Art Vandelay

In article , [email] (Gary Russel /ADVISOR L. FAUSETT) writes:

Re: what Art Vandelay imports/exports.

How many people watching the show just shouted out "latex" at your T.V.

Remember the great episode with the unemployment lady, and George tells her he's got a job at Vandelay Industries but he gives here Jerry's home phone number. As the show progresses Kramer and Elaine are sitting on the sofa, Jerry steps out, and George is in the bathroom. Kramer answers the phone, and says there's no Vandelay Industries here, Elaine tries to stop him, and George comes running out of the bathroom with his pants around his ankles, falls flat on his face in front of the door, and Jerry just walks in and sees this. A very hysterical moment.

I guess George was doing #1 too, because he had his shirt on. =) =)

This might be old news to some, but I read an article in this week's TV Guide about the actress who played the lady who got her bread stolen by Seinfeld.

She was called back by Seinfeld to film another episode which airs this Thursday!

Greg

In [email] (Gregory

was it your TV guide, or did you just pick it up on the subway?

-fries

[email] (Gregory Kam) wrote:

...and this one was another lousy episode. The only funny thing that happened was when the show was already over when Kramer and the Cable guy hugged.

Luis G

What! Elaine was working her special kind of magic! She made Marisa Tomei look like an old boot.

Elaine, you are with me in my dreams....

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I liked it. For one thing, George and Elaine hadn't decided beforehand what Art Vandelay imports/exports.

GR

The thing I didn't like about the impeachment episode was that Jerry's dad suffered for Jerry's sins. How come what goes around comes around for everyone else, but the worst punishment that ol' "even Steven" got was that his dad was punished?

Sean

On 10 Feb 1996, Sean Vanderfluit wrote:

And how bad does Jerry feel? Thanks to his mugging a marble loaf from an old lady (to help George), buying his parents a Cadillac, and taking them to the diner after six, just as everyone else was leaving, they were ostracized from their neighbors.

What I liked (and I wish NBC hadn't cropped) is the Nixon impersonation Morty did just before he got in the car!

What I wonder.... Is it the end of things (the last straw) between George and Susan? (I hope so, because Heidi Swedberg deserves a better role.) Is it a new beginning for Jerry and Elaine?

What sins? All he did was buy his dad a Cadilac, which he had always wanted, with some extra money he had made at a stand-up job.

He mugged the old lady. If he hadn't have done that, his father would have skated.

Paul

Jerry probably suffers more than his father because he has to live with the guilt that he was the cause of his father's impeachment.

Mary Ellen

Actually Jerry did suffer more because his parents moved in with him.

I don't think I've ever really heard Jerry own up to the fact that he was responsible. But that Cadillac probably makes it all O.K.

JPM

I never understood whether Jerry really did mug her or not, and if so, why. I was in a fantasy camp the time the scene was first shown (I think) but then it was seen in the recent flashback too.

Em

In article , [email] says...

I'm not sure because I didn't see the episode myself, but I heard that the woman that Jerry stole the marble rye from was the same woman who gave the deciding vote on impeaching Jerry's father who was the president of his retirement community. That was probably the reason for the flashback.

About 4 episodes prior, Jerry stole the marble rye from an old woman walking down the street. It all started when George and his parents ate dinner at Susan's parents' house. Frank & Estelle brought a marble rye which was left untouched, so Frank took the loaf home. George was mortified and afraid Susan's parents would notice it missing. So he planned to replace the rye during a subsequent dinner at the parents' apartment. Jerry's mission was to purchase the rye and toss it up to George in a 2nd story window once George was in the apartment. An old woman ahead of Jerry in line at the bakery purchased the last such loaf; after refusing Jerry's monetary offer for the loaf, Jerry simply grabbed it from her hands and ran away. /GW

I thought it was fine latex products.

No, that was Vandelay Industries.

Hey it is Ash here, does any body know, who Art Vandely is? Does that person really exist in the show? By the way did you see the look on Seinfeld's face when he was running away with the bread in his hand?

In , [email] (Gary Russel /ADVISOR L.

Yeah, why didn't they just say LATEX?!?!?!???

(Answer: Because then they wouldn't have gotten caught!)

I thought the episode last Thursday night was terrific. Elaine warming to Jerry when she finds he's got $...Jerry's parents ostracized because of their opulent lifestyle (Cadillac)... George and Marisa Tomei (the fantasy on the couch scene was a classic!).... and of course the Kramer/Cable Guy stuff.

The episode was written by Jerry and Larry, coincidentally, and I think there's a lot of autobiographical stuff in there. I mean, as Jerry became a gazillionaire over the last 5 years, I'm sure he noticed how people began to treat him differently. The fact that he worked it into the show is awesome and realistic.

And the old lady with the bread.... What genius to bring her back to get Jery's Dad impeached. (In fact, "The Rye" was also a good episode). I haven't even seen Nixon yet, but the ending scene during the credits was a hoot! When Jerry's Dad waved to his former condo-mates, I was ROTFLOL!

Also, we finally received absolute confirmation that Elaine is indeed the AntiChrist. At first I thought that the hypothesis was stupid. Elaine? Beautiful, coquettish flirt that she is? The AntiChrist? Yes. Her superficial response to Jerry's $$ was a sad confirmation of the worst nightmare an American man can have: namely, the prized woman always wants a rich man to buy her a lifestyle of ease. Since most of us guys aren't rich like Jerry (and boy is he rich), we can't get the foxy babes. Thus, we're in hell, and Elaine represents and is Satan.

BTW, just kidding about the Elaine thing!

David

I taped last Thursday's episode, but, alas, only taped a half-hour when it was a full hour! Talk about Seinus-interruptus....

So, can someone give me a rundown on the conclusion of the show? I saw up until Elaine called Jerry with the "girlfriend" voice...

Thanks! TS

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Am I the only one who thought this was handled poorly? I think of Seinfeld as a show that doesn't under-estimate the thinking capacity of its audience (much like, say, the Simpsons) but lately they've been SPELLING things out for us way too much.

For example, when Jackie Charles said "... like a GLOVE!" Is it really necessary to *beat* us over the head with the OJ reference? Any of us who can think already got the joke -- heck, if you didn't catch the Johnny Cochrane similarities in the first Jackie episode you must be living in a cave.

Now in this episode, the insult is a different, but they still spelled out the bread-lady thing way too bluntly. It would have been much funnier to see Jerry's unusual reaction to seeing the old lady ("You look very familiar") and his uncomfortable get-away without cutting to the clip of the mugging immediately. It would've given the audience time to mull-over what was going on. I confess I didn't put two and two together and recognize the lady from the earlier episode, but they didn't give me a chance. If I had a few minutes to think about it (heck it *was* a 1 hour eposide!) I may have remembered -- there was a familiarity, I just didn't have time to place the character.

The flash-back ("Shut up you old bag!") should have only been shown when the lady was about to cast her vote to impeach Morty Seinfeld. It would have been much funnier, and truer to the spirit of the show that way.

In article , [email] says...

Hopefully, they will tie up the plotline about the girl who never changed dresses in a future episode, like with the rye-stealing incident...

The whole chase scene between Kramer and the cable guy was classic..And the hug at the end was great!

In , [email] (Sean Vanderfluit) wrote:

Well, I see Jerry's main purpose on the show to be a catalyst for other people to screw up. Every time George gets worked up about something, he tells Jerry about it and Jerry encourages him. Then George acts, and comedy ensues.

CMC> CMC> Re: what Art Vandelay imports/exports. CMC> CMC> How many people watching the show just shouted out "latex" at your CMC> T.V.

Yep. I did.

CMC> Remember the great episode with the unemployment lady, and George CMC> tells her he's got a job at Vandelay Industries but he gives here Yep..I great one that was.

CMC> Jerry's home phone number. As the show progresses Kramer and Elaine CMC> are sitting on the sofa, Jerry steps out, and George is in the CMC> bathroom. Kramer answers the phone, and says there's no Vandelay CMC> Industries here, Elaine tries to stop him, and George comes running out CMC> of the bathroom with his pants around his ankles, falls flat on his CMC> face in front of the door, and Jerry just walks in and sees this. A CMC> very hysterical moment.

	And Jerry says, something to the effect of,
	"and you want to be my latex salesman !!  "

... "I don't know how you guys walk around with those things!" ..Elaine ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

In article , [email] (Ned Canepa) wrote:

Did George have his shirt off when he came running out of the bathroom ? Just wondering ....

[email] (Martin Hussey) wrote:

No, he was wearing his shirt.

Matt

EC> I never understood whether Jerry really did mug her or not, and if so, EC> why. I was in a fantasy camp the time the scene was first shown (I EC> think) but then it was seen in the recent flashback too. EC> Yeah. He did. Not that there's anything wrong with that! ... "I don't know how you guys walk around with those things!" ..Elaine ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

Actually Jerry walks in and says "And you want to be my Latex salesman." Truely a great Seinfeld line.

Speaking of Vandelay Industries, I have a Vandelay Parking Sticker I got from someone on this newsgroup. Recently, a coworker asked me if the sticker was serious. I said, "It's serious baby, it's serious!"

Just thought you'd want to know.

where can i get a Vandelay sticker?? thanks

I got mine from Donna Tschetter. I don't know if she hangs out here these days.

In today's syndicated episode, George was asked what authors he reads for a job working at Elaine's workplace (a publisher?) and he couldn't think of any good authors so he says he reads Art Vandelay, a beatnik from the Village who wrote "Venetian Blinds". Maybe that's what he imports, and he exports latex? How many other Art Vandelay references have there been in the series?

-Ben

the Steakout episode was when it was first introduced... He's an architect...

Yes, I shouted "latex" also!

I did that, I was surprised when they said something else. Something dumb...

No, he didn't good point on the inconsistancies. But it's allowable, I mean, they have to be able to take some liberties. It's called comedic license. I mean, how many comedians do you think actually do half of the things they say they do?

How come everybody only remembers Art Vandelay as the leader of a latex empire? In the second show, "The Stakeout," Art Vandelay is first mentioned as an architect. Art Vandelay is a universal alibi, he can do any job that is needed to perpetuate a lie.

Zeppelin.

"Oh, its got cachet baby!"-- George