Seinfeld

S05E05 The BrisretroDec 30, 1993, 11:08 PM ET3 months later8 posts by 7 posters
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Debate over characters' religious identities, particularly whether Kramer is Jewish and Elaine's religious background based on her actions in the bris episode.

8 posts
saturn

In article [email] (Jack Love) writes:

I disagree. Kramer was fighting against the circumcision....reaching out to grab the baby away, forcing the moile to cut the person holding the baby. I don't think his character is Jewish. Jerry & George clearly are, but Elaine sent out Christmas cards and didn't want the kosher meal, so she's not (maybe Catholic?)

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David Gregory Plattsaturn

In [email] (Shawna Rosen) writes:

Not only was she giving out Christmas cards, she was giving them to a "Father ________." Also (this is a stereotype, I know), he name is Elaine MARIE Benes. I have another possibility -- perhaps her parents are of Franch-Canadian descent, but her relatives moved to the states a long time ago? BTW, I still say Kramer's a WASP. Dave

Jack Lovesaturn

In article , Shawna Rosen wrote: [replying to me]

While it is true that Kramer fought against the circumcision (through typically bizarre Kramer behavior that was intended to be perceived as ridiculous), they made clear earlier in the episode that Kramer was Jewish. Readers of the other overly long thread these past few months will not be surprised that Jews can oppose circumcision.

George was intended not to be Jewish. No one in Hollywood would want the show to be tagged as too "ethnic"--look what happened to Brooklyn Bridge (where ironically some of the cast members playing Jews were *not* themselves Jewish. I think that the problem with George is that Jason Alexander got started using Jewish shtick and was unable to get the character out of that mold.

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David Gregory PlattJack Love

In [email] (Jack Love) writes:

Many gentiles are circumcised as well. It's no longer a clear indication of one's religious status, and it hasn't been for quite a while. Dave

Dan ShimoffChris Best

Not to sound offensive, but does how many gentiles do you own? Or should the question be, exactly what did YOU get circumsized that there is more than one? Are you an aborigine?

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Radio-boyJack Love

In article , [email] (Jack Love) writes...

	The thing about George's character is, it's Woody Allen.  Jason
Alexander has even admitted that when he auditioned for the part of George,
he was just "doing Woody Allen", so as the show progressed, he created a
Woody-esque role of the stereotypical Jewish neurotic New Yorker.
	Of course, new he'll have to change from Jewish shtick to Latvian
Orthodox shtick!

Mike Vago [email]

"Ever notice that George Herbert Walker Bush "Let's piss off everyone and rearranges to Huge Berserk Bagel Thrower?" go back next year!" - Dave Barry - Jim Kelly

Ellie Presnersaturn

DS> Not to sound offensive, but does how many gentiles do you own? DS> Or should the question be, exactly what did YOU get DS> circumsized that there is DS> more than one? Are you an aborigine?

er...i think it was a play on words (sort of anagram): gentiles=genitals

i think.

EP

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