Rachel = Shoshana ?

S05E18 The Raincoats (1)liveApr 29, 1994, 6:36 PM ETthe next day15 posts by 11 posters
🧠 Theory

Fans debate whether a character named Rachel represents a reference to Jerry Seinfeld's real-life friend Shoshana, based on physical characteristics and family background.

15 posts
Les Klimczak
	Somebody in this group had speculated whether JS will dare to
include in the show a reference to his friendship with Shoshana. Could it
be that the lovely Rachel may represent such a reference? 'Inquiring
minds' would notice that the Rachel character was: 1, busty; 2, quite
young (lived with her parents and her father was in charge of her dating);
3, her looks could be considered Middle Eastern-Jewish.
	Any comments?

Les

Nathan FoxLes Klimczak

In article , [email] (Les Klimczak) wrote:

     There have been others like her.  One episode was the one where Jerry
and Elaine are arguing about whether or not the woman he was dating had
fake breasts.   She was very similar to this woman in the recent episode
(except she didn't live at home) and was busty and beautiful.
     I think that this type of woman is just his type, that's all....

PS- They're real, and their *WONDERFUL*.

* Nathan * * W. * * Fox * * [email] *
cleopatraNathan Fox

No, it's *They're real. And they're SPECTACULAR!*

Same feeling, different word. :) Can't misquote the sein, now can we?

I watched this episode (as well as Lois&Clark), but don't agree that Teri Hatcher is as busty as she's made out to be. Sorry, I don't see it. Sure, she's got a great body, but there are other women out there that are more deserved of the adjective "busty".

No they're not. They're SPECTACULAR!

Email to: [email] (Flame away, I'm Superman!) The other night I was lying in bed, looking up at the stars, and I wondered, "Where the fuck is my ROOF ?!?"
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No they're not. They're real, and they're spec-*TAC*-ularrrrrr.

matt yuen san jose, ca

HEFFAYMatt Yuen

In article , [email] (Matt Yuen) writes:

That was Teri Hatcher (Lois & Clark: Superman). One of the most physically attractive women on the planet these days.

Crazy BearHEFFAY

In article , [email] (HEFFAY) wrote:

That was Teri Hatcher? I didn't think it was, but nevermind. Could someone fill me in on the bit that went before in these posts, please,thanks. Since I have been away a while. Direct email would be appreciated. [email]

Adios y gracias, Crazy Bear.
Matt YuenLes Klimczak

I'm glad someone else noticed this besides me. No one at work caught this similarity, and I thought I was going out of my mind. (Of course, if you ever saw the Seinfeld spoof on the Howard Stern New Years Eve special, you could never believe that Seinfeld would make any reference to Shoshona on the show).

I agree with the response prior to this one, that Jerry tends to get the busty middle-eastern looking girls (women), but THIS one was living at home with her parents. When her father answered the door and Jerry said, "Oh, hello Mr. . . . ." I could barely imagine what this must be like in real life. I think I read somewhere that Jerry just waits in the limousine in the street, and Shoshona comes down, or the driver goes and gets her. What a creep.

matt yuen san jose, ca

Michael MotodaLes Klimczak

MY>I'm glad someone else noticed this besides me. No one at work caught MY>this similarity, and I thought I was going out of my mind. (Of course, MY>if you ever saw the Seinfeld spoof on the Howard Stern New Years Eve MY>special, you could never believe that Seinfeld would make any reference MY>to Shoshona on the show).

I'm not really honed in onto how Jewish people look (names, sometimes), but I did notice Rachel and how she was both busty and living with her parents. I think that they meant to do it. Oh well.

MY>I agree with the response prior to this one, that Jerry tends to get the MY>busty middle-eastern looking girls (women), but THIS one was living at MY>home with her parents. When her father answered the door and Jerry said, MY>"Oh, hello Mr. . . . ." I could barely imagine what this must be like in MY>real life. I think I read somewhere that Jerry just waits in the MY>limousine in the street, and Shoshona comes down, or the driver goes and MY>gets her. What a creep.

I would like to hear the source on that one.

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Michael MotodaLes Klimczak

MH>I watched this episode (as well as Lois&Clark), but don't agree that Teri MH>Hatcher is as busty as she's made out to be. Sorry, I don't see it. Sure, MH>she's got a great body, but there are other women out there that are more MH>deserved of the adjective "busty".

That one movie with Kevin Bacon definitely shows her attributes on a much larger scale. In the Seinfeld episode, they looked somewhat smaller. Maybe it was her clothes, maybe she got them reduced. At the beginning, even Elaine looked "bigger" than Sidra. They're both pretty ladies, that's for sure.

MH>No they're not. They're SPECTACULAR! ~~~~~~~~~~~ I love seeing people write the wrong adjective in that space. :^) (Of course, I wasn't referring to you.)

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young-sup leeMichael Motoda

In article ,

^^^^^^^^ the only thing we know about sidra's breasts are that they are real and spectacular. no mention of size anywhere.

young-sup lee email: [email] mail: po box 9483, stanford, ca 94309 tel: 415-497-9425
Allen Weineryoung-sup lee

In case anyone missed it, the gal who played Rachel was also Billy Campell's co-worker Cecilia at the magazine in "Melrose Place."

Allen Weiner Manager The Gate San Francisco Newspaper Agency 415.777.6036 (San Francisco Chronicle & Examiner)
HEFFAYAllen Weiner

I think it's fairly obvious too that Rachel Goldstein is a Shoshana hint. I figure it's the writers throwing a friendly jab at Jerry and the logistics of dating a college freshman who lives at home. I think it's an excellent sign that Jerry's willing to play along and have fun with it.

(Not like Jerry has go to Shoshana's door and meet her dad, he just sends a limo for her.)

Michael MotodaLes Klimczak

CL>: PS- They're real, and their *WONDERFUL*. CL>No, it's *They're real. And they're SPECTACULAR!*

CL>Same feeling, different word. :) Can't misquote the sein, now can we? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Actually, Sidra said that one, not the Sein. But I know what you meant. Gotta be technical in here, ya know. :^)

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Joseph A. McVeighLes Klimczak

[email] (Les Klimczak) writes:

I took it as more of a Shakespearean gag - Rachel and Jerry as Romeo and Juliet. Parents on both sides obstructed their romance. And there is a cultural precedent - that whole operatic barber show.

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