The Essence of "Seinfeld"

Nov 12, 199712 posts by 10 posters
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Rodney E.

The single statement that defines "Seinfeld" can be summed up in this,

"Did you ever notice..."

The show's origins are based on recognition humor. Basically, Jerry and Larry David wanted to portray how Jerry got material for his standup by relating surreal, but believable, real life experiences. That's where the opening monologue set up the premise of what the viewer was going to see. To tell you the truth, this and last seasons' storylines have gotten totally away from Jerry's brand of comedy. To wit:

What Everyman(or woman) can relate to: waiting in restaurants, wandering through parking garages, waiting for a ride from dull parties, ugly babies, pee stains on furniture, the tension/relief of onanism, flying first class vs. coach, shirts that go through laundry in just the right way, running out of toilet paper, staring a little too long at cleavage, and many other situations that were the 1989-1994 "Seinfeld."

What Everyman cannot relate to: blood used as engine lubricant, deals and "little surgical equipment" for squirrels, talk show sets in their living rooms, bellybuttons that go "Helloooo", late-night show animal experts in their living rooms, and other inane suppositions that have (thankfully) passed my memory.

I understand that whining about plots is getting annoying to this newsgroup. So I propose we stop criticizing the writing and shift blame on the "Seinfeld" modus operandi. Remember "The Junior Mint?" That situation was gso over-the-top, yet the show is considered a classic by Seinfeld "purists." Why? Because it started off innocently and progressed to a point of hilarity. If that plot were put in use this season, Kramer would've dropped the chocolate at the beginning of the show and we would've sat through the remaining 27 minutes with Kramer probably chasing the recovering patient around, asking for his candy back.

So my two key factors for the show's future success: winsome realism and subtle buildup.

In article , "Rodney E." wrote:

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I hate to post without adding much, but I have to say, very excellent point. I think you've hit on one of the subtle differences between the old "zany" episodes and the new ones.

Daniel Cohen [email]

the new ones are still good and thay have the same kind of comedy it just evolved like all liveing things

I would have to agree with you. Especially on the subtle buildup part. The old shows used to slowly build up to a climatic finale. Sometimes you wouldn't even see it coming.

One other thing that is missing with this season's shows is the connection between each of the character's plots. Before, Elaine's plots would interralate with Kramer or George's with Jerry's, etc. Lately, it seems everyone is on their own and it seems each is in their own mini-sitcom. Although, at times funny, it lacks the unity and realism of the previous episodes.

Just adding my two cents,

Rolando

JW3045Rodney E.

Really? The various books, magazine articles, and interviews I have read led me to beleive that Larry David had been the driving force behind the Seinfeld comedy machine for the first 7 seasons. My thoughts are that we HAVE been seeing Jerry's brand of comedy for these past two seasons. I realize the 'did ya ever notice?' thing is Jerry's bit, but the actual dark, humorous ideas that made the show so good the first seven mostly came from L.D.

As always, IMHO,

Jeff

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Dave

This is a beautiful article, Rodney. You are exactly right.

Justin T.

"Rodney E." wrote:

Justin:

Thanks. Just thought I'd provide you some backup in the "holy war" against the Sein-infidels who blaspheme the spirit of the show by blindly accepting this season's pap.

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Justin Tribble wrote in article ... > This is a beautiful article, Rodney. You are exactly right. >
chrisRodney E.

Meditation - "What is the sound of two hands patting two backs?"

Saying - "Those who can, do. Those who can't, critique."

What's that Seinfeld guy thinking? His show isn't funny at all anymore. We know what is funny. We know what is not funny.

Davechris

In , chris writes:

Harumph. Apparently, some of we do NOT know what is funny. [email] (Hammer nail here--> <-- for a new monitor.) (Remove XXXX to reply)
SloRodney E.

In article , "Rodney E." wrote:

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SloRodney E.
Neil Cohen wrote: > > I entirely agree with you. Here in the UK we're watching episodes from > 1993/4 - last week's was The Dinner Party - and they're really funny.