SchoolHouse Rock & Seinfeld

Apr 25, 1993, 10:16 PM ET30 posts by 25 posters
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Fan proposes Seinfeld episode concept featuring Schoolhouse Rock's "I'm Just a Bill" song with Kramer humming it and characters discussing it throughout, receiving mixed reactions from the community.

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Evan Golub

I was just on a search for the videos of SchoolHouse Rock from ABC, and realized that this has the potential for a Seinfeld episode.

Kramer walks in door humming the tune to "I'mm Just A Bill"

Jerry : "What's that you're humming? Sounds familiar."

Kramer : " Oh it's the Bill Song "

Jerry : "The Bill Song?"

Kramer : "Yeah, you knwo, the Bill Song"

Jerry : "Oh, the BILL song."

George (coming out of the bathroom)

Doorbell buzzes, it's Elaine, Jerry buzzes her in

Elaine walks in three seconds later (doesn't it always seem too quick)

Elaine : "What are you guys talking about?"

Jerry : "Kramer was just humming the Bill song."

Elaine : "Oh"

George : "What's the bill song?"

----SCENE CUT----

Entire episode continues with occasional references to, but no singing of, the Bill Song.

---End Credit Bit---

Jerry is in his car on a date with someone from episode and starts humming the Bill Song, to which she turns and says, "The Bill Song, I LOVE that song." They then start singing the song.

-Evan Golub-

oconnor_sEvan Golub

I like the idea, personally. The whole thing is very Seinfeld-esque and would probably have us all raving for the entire week after the show with the weekly person who calls it "the best ever, etc"

I know somebody was quick to post an insult to this attempt at free thinking by telling Evan not to quit his day job.

I am going to cast my vote in support of the outline drawn up by Evan.

I think if more people posted items like this to the group instead of all the repetitive garbage that gets posted 42 times like "that was so-and-so playing the parking attendant", then this group might actually become a bit more fun to read

Keep up the good work, Evan, perhaps you'll inspire more thought and less cereal box counting and credits-checking.

Scott.

Dan Halabeoconnor_s

In [email] writes:

Here here! (or is it Hear hear! ?) - However they say bravo in English.

You sound like someone who might throw support behind the idea of alt.tv.seinfeld.creative. Alena Darling [email] and I have expressed this sentiment both on and off line.

If everyone out there would mail me $15.00, I think we could get this movement going.

But really, what do you think? Same question to Evan Golub.

Dan [email]
Alan SepinwallDan Halabe

Doesn't sound like a bad idea at all! I've always wanted to try to write a "Seinfeld", but I never bothered because I knew I'd never be able to sell it (some friends of mine who graduated last year went to Hollywood with what they thought was a brilliant Seinfeld script - an entire episode devoted to George trying to get at an Almond Joy in a vending machine that's behind three Milky Ways without having to pay for four candy bars - and they couldn't get in the door). Maybe this would give me an excuse to try!

BTW, what's the fifteen bucks for?

--I'm outta here like Vladimir! -Alan

| "What's this? This is ice. This is what happens to water when it gets | | too cold. This? This is Kent. This is what happens to people when they | | get too sexually frustrated." | | -Val Kilmer, "Real Genius" |
DJ TaglineAlan Sepinwall

In article , [email] (Alan Sepinwall) writes...

Did George ever get the Almond Joy??? [curious minds seek the knowledge!]

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Jeffrey Allan MillerDJ Tagline

[email] writes:

Jerry was with George and got some Junior Mints from the machine, but George had to wait for his Almond Joy, never actually getting it.He probably waited as two people bought Milky Ways and then the third person came up to buy a Milky Way, but while at the machine the guy asked his date what she wanted. She wanted an Almond Joy--the last Almost Joy in the Machine. George ends up in a fight with the guy, gets hurt, and goes to the hospital. He is put in the room with his mother and requests a spongebath. The pretty female nurse comes in to give it to him (with his mother in the same room) but she is called away and is replaced by the male nurse. While this all takes place, we see that his mother is reading Glamour magazine.

Meanwhile Kramer decides that he needs his lucky jacket back. He goes to the Cubans to try to trade for it back, but they tell him that they traded it to a guy at the Pakistani Embassy for a 1954 Mickey Mantle card (whose very mention cause Kramer to cringe.) Kramer then goes to the Pakistani Embasssy where he sees a man wearing his Jacket--it is Babu. He fights for the Jacket and ends up in the hospital--where he gets a spongebath from the girl.

But where is Lainey?

Evan GolubDJ Tagline

In the episode about the Candy Bar, how's this for an ending? George is waiting around during the entire episode, we cut to him every now and then and see him watching the people buy candy. Everytime they buy something other than the ones blocking his bar, he gets one of the George looks of frustration, walks away, then right back, followed by a cut to another scene.

At the end of the episode, the last bar in front of his is bought, he goes to buy his, when someone pushes in front of him, buys it, and walks away.

	George : "We're living in a society you know!!!!"
	[Title:Executive Producer Larry Davis]
	[Ending credits with Comedy-Over]
	Jerry : "What makes the vending machine fill-it-upper people decide
 	  to put a totally different candy bar Behind several other Different
	  candy bars."

-Evan Golub-

Little NemoEvan Golub

I remember a couple more Schoolhouse Rocks, sort of. There was one where a guy (named Zach, maybe?) sang a song about jobs and one funny one about physical fitness that had the line "The doing pushups in Peoria, they're jogging in LA!" There was also some things like "I hanker for a hunka cheese," and "Don't drown your food," and "Nutty Gritty, It's a snack you can eat," and the one that showed how to make popsicles with an ice tray. I don't know if these are SHR's or not but they're in the same vein.

Alan SepinwallEvan Golub

<Plenty of funny stuff deleted>

I like the idea, and it definitely seems like something Larry David & Co. might write, but there's one problem: "The Bill Song" is way after Jerry's time.

All the "Schoolhouse Rock stuff started airing in the late Seventies, around 1977 or so (at least, that's the first time I saw them, and I'd been addicted to Saturday Morning Cartoons for years). Figuring Jerry is about 37 or so now (I haven't checked the FAQ recently to see if it has his age), he would have been 21 by the time they started airing, and Jerry just doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would have kept watching cartoons right through college. Which means, he would never have heard "The Bill Song" (or "Conjunction Junction" or "Lollly, Lolly, Lolly, Get your Adverbs Here" or any other classics).

Kramer, on the other hand........

-I'm outta here like Vladimir! -Alan

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Evan GolubAlan Sepinwall

Well, the reason I tend to differ on Jerry is.....

	Jerry:"Overture, Curtain Lights, THis is it, We'll hit the heights,
		And Oh What Heights We'll Hit, On With The Show This Is It"
	Elaine:something like "It's scary that your entire knowledge of
		culture comes from Bugs Bunny."

I would think that he was watching cartoons back in 1974 when SchoolHouse started, and it is currently on again and follows The Bugs Bunny & Tweety Show here. I could be wrong of course. (NTTAWWT)

-Evan Golub-

Ted SchuerzingerEvan Golub

For "Schoolhouse Rock" songs, you forgot "Electricity". :-)

--Ted Schuerzinger [email] This .sig will self-destruct in five seconds.
felipeTed Schuerzinger

All the ones I can remember:" Electricity Just a Bill Conjunction Junction L-Y Lolly(get your adverbs here) Three Ring Circus Interjection Interplanet Janet Shot heard round the world.

hmm...which ones did i miss?

Laurie Marshallfelipe

In article [email] () writes:

What about 'A noun is a person, place, or thing', Is this the title of it and if not does anyone know the official title?

Laurie Marshall Wayne State University Detroit, Michigan

Paul Brinkleyfelipe

In article [email] () writes:

The Preamble Song ("We the people...")

There's one about adjectives where the singer says a lot of stuff really fast, but I don't remember the name. I believe there's one about nouns, and a separate song for pronouns. I can't for the life of me ever remember any song about verbs, though.

One about the number 8, featuring an ice skater...I also remember one for the number 11, including how easy it is to multiply by 11. :)

Paul Brinkley [email]
Tom RoyerPaul Brinkley

In article [email] (Paul Brinkley) writes:

The Preamble Song ("We the people...")

   There's one about adjectives where the singer says a lot of stuff
   really fast, but I don't remember the name.  I believe there's one
   about nouns, and a separate song for pronouns.  I can't for the
   life of me ever remember any song about verbs, though.
   One about the number 8, featuring an ice skater...I also remember
   one for the number 11, including how easy it is to multiply by 11.
   :)
   Paul Brinkley
   [email]

For nouns, it was that "A noun is a person, place or thing" song For pronounds, it was "Now I've got a friend named Rufus Xavier Sasperilla..." and for verbs, "I can take a noun and bend it... VERB! That's whats happenin'"

-Tom Royer [email]
Laurie Marshallfelipe

In article [email] () writes:

Does anyone know the lyrics to some of these SchoolHouse Rocks. I use to love these when I was a kid and use to go around singing them all the time.

I think the Bill song went something like:

      'I'm just a bill, yes I'm only a bill
       and I'm sitting here on capital hill.
       Well, I'm lose in committee......'

And at the end of the song the Bill finally became a law. I remember feeling so sorry for the poor Bill, I got so excited when you became a Law.

All I can remember from Conjunction-junction is something like:

     'Conjunction-junction what's your function?
      Connecting up words, phrases and sentences...'

And from 'A noun is a person, place or thing': (I remember this one best for some reason)

   'Oh, I took a ferry to the Statue of Liberty
    My boyfriend was waiting there for me.'

something.. something .. something..

    '... And in the middle of June is started to snow,
     Oh I took a ferry to the Statue of Liberty.'
    'Oh, Mrs. Jones is the lady that lives next door to me.
     She had a dog that use to bark at my brother and me.
     I gave that dog a big fat bone and now
     he barks at Mrs. Jones
     Oh Mrs. Jones is the lady that lives next door to me.'
   'A noun is any person you may know: like a boy or Mrs Jones.
    is any place that you can go: ................
    any thing that you can show: like a bone or a statue
    A noun is a person, place or thing'

What I remember from interjection goes something like this:

     'Excitement....(something goes here, don't know it is'
      or Sad.....aaaawwww
      Disappointment....darn, we lost the game
      or glad.....Hurray, we won.'

Can anyone add onto these or any other ones? Ever since we started this topic I've been trying to remember the words. It's driving me crazy.

Laurie Marshall Wayne State University Detroit, Michigan

Tom StantonLaurie Marshall

Another school house rock song is THE Preamble to the constitution which sings the words of the preamble.

nothing too creative, NTTAWWT

Julie DoBiasTom Stanton

I remember having to memorize the Preamble in high school. Just about eveyone in the class began singing the "Preamble Song" from schoolhouse rock. I'm glad to see it back on TV!

Julie

Swag ValanceLaurie Marshall

I think that's "Hooking up phrases and words and clauses..." but I could be wrong.

greg | "You want a mystery? Pick up the phone book ... [email] | and tell me what are all these people doing living yeah, "PEACE" this | around here?" -- Howe Gelb
Jan PenovichLaurie Marshall

Why are all these SchoolHouse Rock posts (that don't even mentions Jerry and the gang except in the Subject line) being posted to the seinfeld newsgroup?

TTFN, * [email] jan penovich * Encore Computer Corp., Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Karen Kurotsuchifelipe

In article [email] () writes:

There was a whole series for multplication tables 1 - 12. I can't remember them all, but the "2" was about Noah's Ark, and "9" was "Naughty Number Nine."

Karen Kurotsuchi [email]
Alan SepinwallEvan Golub

You know, you're right about that one. My fault. I forgot about the "bugs & Tweety" exchange (NTTAWWT!) Plus, on second reflection, Jerry does strike me as the type who watched a lot of cartoons. Remember that conversation he had with George about what Aquaman's powers were?

--I'm outta here like Vladimir! -Alan

P.S. TRIVIA QUESTION: What book did Art Vandelay write?
		      (Hint, it's in the episode where George gets a job
			at Elaine's publishing firm and gets fired for
			sleeping w/the cleaning lady (NTTAWWT))
S. A. WilsonEvan Golub

In article <1rrdfo$[email]: [email] () writes: :All the ones I can remember:" :Electricity :Just a Bill :Conjunction Junction :L-Y :Lolly(get your adverbs here) :Three Ring Circus :Interjection :Interplanet Janet :Shot heard round the world. : :hmm...which ones did i miss?

Does anyone have the words for these?

WOW, I finally got to see THE episode, damn funnest thing on television. Alas, my VCR screwed up and I was unable to keep it for posterity.

Someone mentioned Seinfeld going into syndication, any word as to if this is so and when?

Sally--

We are the roses in the garden, beauty with thorns among our leaves. To Pick a rose you ask your hands to bleed. What is the reason for having roses when your blood is shed carelessly? It must be for something more than vanity [10,000 Maniacs] ##### [email]
david n monackS. A. Wilson

In [email] (S. A. Wilson) writes:

I don't have the lyrics, but my brother has them all on video. He wrote to ABC for the address of the company that sells them on two tapes. I think they're called Grammar Rock and History Rock. Sorry, I don't have ABC's or the video company's address.

David Monack e-mail: [email] Some say that ignorance is bliss, but I wouldn't know.
Renee Cronkdavid n monack

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ok, I happen to have the set on tape. My friend got them from his friend who is a schoolteacher. Interestingly enough, some of the ones from tv didn't make the tapes, like "Little Twelve Toes" which left my friend seriously bummed. I don't remember having seen some of them and I don't know if that's because some weren't aired much or because my five year old brain didn't understand them. So here's the list of the ones on the tapes. For those of you who are desperate, check your local Blockbuster Video in the kids section, the one near my house has a couple of the tapes.

MULTIPLICATION ROCK Two Elementary, My Dear Three Is A Magic Number Four Legged Zoo Five, Ready or Not, Here I Come I've Got Six Lucky Sampson Seven Figure Eight (One of my personal favorites.) The Naughty Nine My Hero Zero

GRAMMAR ROCK A Noun Is A Person, Place or Thing Verb: That's What's Happening Lolly, Lolly, Lolly, Adverbs Here Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla [Pronouns] Unpack Your Adjectives Conjunction Junction Interjections (Another favorite)

HISTORY ROCK No More Kings [The Revolution]...(subtitle theirs) The Shot Heard 'Round The World Preamble [The Constitution] Fireworks [Declaration Of Independence] I'm Just A Bill [How Laws Are Made] Elbow Room [Westward Expansion] Mother Necessity [Industrial Revolution] Sufferin' 'Til Suffrage [Women's Rights] The Great Melting Pot

SCIENCE ROCK Body MAchine [Body Needs] Then Not-So-Dry Bones [Human Skeleton] Telegraph Line [Central Nervous System] Circulation [Circulatory System] Victim of Gravity [Law of Gravity in The Universe] (Sung by The Tokens!) Weather Electricity [Uses of Power and Electricity] Energy [Energy Conservation] Interplanet Janet [Solar System]

A warning to the weak of stomach, the videos are "hosted" by Chloris LEachman and a group of the most obnoxiuos kids since the Barney gang.

Excuse the spelling errors, I'm late for class.

Renee

Pat Inglisdavid n monack

Interplanet Janet she's galaxy girl Solar system unit from a future world She travels like a rocket with her comet team There has never been a planet Janet hasn't seen.

The only reason I know this is that a band I play in uses these lines in a song.

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Tom StewartEvan Golub

Someone mentioned that they couldn't for the life of them remember any SHR about verbs.

Of course I can't remember the title, but the one about verbs was about the superhero Verb, and all the things he could *do*.

Does the phrase "VERB! That's what's happening!" ring a bell?

unknownEvan Golub

Se> In article [email] (Evan Golub) Se> writes: >

The Bill Song idea.

Se> I like the idea, and it definitely seems like something Larry David & Se> Co. might write, but there's one problem: "The Bill Song" is way after Se> Jerry's time.

Se> All the "Schoolhouse Rock stuff started airing in the late Seventies, Se> around 1977 or so (at least, that's the first time I saw them, and I'd Se> been addicted to Saturday Morning Cartoons for years). Figuring Jerry Se> is about 37 or so now (I haven't checked the FAQ recently to see if it Se> has his age), he would have been 21 by the time they started airing, Se> and Jerry just doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would have kept Se> watching cartoons right through college. Which means, he would never Se> have heard "The Bill Song" (or "Conjunction Junction" or "Lollly, Se> Lolly, Lolly, Get your Adverbs Here" or any other classics).

Actually, the Bill Song is copyrighted 1974. And according to an episode that was filmed for the first full season (but aired the next season) Jerry was 36. That was 2 years ago so he is now 38 which means he was 19 when the Bill Song first came on.

Now, how can you say that "Jerry doesn't strike you as the kind of guy who would have kept watching cartoons right through college"? This is a guy whose life revloves around ceral and Superman. This is a guy who when Elaine asked when the overture would be, started singing the theme song to Bugs and (fill in the blank). This is a guy who put a Tweety PEZ dispencer on Elaine's leg. This is a guy who was watching Tiny Toons (but that was in the Contest so you could argue that that doesn't count). I think that the real Jerry still watched cartoons but probably the classic ones that are on the cartoon network, not the garbage that is on Saturday mornings now.

BTW, how many of you remember School House Rock? What are your favoraits in each category?

Ross ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 #! rnews 2

Tony Rice P885Evan Golub

Hope this isn't too far off the subject but . . .

My wife and I were discussing how cartoons have gone to hell and how the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle/GI Joe generation wont know their adjectives, conjunctions, or anything about womens suffrage, the bill process or any other topic that School House Rock has drilled into the brains of the under 30 crowd.

However . . . while watching Saturday morning cartoons this past weekend I saw the adjective one!! Its the one where the girl goes off to camp and has to describe her adventures with, you guessed it, adjectives. Schoolhouse Rock is still around!!! There is hope for the education of America's youth.

Tony R. Rice Bell Northern Research Systems Development Environment Support Research Triangle Park, NC [email] " GO " Opinions are my own, & don't [email] HOKIES! reflect those of BNR or NT