Seinfeld has truly lost it. It used to be that each of the four characters was involved in something that actually pertained to real life. And although they seemed unrelated during the show, the Seinfeld writers somehow tie it all together. Not anymore, and tonight's episode proved it. Except for the silly ending where the Cubans (dominicans) hold up a plane preventing Elaine from watching Lunch Bag (I forgot what it was called), there were nothing that tied these four stupid, unrealistic stories together. Kramer getting Cuban's to roll canoles and George saying that he'll burn himself because some guy who looks like him is dating a good looking girl? The english patient bit was cute, but got old quickly. Jerry and his father's back breaking family, too, was old before it even began. I'm sorry Jerry didn't adhere to his original words of only keeping the show running for 5-6 years. It is losing all the BRILLIANT charm that it had.
3.13 "The English Patient"
I respect your opinions, and you made some good points, escept you must have forgotten the fact that yes, they did tie together...Jerry ruindedd a family and their buisness, so he got Kramer's Dominicans (who had to get work or he was afraid they would hurt him), to work at the buisness, but they screwed up and ended up hurting (thus advancing) George's rival, who he had beat since she had met with him (Neal) to break up with him, until he was burned...the Dominicans were sent running, and hijacked the plane, thus foiling Elaine's plan to see "Sack Lunch" again...see, just pay attention <g>
TSalloum wrote:
Does anyone else think the *way* they tie stories together is very different these days? I feel like they take 3-4 things that have nothing to do with each other and find some ridiculous way to slam them all together. The tie-in in "The Pie" is brilliantly clever; last night's and others felf very forced.
It's possible I am just being nostalgic and that in actuality the tie-ins are not that different; I don't know. But my reaction is definitely different for some reason.
-Jen
The show was great and all the stories worked well together! (And I use my exclamation points very carefully). For those of you who did not see The English patient, the guy was bandaged exactly like Neil in the show. It was perhaps the best show of 97.
Do you know that story "The Emperor's New Clothes." Well the American public's reaction to The English Patient has the same idea. I have a good taste in movies. Films take up a big part of my life and I have to say that The English Patient sucked. How everyone in Seinfeld loved the English Patient might have shown how America is obsessed with the movie. Elaine, a solid character, was supposed to should the few who were not intimidated by the film. In addition, I think Fargo a superb film and should have won the oscar.
I agree with you about The English Patient. I didn't think it "sucked", it was good, but it was not Oscar material...I have talked to NOBODY who actually liked the film, and I talked to a wide variety of people who have seen it...ranging from 15 to 70 years old...Personally, I found the film much to overdramatic, unrealistic, drawn out, long-winded, and felt that it couldn't decide where it was going...Only the ending was in any way impressive, and even at that, I found myself wondering how this could ever possibly happen...anyways, ironically enough, I'm about to go watch Fargo...I have also seen Shine and thought that it was one of the best films ever made...definately deserved all the awards it was nominated for...unlike The English Patient (both of which I saw before the nominations were announced in February, and before the Seinfeld episode was aired)
Did you see Shine, by any chance?
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It seems like the writers almost feel obligated to tie them together. I personally don't care if they do or not, but this season you really have to extend your disbelief to buy the crazy tie-ins.
Still, I don't think a bad tie-in is a good reason to not like an episode. All too often I hear people say, "That episode sucked because they didn't tie it together!". I thought the point of the show was that it was funny...
Also, a lot of the older episodes didn't tie the plots together, but nobody is complaining about those. It isn't just particular to this season.
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I agree. For instance, George's plot didn't tie in in "The Implants" and in "The Wife" the plot didn't tie up at all, but both were great episodes. Also, just as a bad tie-in is no reason to dislike an episode, a good tie-in is no reason to like one. "The Pothole" and "The English Patient" tied all their plots together, but the episodes themselves were unfunny, mean, and hardly clever.
I think that the tie in for the English Patient episode was great! I knew they would manage to do it somehow, but by the first commercial I was a little concerned - I didn't think they'd be able to do it - but the way they managed to tie in such varying story lines was some of their finest work. Jason
I thought tonight (3/13) episode had so much promise, with that bit with Jerry and Elaine on the subway talking about animated concession stand snacks, etc. It was one of those perfect "nothing" moments i miss so much. But it all went downhill from there. I thought the English Patient/Lunch Sack story was the lamest of all. Bor-ing.
Go a little easy. It had some funny moments (certainly more than last "The Keychain"). Elaine's freakout was something I'd missed- that rude nasty energy that made the show fun. Nobody seems to have much *pep*, especially George. They're all looking for something to do since Larry left. Let this season ride out, let 'em review the tapes, gasp in horror, and L.D. will be back on in no time.
I hope.
I wouldn't say that Seinfeld has completely lost it, since they did come up with a good episode like The Susie. But tonight, I must say that I was quite disappointed. I'm usually very attentive when I watch the show, but tonight, my thoughts kept wandering... This season is pretty much hit or miss...
--Anna
"When they pull that needle out, I let the expletives fly!!!" --Cosmo Kramer
I really don't understand why people complain when the stories don't "all end up tying together" by the end. Frankly, I was finding that plot device very predictable. I much prefer the way the writers have been handling it this season which is to have some elements of each story intertwine. But tying up every episode in a neat little bow like in seasons six and seven was becoming a tired and overused way of storytelling.