I just noticed tonight that George remarks that his score is still standing after ten years. How old do you figure George is at this time? If he is in his late 30's that would mean George was playing that Frogger well into his late 20's...
I thought Mario's was their highschool hangout???
Then again there is the possibility that I've gone right out of my mind...
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It you have, then I have too, cause I was wondering the same thing last night. According to...
http://www.videotopia.com/games.htm
..."Frogger" was released in 1981. In "The Library" we learn Jerry and George were in High School in 1971. (Can't stands ya!) Furthermore, Jerry and George are supposed to be the same age, and Jerry was born in 1954. That means he would have been playing Frogger at age 27 in 1981.
Then again it's only a TV show!!
Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada
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He never says he was in high school when they hung out there. Jerry and George were never alcoholics- which leads me to believe that instead of hanging out in bars, they hung out there.
On 24 Aug 2003 16:16:14 -0700, [email] (artex) wrote:
Very possible. It just seems like it was a very teen type of hangout. That they would be hanging out at that kind place in their late 20's speaks volumes for their adolescent like disfunction.
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Forget about dates, I think the biggest spoof in this ep is about the machine and the power. He has to have the machine running at all times in order for him to keep his high score....You mean to tell me in all these years the power never went out?! Hell, I lose my power at least 20 times a year due to storms!
And um, doesn't NY usually have blackouts? *cough* *cough* :o)
Ivy
On 19 Aug 2003 22:19:44 GMT, [email] (Seinfeld10) wrote:
Obviously this is not a 2003 episode. Or maybe Frogger had a battery to keep the high scores in CMOS chip..
<Or maybe Frogger had a battery to keep the high scores in CMOS chip..>
If it had a battery, then why did they need a new one......Not possible.
Ivy
On 20 Aug 2003 00:40:30 GMT, [email] (Seinfeld10) wrote:
The Frogger is the perfect example of how weak the writing had grown towards the end. They were running on fumes for all of Season 9 and quite a bit of Season 8.
IMO only though,
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What the frog are you talking about? The writing in this episode's genius!
"You can count on Slippery Pete." "Slippery Pete?" "Yeah, I don't care for the name, either. In fact, that's one of the things that we argue about."
"Fine. Steal the battery."
"All right, brace yourself, Lubeck. You are about to be launched, via pastry, back to the wedding of one of the most dashing and romantic Nazi sympathizers of the entire British Royal family!"
"Lubeck, you glorious titwillow! You just made me a profit of $190,000!"
"He looks like a Frog." "So do you."
Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 05:18:50 GMT, "Geoff Glave" wrote:
Lets not confuse a few irreverent lines with sharp, intelligent
comedic writing.
To me, these episodes reak of laziness on the part of the writers.
Can't figure out something smart for the character to say? Make him
say something outrageous or zany.
But I don't want to be too harsh, some of the the lines are very
funny. They just pale when compared to the brilliance of Seasons 1-4.Again, JMO. Joe
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Sounds to me, like you would say...kookie talk. I love the later seasons. Far more watchable than the earlier series. IMO of course.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:50:00 +1000, "Frogiswrong" wrote:
I'll agree that the later episodes are more... accessible to a wide audience. The earlier episodes are more refined and subtle. (I just happen to like that style much better)
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genius!
things
Slippery Pete *must* have been Peter Stormare's basis for the guy in Fargo.
"Oh, you mean the holes?"
"Where is pancakes house?"
Fargo was filmed & released before The Frogger episode, which originally aired Apr 23, 1998
Fargo was released March 8, 1996 http://www.imdb.com/Title?0116282 http://www.movietome.com/movietome/servlet/MovieMain/movieid-173
Bogospace wrote:
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Play Frogger online here: http://www.startinglinks.net/games/frogger.html
Just thought I'd share it with everyone.
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Thanks, that brought back memories. Good ol' C64...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:52:00 +0300, Noone wrote:
Oh I love my C-64... I still have two of them packed away in my closet somewhere. What a great gaming computer that was...
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the original frogger arcade game did not have a battery backup, although there are kits nowadays to convert it. you gotta admit, the george pushing frogger across the street bit was pretty damn funny, i don't care how weak people say the ep is.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:02:27 GMT, wrote:
Well, to each his own I suppose. I didn't find it even remotely funny.
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Joe writes:
there are kits nowadays to convert it. you gotta admit, the george pushing frogger across the street bit was pretty damn funny, i don't care how weak people say the ep is.
I too, thought it wasn't funny. I note that the vast majority of the bits I don't much care for seem to have George as a central character. A good deal of the Industrial Smoothing stuff is not funny. Kroger(?) is simply not a believable human being. I don't know if this George business is because of the writing or because Elaine and Kramer are just naturally more likeable characters. But Elaine, if you just read the scripts, has a pretty obnoxious personality, short tempered beyond belief, she doesn't suffer fools, *at all*. But JLD makes her lovable. Jerry plays the Bob Newhart role so he is on a different plane.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:53:15 -0700, "osmium" wrote:
All of the characters became less likeable as the series neared the end. (Post season 7) This was done to try and glory in just how anti-social and selfish these people were. It was a huge mistake to push the show in this direction IMO. If you watch the early episodes the characters are real. They are flawed at times and often put in mildly unusual situations, but they're not the flaky caricatures they were made into towards the end.
Joe
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I don't want to get on a rant or anything but...
Once Larry David left the show, the writing went into an entirely different direction. It became a "typical" sitcom. People yelled and screamed and insulted each other for the sake of "yucks." Ya, there may have been more howlingly funny lines post-David, but the show became another "dumb" sitcom instead of the smart, cleverly written show it had been (peaking in seasons 4 and 5, season 6 still pretty good. By season 7 David had lost his edge and he knew it, and the show started going down some,,, I am sure that's why he quit).
Seasons 8 (and to a lesser extent) 9 may well have contained more laugh-out-loud moments, but the show was no longer "special" or "different." It was dumb funny... and for most of its life it had been SMART beyond belief.
I am always amazed at people who cherish "The Butter Shave" and know it is many people's absolute favorite episode.... Allow me to dissect the funny moments in that show and illustrate why it's typical of the arguments I am trying to make:
-- Newman smelling the butter on Kramer and all of a sudden having cannibalistic urges-- Funny idea? absolutely! Stupid idea? Positively! Was Newman all of a sudden a person starving to death badly in need of a meal? No... instead we are treated to a moment of pure stupidity (actually a few times in this episode). Now, had they been stranded on a desert island, with no food, and this happened (any Bugs Bunny fans out there?), this moment becomes hysterical... because the logic is there. As it is here... it's a cheap laugh and nothing more.
--The Bania thing-- The whole time slot thief thing was a clever idea. Seinfeld had for years been known as a show that made hits for the shows that followed it, even tho they often were crap.
However, Bania the bad comedian was never a complete doofus until this show... They changed him in this show to fit the plot (something that happened a lot the last 2 seasons... Kramer constantly changed his personality to serve the needs of whatever the plot was that week). The writers simply went as dumb as they could to up the laugh level in the show. Typical of the writing the last 2 seasons.
Now, there were still a couple of clever, not-so-dumb, shows the last couple of seasons.... I always thought the Bizarro Jerry was pretty clever and not too dumb for example. And there was the failed experiment of the backwards episode, for which I at least give the writers credit for trying something different.
But, those were rare moments the last 50 episodes. The writers did a pretty damn good job at writing funny stuff... do not misunderstand me. The show was still funny... It just stopped being smart. And what drew me (and others) to it initially was that smartness. The fact that it was so consistently smart was so long was remarkable.... perhaps only 2 or 3 other shows can boast being a "smart" sitcom for more than a year or two (Barney Miller and Mary Tyler Moore come to mind).
It may have been funnier, but at a cost that was, to my mind, too steep.....
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:01:46 GMT, "craig" wrote:
You've summarized the shows decline quite well. Nice job.
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