Murders on Seinfeld

	I watched the show when Elaine was dating Joel Rifkin.  In that Elaine
tries to get Joel to change his name because it is the same as a notorious
killer.
	The spooky part is that at one point she tries to have him change is name
to O.J, the name of another notorious killer..   Ironic or what, maybe a
little Nostrodomus in our little Lainey

OJ Simpson was found not guilty in a court of law. That makes him not guilty. OH! WHOAH! Lets not get into a discussion of whether or not we think he did it. I don't think anybody cares. I just wanted to say that if someone is found not guilty it means they are not guilty. End of discussion, please.

On Sat, 05 Apr 1997 13:48:40 -0500, Eric wrote:

WHAT?? If someone is found not-guilty in court that means he is not guilty in reality? That kind of thinking is not consistent with appreciating Seinfeld. I can hear it on Seinfeld, "Oh, Elaine, if OJ was found not guilty and is calling you for a date you should go." Would you encourage your sister to go out with the person found liable for the deaths of Ron and Nicole because Johnny the Sleaze manipulated him out of jail time?

I think we can see this in the episodes where Kramer is getting the lawyer to sue the coffee company and elsewhere the tobacco company for damages. What a sleaze the laywer is; what a sleaze all lawyers are.

OJ Simpson was found not guilty in a court of law. That makes him not guilty. OH! WHOAH! Lets not get into a discussion of whether or not we think he did it. I don't think anybody cares. I just wanted to say that if someone is found not guilty it means they are not guilty. End of discussion, please.

Not guilty does not mean innocent....

On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Eric wrote:

it doesn't mean they're innocent

In article , [email] says...

guilty.

not guilty it

Amen to that!!!

Yeah. I know it's off topic but, didn't OJ say he would devote his life to finding 'the real killer'?? Doesn't seem like he's looking too hard, does it?

Steve Writes:

He may find the killer in the next sand trap. Who knows?

Hmm. Loss of life (oh, let's just call it 'death'),

Responsible for death, but not guilty of murder? Only a lawyer could have come up wiuth that one. Maybe there's some subtle distinction in a court room, but out here in real life, they're the same thing.

Bill Bickel wrote:

Or, to put it another way: "not guilty" means the jury believes the prosecution did not fulfill its obligation to convince them of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

-Dave

Eric wrote:

because you were found 'not guilty' dosen't mean you can't be a ' notorious killer' - it just means the prosecution didn't prove it's case.

Let's make a list of all the murders mentioned on "Seinfeld":

- the 18 murders committed by the other Joel Rifkin
- the murder of poor little Pinckus, the dry cleaner, by Gendeson,
	Kramer's golfing buddy and former baseball star
- the three (?) murders committed by the Smog Strangler, presumed at
	one point (falsely) to be Kramer
- the murder of Susan at George's unwitting hand

Any more?

Emily

[M. Emily Cummins]

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The murders committed by Som of Sam?

In [email] (Turid Mevold) writes:

Susan's death wasn't murder, it was accidental.

Wasn't the character played by Jon Lovitz (the "cancer" patient) murdered? I remember Jerry saying something like, "No, it wasn't cancer. He was killed." I don't have the episode on tape, so I can't be sure.

--Simonfeld

I don't think he was murdered. I remember it was something like him being hit by a bus while chasing his toupee out into the street after it blew off his head. I could be wrong.

Bo

[M. Emily Cummins]

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The murders committed by Son of Sam?

Susan's death was at the hand of another... one who had wished her ill, had aimed desperately to escape the bonds of matrimony. I say thus that her death indeed counts under the rubric of this subject heading.

Emily

Hmm.. what about Marty Benson? The guy who Richie Apell poured a bucket of gatorade on at Kramers instruction, who developed pneumonia and died, possibly not murder though.. (??) How's that for a waste of my memory.. :)

r.

On 8 Apr 1997, Russell Davies wrote:

It wouldn't even be considered manslaughter...I think?

Brendan Bugeja Victoria Australia

In , Brendan Michael Bugeja writes:

I missed the earlier posts in this thread. Did anybody mention Pinkus, the dry cleaner?