together with some make up and other dirty tricks.

Lars Stockholm

[email] wrote:

Where did you find that?

All the scripts I have seen show only Karen Fineman as "Gwen".

Yes. The credits after the episode also show just Karen Fineman as "Gwen".

Anuj

In article , "TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote:

Wow, same here.

Here's the imdb entry from Suzanne Krull's Notable TV Guest Appearances:

<http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0006816/>

"Seinfeld" playing "Gwen" in episode: "The Strike" (episode # 9.10) 18 December 1997

• Mark

Boy, after all these years, you learn something new. Googling both Suzanne Krull and Karen Fineman comes up with numerous references to Gwen #1 and #2.

Rerics

"Rerics" wrote in news:[email]:

I think, in the credits for that episode, one of the actresses was credited as the ugly Gwen and the other actress was credited as the attractive version of Gwen.

Until I paid attention to the credits--having seen the episode a number of times--I always assumed it was the same actress. Ugly Gwen and Pretty Gwen didn't look that different to me.

I just captured some screen snaps from the episode. I think there were two "Gwens" but not a pretty one and an ugly one. I think the Gwen that enters the Costanza house at the end is a different actress from the Gwen we were seeing throughout the episode. I think we saw Karen Fineman as the Pretty/Ugly Gwen for most of the episode and then for some reason, maybe she was not available, they had to use a similar actress, Suzanne Krull, for the final scene.

Here are my screen snaps.. http://tinyurl.com/dlhec

What do you think?

In article , [email] says...

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:41:56 +0200, Noone wrote:

You know, sometimes they credit actresses on shows, and cut them (or not use them). But they're still credited. Because looking at the photos, there's no way that Suzanne Krull is in any of the "The Strike" scenes. They might have went with a different actress for the "ugly" shots, but decided to just go with the non-make-up, put something under her upper lip to make it look different, etc. etc. It's definitely the same actress doing both parts.

--Phil

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote in news:u4Mnf.1351$[email]:

[snip]

Well, the Ugly/Pretty Gwen look similar but so does the screenshot of the other actress playing Gwen. Ahh, my head!

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:01:54 -0500, TheNewsGuy(Mike) wrote:

Here, in the very post I was commenting;

From: [email]

Episode 166. The Strike First aired: 12/18/1997 Writer: Daniel O'Keefe, Alec Berg, Jeff Schaffer Director: Andy Ackerman Guest star: Jerry Stiller (Frank Costanza), Estelle Harris (Estelle Costanza), Bryan Cranston (Whatley) , Daniel Von Bargen (Kruger), Karen Fineman (Gwen), Kevin McDonald (Denim Vest), Tracy Letts (Counterguy), Amit Itelman (Employee), Stacey Herring (Sandy), Colin Malone (Sleazy Guy), Jerry Dixon (Customer), Suzanne Krull (Gwen), Dave Florek (Harry)

Global rating: 8.56

George, Elaine and Jerry attend Tim Whatley's Hanukkah party. Jerry meets an attractive woman with whom he sets up a date. Elaine meets a man in a bad denim vest and gives him her fake number. George is offended by Whatley's gift to him, a donation in his name to a ..... ...............................

Lars Stockholm

It's this one (and one of the best of that season):

THE STRIKE

(Episode 164): George, Elaine and Jerry attend Tim Whatley's Hanukkah party. Jerry meets an attractive woman with whom he sets up a date. Elaine meets a man in a bad denim vest and gives him her fake number. George is offended by Whatley's gift to him, a donation in his name to a charity. George is also reminded of the Festivus holiday his father created many years ago. Elaine's quest to become a submarine captain and get her free sub sandwich is ruined when she realizes she used her punch card at the party to give her fake number to the denim vested guy. Kramer gets word he can return to his job at the bagel place, it seems he has been on strike for the past 12 years. Elaine goes to the place, an off-track betting parlor, that her fake number reaches. She wanted to give them her real number, so when the denim vest guy calls, she can connect with him. The men at the parlor are interested in connecting with her, so she gives the number for the bagel shop where Kramer is working. Jerry meets his date, Gwen, at a restaurant, but it turns out she is two-faced. Sometimes Gwen looks great, other times she's plain; it all depends on the viewer's angle and the lighting. George decides to use the Whatley approach when giving out Christmas gifts at Krugers; however, he makes up his own charity called the "Human Fund." Kramer is intrigued by the concept of the Festivus holiday and contacts Frank, who becomes excited at the prospect of rekindling "Festivus for the rest-of-us." Kramer asks to get the 23rd of December off, when he can't get it, he resumes the strike; meanwhile Elaine waits at the bagel place for a phone call from the denim vest guy. The look of Jerry's girlfriend keeps changing and he decides that she looks best in the back booth at Monk's, something she grows to dislike. George passes out his gifts at Krugers and reaps great rewards. Kramer warns Elaine about the sabotage he committed, the bagel place becomes very steamy and makes Elaine look ugly. Kruger gives George a check for donates $20,000 to the "Human Fund" and later accounting informs him the charity doesn't exist. Gwen finds out from Kramer that Jerry is seeing another woman, Kramer has seen her and she's not Gwen. Gwen thinks Jerry is two timing her with an ugly woman. George tries to convince Kruger that he passed out the fake gift cards because he didn't want to be ridiculed for the holiday his family traditionally celebrates, Festivus. To prove it, George brings Kruger to his father's Festivus dinner, where everyone comes together. Air Date 18 December 1997

[email] wrote:

Wow! That was a quick response. Thanks folks. To add to my luck, that very episode is the only one I see posted in alt.binaries.multimedia.comedy.seinfeld at the moment. Sadly though, it appears to be corrupted (even with the pars posted). If anyone knows where I can get it (via usenet, bittorrent, limewire, etc) I would appreciate it.

Thanks again. "Serenity Now" CatWalker

In article , CatWalker wrote:

Update: I found the episode doing a search using Limewire. I also found another of my all time favorite episodes: Bizarro Jerry (the one with the woman who has "man hands").

CatWalker.

In article , CatWalker wrote:

Mininova TV seems to have all Seinfeld episodes:

http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=seinfeld