After all the questions about who's Jewish, how about George? Is he a Christian (at least in name only)? His praise of Christian rock as being positive isn't much to go on (especially if he's using it as an excuse to bash those 'hip rock stars').
Is George a Christian?
Fans debate George Costanza's religion, with some saying he's Jewish like Jerry and others insisting he's Latvian Orthodox, referencing the show's storyline.
He's Latvian Orthodox.
No, that did'nt take...he's jewish, like Jerry.
Geez...How many times do we have to go over this?
George is NOT Jewish.
JKlompas wrote:
Indeed, how many times? George IS Jewish. His mother is Jewish. He was raised as a Jew.
What religion are YOU saying he has? He is either Jewish or has no official religion.
"JESUS WEPT!"
Jonathan
Jonathan wrote in message ...
I know that I am going to get flamed for this, but let's review anyway:
He's cheap He's very cheap He's extremely cheap He's extremely very cheap
There was some joke that _everybody_ in New York is Jewish (like on St. Patrick's Day, everybody's Irish).
DId George ever renounce his affiliation with the Latvian Orthodox faith? They do have neat hats....
Dave
DId George ever renounce his affiliation with the Latvian Orthodox faith? They do have neat hats....
They
I don't think so. I believe that "what didn't take" was Susan's lesbianism.
Actually it was Jerry who said, "It didn't take." when asked by someone if George converted.
Dave wrote:
George also once himself did say "It didn't take", but it was in response to someone saying: "I thought you just took a shower" when George was sweating.
--Kman (the *original* Kman, not Kramer that nick-name stealing sonofabitch)
JKlompas ([email]) wrote:
He is definetely not Jewish. He is Italian. There was an episode where Frank Costanza tells a story about one of his brothers who still lives in Tuscanny, Italy. I don't know if Estelle is Italian, but I know the father is.
News flash: Judaism is a religion, "Italian" is a nationality. The two are not interchangeable.
AKoleszar ([email]) wrote:
Your right. Like a lot of people, I have tendency to mix those two up. What I meant to say was that George was Catholic.
Niraj Agarwalla wrote:
Yeap Catholic, obvious isn't it?
Jonathan
Funny, I thought George was Latvian Orthodox....
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George likes Christian rock.
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This just in. A Jew is 1.a person descended, or regarded as descended, from the ancient Hebrews of Biblical times. 2.a person whose religion is Judaism. He converted to Latvian Orthodox from whatever he was before. Since Frank is Italian, one would assume that the family's religion is Catholicism. There are born-again Jews, there are born-again Catholics, there are born-again Christians. All acknowledge that they were once dead(in their sins),but now live(in Christ). Not a bad deal, it's free.
Happy Easter,
Since Frank Costanza is a member of the Knights of Columbus a roman cathloic organazation i would think that George is Cathloic but he did convert to Latvinan Orthodox.
On 29 Mar 1998 05:55:57 GMT, Niraj Agarwalla wrote:
Huh?!
How does the one deny the other?
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Jewish - religion Italian - nationality
Of course, one can be a Jewish Italian (or an Italian Jew)
In "The Strike", Frank says that Festivus began when he didn't get a doll for George ON CHRISTMAS, not Hanukkah. So therefore, unless they're Jews who celebrate Christmas, George is a Christian.
Seriously now, just because one celebrates Christmas does not make them a Christian.... But George definitely is not Jewish.
EpikDave wrote:
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WHY?
Jonathan
It's been stated blatantly at least once, and there are no inferences anywhere else to George being Jewish.
Dave
EpikDave wrote:
What episode, what scene, what words?
The whole 170 episodes are one long inference thatGeorge is Jewish.
Jonathan
EpikDave is right in that one does not have to be Christian to celebrate Christmas. However, if one DOES celebrate Christmas, they are definately NOT Jewish. Unless George converted, he is not a Jew. Also, for those you did not see the connection: Italian - Italy - The Vatican - The Pope - Catholic. No, it's not a garuantee that George is Catholic - but it's something.
Jonathan wrote in message ...
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I give up.
Jonathan wrote:
No, I don't. I can't let it lie.
Frank Costanza sold religious articles in Korea, and belongs to the Knights of Columbus. You MUST be Catholic to belong to this organization. Jerry Stiller is Jewish which is why someone posted that his mannerisms are Jewish. I was born and raised in NYC, and there are many Italian Catholics married to Jewish people (also other nationalities) The children are usually raised as Catholics, if the Catholic spouse is practising, but the Jewish religion believes that the children should be raised in the mother's religion. It seems to me that Frank is Catholic and Estelle is Jewish, and George is nothing! Of course Estelle could be Catholic but the actress could be Jewish just like Jerry STiller. Does it really matter? Except that as a former NYer I knew a lot of people like that when I was growing up, and yes, NYers will go out of their way to go to a certain bakery, no matter what their religion or nationality. Hope you don't mind this long post, but I enjoy reading all your comments!
However, if one DOES celebrate Christmas, they are definately NOT Jewish.
** There are lots of people who consider themselves
Jewish and celebrate Christmas. Those of us who
take the religion more seriously may regret such
a practice, but (contrary to some fascist imaginations)
there is no supreme Jewish authority to establish any
discipline.
Mark L.When was it said that George 'celebrates' Christmas? There was a comment about a Christmas present he didn't receive - but Jewish people receive Christmas presents from Christians and they are usually accepted with politeness. In an office environment it probably is normal for a Jewish person to give small gifts to coworkers (although they are usually not donations to charities that don't exist). But celebrate?
Mark L. Levinson wrote:
TheNewsGuy(MIKE) wrote in message ...
I you want to be that way then I guess we can't say whether or not George is Christian. We also can't say whether or not George is Jewish. So where are we now? Nowhere. Die thread Die. I agree Jonathan: I give up. I never should have said anything - it only perpetuates this utterly useless, pointless, meaningless debate.
George wrote:
A meaningless thread? Could you call that a thread about nothing?
Jonathan
Jonathan wrote: <snip>
Should we sew up this thread because we are out of material? :-)
TheNewsGuy(MIKE) wrote:
We've got nothing, News Guy, nothing!
Unfortunately we can't go out on a high note either :(
Jonathan
POD
Hey, he doesn't celebrate Hannakah, or Chritmas, remember? Its Festivous. This has to have some sort of religion wrapped around it. Aah, who knows.
JKlompas wrote in message ...
I believe that it has been declared on the show that George is not Jewish. George belongs to no organized religion. Religion isn ot something everbody "has". In fact, nobody on Seinfeld could be considered of being of any particular religion, although Jewish customs to pop up every now and again.....
Dave
So I guess he's "Festivan"
No, he can't be a "Festivan" because Festivus isn't about religion at all. It's about bitterness and the disappointment that everyone has caused you throughout the year. Come to think of it...that last statement sounds like most religions. 'Feats of Strength' are a classic though.