Since Merv Griffin's talk sho was done in California during the last several years of its run and ended in the early 1980s, it's unlikely that the leftover chairs and desk would be in a New York City trash bin in 1997. Maybe the leftover chairs were from the Pat Sajak show or Arsenio.
Merv's set wouldn't be there
S09E06 The Merv Griffin ShowliveNov 9, 19973 days later28 posts by 25 posters
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Fans debate whether Merv Griffin Show set pieces would realistically be available in a 1997 New York trash bin, with some defending the show's accuracy and others questioning the logistics.
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No, they were from Merv's show. Kramer wouldn't make a mistake like that, would he?
lesmiz#@juno.com (Marc Mandell) wrote:
Then where did "The Merv Griffin Show" sign that Kramer had on his set come frrom?
Bobby D. "Words are loaded pistols"
why would it not be there ?? why could it not be piled in a backroo of some studio? how do you know it was not from a NBC studio??
suspension of disbelief, look it up and use it.
On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, Marc Mandell wrote:
eternalwarrior wrote:
[re: Merv's set]
Exactly.
I do have to wonder why they chose Merv and thereby passed up a great opportunity.
First, Merv is obscure to a large part of Seinfeld's audience and even for those of us who remember his rather boring show, it's not a good source of parody.
What would've been funnier would be a parody of the Tonight show as hosted by Johnny Carson. With Kramer adopting Carson's mannerisms and Newman being the Ed McMahon sidekick, *that* would've been hysterical (can you picture Kramer in the Karnak skit?).
Also, Jim Fowler was a regular on the Carson show, not the Merv Griffin show. This leads me to believe that perhaps they *did* consider a Carson parody but perhaps Carson himself nixed it. He did carry considerable weight in NBC, perhaps he still does.
Rick
In , Rick writes:
I believe Jim Fowler was a regular on EVERYONE'S show. He, and the woman from the San Diego Zoo (I think her name was Joan Embry. Someone back me up or correct me), were all over the dial for quite a while.
There was a Simpson's Carson parody with Krusty the Clown as host. They showed him with Joan, there was a monkey sitting on his head, and his line was something like "Tell me again why they call this a 'urine monkey'. Ohhhhh."
This is very possible but, if he gave permission for the Simpson's parody, why would he mind it if Seinfeld wanted a crack at it?
MOORS!!! (The REAL best 30 seconds of Seinfeld!) MOOPS!
I seem to recall that Jim Fowler was a regular on the wildlife insurance show with the white haired dude. Further I do recall that Merv Griffin was a mob boss that made a fortune from gambling and pedalled his lame game shows on TV.
cheers,
Wayne
"throw another log on the fire, it's hot enough yet"
Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom with Marlin Perkins.
Wayne Hacker wrote:
I didn't say that...everyone please watch your cut and paste action...
Thanks WT
"if the truth will set you free and knowledge is power, what the hell am I doing watching so much TV?"
WT Pfefferle, Ph.D. ([email]) wrote:
And, as SCTV *did* indicate in their parody many years ago, he came across as very "queenish." Definitely a funnier guy to parody than Carson.
Joan Embry is correct.
No, I think it was because a "Merv" parody would be funnier. Carson was rather down to earth, something that just wouldn't work on Seinfeld. I don't think Carson would've minded poking fun at the old "Tonight" show. (BTW, if Carson really had that much clout, I understand Letterman would be hosting "The Tonight Show" now.)
That one would be way up there, yes. ("Who would hurt the bubble boy?")
It doesn't really matter, since the Seinfeld producers and writers have discontinued using the REAL WORLD as a base in which the show is set. The world use now I would call, "NBC Fantasy Land". Problem is, this "Fantasy Land" doesn't have any good rides.
Justin T.
lesmiz#@juno.com (Marc Mandell) wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Justin Tribble wrote:
Well said!!
In , Newman writes:
Yup. Well said, but not well thought out or well written. Once again, a personal opinion is presented as if factual and accepted by all.
I'm pleased with 'NBC Fantasy Land'. So what if the events could or couldn't happen in real life? Documentaries are reality based, and very informative, but they do not make me laugh. If a 'break from reality' is necessary, I consider it a refreshing change from the 'real world' episodes of past seasons.
I sympathize with those who don't like this season. While I laugh
my way through a wonderful Thursday evening, I know there are
those less fortunate who are simply taking notes on how much
they don't like it. If only there was some way to port my enjoyment
out to those who need it...
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(Remove XXXX to reply)On 12 Nov 97 15:10:32 GMT, [email] (Dave) wrote:
Well Said!
I couldnt agree more . sure i miss the stand up bit by jerry at the start of every episode , IMHO this season is as funny as the previous ones.... esp Merv's show episode or yesterday's dermatologist ep..... i think the season is picking up pace in terms of good shows.....i hope the next one abt trip to india is funny...
-chandra
In article , [email] wrote:
Yes. After all it is _fictional_ television.
yeah...and they wouldn't give a fake hip to a squirrel. it's comedy--not a documentary, silly. and for what it's worth, i thought that the episode was hysterical.
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Marc Mandell wrote:
On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, Marc Mandell wrote:
Personally, I doubt if they would keep a famous talk show set lying around for 15 years and then suddenly throw it in a dumpster. Kramer probably found some imitation of the Merv Griffin set (possibly used for a play or spoof or something) and mistook it for the real thing. That's how he thinks, you know.
Since we're talkin' about Merv (Merrrrrrrvin) as Arthur Treacher introduced him, did'ja ever notice on "Wheel of Fortune" the music they play when they show the prizes is Merv's old theme song. (Wheel is a Merv Griffin production). At least the last time I watched wheel which was a couple years ago.
Also the tape Kramer played brought back memories as it was the song that played when guests came on Merv.
Ivar
Let's get a grip on reality. Seinfeld is a fictional show. Anything can happen provided that the writers bother to write it. If you're looking for logic in a Seinfeld episode, you're definitely looking in the wrong place.
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One thing to consider would be that Carson's show was in California while Merv's was in NYC...it would be feasible to find Merv's set in the dumpster (although I doubt they would hold on to it this long - when did his show go off the air?).
David
The last syndicated "Merv"episode was taped in 1986...
David wrote in article ...
One thing to consider would be that Carson's show was in California while Merv's was in NYC...it would be feasible to find Merv's set in the dumpster (although I doubt they would hold on to it this long - when did his show go off the air?).
David
"Ronald J. Whalen" wrote:
Moms Mabley was a wonderful comedian who used to be a regular on the Smothers Brothers show in the 60s. I think she died in the 70s. There was a play about her in the 80s. The actress who played Bill Cosby's mother or mother in law played Moms.
Arsenio was taped in LA.