The Mango Episode

I'm having an argument with my wife over the meaning of something said by Elaine's black co-worker in this episode.

Elaine asks her whether she's "faked it" before.

The co-worker responds with something like: "Yeah, like if we go to a Broadway show. If we had really good seats."

The audience laughs, Elaine nods and mouths "Well"

Then the co-worker says, "Well it's enough already and I just want to get some sleep."

Now, my questions are:

Is the co-worker giving two examples of when she fakes an orgasm:

1. When her husband/boyfriend takes her to a Broadway show and they have really good seats, to reward him.

• When she's tired and fakes an orgasm so she can go to sleep.

OR, is the co-worker giving one example of when she fakes an orgasm:

1. They go to a Broadway show with really good seats and when they get home and have sex, she fakes an orgasm so she can get some sleep.

OR, is there a double meaning having anything to do with race or money, in that the co-worker doesn't realize that Elaine is talking about orgasms but thinks she means "faking" being rich, upper-class, etc., when she goes to a Broadway show and has really good seats, but then the "faking" makes her tired and she just wants to get some sleep.

PLEASE HELP ME WITH YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS

(yes I watch Seinfeld too much)

Please e-mail me in response. I don't check the newsgroups often.

Thanks.

l think the co-worker is giving one example, i.e. they've had a good night out and now she wants to get sex out of the way quickly to get some sleep.

My initial common sense reaction was that she was giving two examples, but the way the conversation goes it is at least a bit clouded.

I was familiar with the conversation but I had to go to the tape library in order to be precise in answering the question. The first time I reviewed the tape it was unclear exactly what the co-worker meant. The second time I reviewed the tape I paid closer attention to voice inflection and especially body language. After the second viewing it is clear that she was giving TWO EXAMPLES of times when she faked it. Her body language (eyes, hands) clearly indicates that she is thinking about a second reason before answering. She is clearly (IMHO) verbalizing a new thought and not a continuation of the previous answer. Well, that's what I think...I hope it helps. Did you say which side of the argument you were on?

Not possible.

I watch too much also, but I don't deconstruct it as much as you do <grin>

My take was the coworker was giving two examples. Faking as a reward, and faking when it's enought already. I didn't pick up on anything deeper than that and I have trouble with the concept of "faking it" connected to pretending to be rich. I'm not sure that's too common.

Great call-back at the end of the show when Kramer admits to faking it, "cause, ya know, it's enought already and I just wanna get some sleep. . . ."

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