Fans speculate that the show's writers are reading their Usenet arguments about character names like Dolores and deliberately including them in episodes to settle debates.
this is all cleared up after the season opener, right?
I seriously think that someone (kenny kramer?) saw all these arguments we've been hving over Dolores/Regina/Mulva/Dipple/Celeste and put the character back in the show.
I think the bald woman should be reintroduced just so that george can say he's back with the bald woman and Jerry can start singing softly "Take me out with the bald dame......"
he he
[email] (michael davies) wrote:
I see that you also checked the closing credits to get the correct spelling of Dolores.
I was thinking the same thing -- about someone watching our arguments (but of course I don't believe it). I got lambasted for pointing out that the dictionary gives the spelling as DOLORES (not Delores). So, I figured they took pity on my and spelled it Dolores in the credits.
But they forgot to clear up one thing that we have been arguing about -- what is Newman's first name?
[email] (debbie) wrote: "I was thinking the same thing -- about someone watching our arguments "(but of course I don't believe it). I got lambasted for pointing out "that the dictionary gives the spelling as DOLORES (not Delores). So, "I figured they took pity on my and spelled it Dolores in the credits. " "But they forgot to clear up one thing that we have been arguing about "-- what is Newman's first name? Do any of the staff lurk here? I know a lot of the "Frasier" folks hang out in alt.tv.frasier (producer/director David Lee chimes in often in that and the Wings groups), and it's common knowledge that the staff on the X-files throws in bits occasionally to address stuff the fans bat around on the net (like showing Mulder with a back-up gun after fans complained about how often, and how easily, he gets disarmed). And Dave Barry occasionally stops by his group, though I don't think his show has one. Somehow, I don't see the Seinfeld gang as net-enhanced, though, despite Jerry having a computer. It's gotta be gratifying for the folks who work on the shows to get the immediate response from fans that the net provides, especially when they can remain mostly anonymous. epbrown [email] Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown
On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 02:55:58 GMT, [email] (debbie) wrote:
debbie.. do you have general reality testing problems? get real OR better yet, get a life. diane
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Diane, THANK YOU...THANK YOU...THANK YOU for your very astute comments. I stopped visiting this newsgroup weeks ago because I tired of all the infantile arguments regarding the spelling of Delores. By the way, I know Debbie's reading this message, so allow me to say that I STILL spell it DELORES, and so does my aunt, who has spelled it that way for over 70 years. I know, I know, the credits say DOLORES...and so does your dictionary. Big *&^%$#@! deal!! So you were right. I just KNEW I'd find you in here gloating about the premiere. Wait a minute...is it Debbie? Maybe it's Debi? Or Debby. Maybe it's Debra...or Deborah??? What does your dictionary say? Never mind, you already told me how the dictionary spells it weeks ago. But just to be sure, maybe we should check the credits!!!
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Breakfast@Tiffany's (Holly Golightly) wrote: [email] (debbie) wrote: ">I was thinking the same thing -- about someone watching our arguments ">(but of course I don't believe it). I got lambasted for pointing out ">that the dictionary gives the spelling as DOLORES (not Delores). So, ">I figured they took pity on my and spelled it Dolores in the credits. "> "debbie.. do you have general reality testing problems? get real OR "better yet, get a life. "diane Sheesh, give Debbie a break! What are you guys, new or something? The net is crawling with media types, and the scenario outlined more than possible. Lots of writers, producers, and other tv staffers hang out on the groups for their shows, usually in lurk mode. alt.tv.x-files - Producer Chris Carter is known to read the group, especially since net.nerds are pretty much the show's target audience. Fans can tell you of several instances when topics addressed in the group were explained on the show. David Duchovny said in a interview that he lurked there, until a long thread started about how we never saw Scully adjust the car seat driving after the taller Mulder - that, he felt, was getting a little weird. alt.tv.wings/alt.tv.frasier - Producer David Lee is a frequent poster, providing insight on the show and discussing it with fans. He says that other staffers are lurking as well - I know of at least 2 from Frasier. alt.fan.dave-barry - Dave stops by his group occassionally, though folks say he tends to read a few days worth of posts and respond at random rather than lurk regularly. rec.arts.sf.written - lots of authors stop by to hype, and in some cases defend, their work. One friend who blasted an author's book was sent a long email reaming him out for "not interpreting it correctly." The author doesn't post though, so no one knew he lurks there before the guy "outed" himself. Authors also hang out in the alt.books.* hierarchy, mostly non-fiction ones for some reason. rec.arts.comics.dc.vertigo - I know some comics artists and authors read all the comics groups, but I only read this one, and we hear from John Ney Reiber regularly (he answered a post of mine yesterday), and others occasionally (I think when folks tell them what we're saying about them). rec.arts.movies.current-films - Roger Ebert is known to lurk there, appropriately enough, and even mentioned a regular on the group who posts his own reviews, saying the guy was good enough to write professionally. He tends to email people privately rather than post. Rosie O'Donnell and Courtney Love are known to have their own bulletin boards on AOL, and post regularly. So did that actress who played in "All American Girl." Rosie O has a whole freakin' section, as do other celebs! alt.fan.cecil-adams - His "editor" Ed Zotti pops in occasionally to ask for help with the really tough questions, and occassionally joins in when folk are batting around a conundrum. Not to mention the folks in the biz who hang around alt.showbiz.gossip, but I will anyway. Then there are the reporters who come onto some groups to ask for help researching stories, or for subjects for interviews. I recall hearing about a tiff on the sexual abuse groups when some reporter asked for interviewees for an article on incest. I've given permission for my posts to be quoted in articles 3 or 4 times on other groups, and refused to be interviewed for an article on racism a few months ago based on my comments in a local group. The Oprah Winfrey Show asks for attendees on Usenet when someone from a show is going to be a guest. (They asked on the Frasier group when Kelsey Grammer came on, and everyone within driving distance went.) And those are just what *I've* seen, as far as media related stuff, and I only read a few groups. On the tech groups software designers and hardware designers stop by to ask about how folks like their work (someone on comp.sys.laptops is defending a power-management scheme he developed for Acer's latest notebook as I write this). Lots of businesses, especially show business, have realized they can get immediate specific response from their audience by lurking in the appropriate groups, and I can almost guarantee *someone* from Seinfeld reads the group. I'm not saying someone saw the Dolores debate and stuck that in just for us (or, as you guys say, Debbie), but it's far from being as improbable as you're making out. Hopefully, they'll start hiring people just to lurk on the internet and listen in :) I'll shut up now, epbrown [email] Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown
On Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:20:56 GMT, [email] (epbrown) wrote:
ok then why don't they have george have a cyber affair with someone on the computer and talk about hot chats and cybersex and then kramer can tease him into worrying he is really cyberfucking a man and all the net nurds would love it. if they need some transcripts ...oh no ,, nevermind.
diane