do the Cubs have a game scheduled for Tuesday?
I Wanna Know One Thing.............
Sep 14, 199813 posts by 8 posters
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Yup. But they won't preempt KOTH again. The record was broken, the final result is anti-climatic.
John Mosey wrote in article ...
And Sosa is in postion to break it again.
The local TV insert shows a St Louis Vs Chicago ballgame for Tuesday on FOX. The TV Guide says it will be the episode where Bobbly falls for an older woman.
In reality the only promise that the premire will be Tuesday is from the FOX network, and they don't have much credibility with me right now.
My guess is that FOX will bump KOTH again and show another game if Sosa is in a postion to break 62, otherwise they probably will rerun the McGuire game.
If no games or baseball show, then I guess they' show the Bobby episode. So much for the premiere.
I hope I am wrong, I want to watch it Sunday night.
Berry wrote:
But so what? The feat was to break 61. They aren't going to show every time one of them hits a home run now.
I suppose someone should tell you KOTH is on Tuesdays now.
John Mosey wrote: ] Berry wrote: ] ] :> Yup. But they won't preempt KOTH again. The record was broken, the final ] :> result is anti-climatic. ] ] : And Sosa is in postion to break it again. ] ] But so what? The feat was to break 61. They aren't going to show every ] time one of them hits a home run now.
So if he breaks it on Tuesday, he could well be the person who holds the record for the next thirty-seven years, whether it is anticlimactic to you or not. The "historic moment" of last week could be an obscure trivia question in years to come: "Who held the season home-run record for a week back in 1998?" That could be even more obscure than the question as to who held it for the preceding thirty-seven years, though "everyone" knows that Mickey Mantle held it before that. Still, it's Babe Ruth that they make movies about and name candy bars after (are they still selling the Cal Bar?).
] : I hope I am wrong, I want to watch it Sunday night. ] ] I suppose someone should tell you KOTH is on Tuesdays now.
The guy spent the previous four paragraphs talking about the broadcast on Tuesday. Your view of the broadcast schedule does not prevent the magic of the VCR from permitting him to watch it on Sunday night.
Sure, or on Wednesday (why do people in this group think baseball is only played on Tuesdays?), or both. The point is not who holds the record, it is who broke the old one. It was breaking 61 which was the "historic moment" not so much the final count. For example, Arron's HR record. People remember 715, but no one remembers 755.
whether it is anticlimactic to you
Well, McGwire still holds it, but technailly, no record can be set until the end of the season.
That could be even more obscure than the question as to
Except Mantle never held it, Roger Maris did.
Still, it's Babe Ruth that they
- Baby Ruth is not named after Babe Ruth.
2. They made movies about Lou Gerhig, Ty Cobb and several otehr players. What's your point. Ruth was a historic figure for more than 60 of his home runs.
John Mosey wrote: ] R J Valentine wrote: ] : ] But so what? The feat was to break 61. They aren't going to show every ] : ] time one of them hits a home run now. ] ] : So if he breaks it on Tuesday, he could well be the person who holds the ] : record for the next thirty-seven years, ] ] Sure, or on Wednesday (why do people in this group think baseball is only ] played on Tuesdays?),
Heck, _that_ question is *easy* to answer. It's because _King of the Hill_ is now scheduled for Tuesday nights in the U. S. of A., and this is after all alt.tv.king-of-hill, not alt.tv.obscure-baseball-trivia. It's also because the Season Premiere was scheduled last week, but was preempted by a baseball game wherein a record of sorts MIGHT be broken, that record having ALSO been broken by someone else within the week since. The Season Premiere has been rescheduled for tomorrow night, but the vagaries of broadcast-television funding make it at least conceivable that the Season Premiere (which is to say the first time in the history of the world that the episode will be shown to the general public) might be delayed yet again, so other people don't miss the historic minute again.
] or both. The point is not who holds the record, it ] is who broke the old one. It was breaking 61 which was the "historic moment" ] not so much the final count. For example, Arron's HR record. People remember ] 715, but no one remembers 755.
Ah, but what is the record to beat now. Surely someone remembers, and better yet remembers who set it. Hank Aaron's greatness is in keeping going, not in retiring when he broke the one record.
I do get your points, though.
] whether it is anticlimactic to you ] : or not. The "historic moment" of last week could be an obscure trivia ] : question in years to come: "Who held the season home-run record for a week ] : back in 1998?" ] ] Well, McGwire still holds it, but technailly, no record can be set until the ] end of the season.
Technically he broke it when he broke it. It may only be a footnote in the record books after the end of the season, however historic it was to the people who watched it being broken, but the record is broken.
] That could be even more obscure than the question as to ] : who held it for the preceding thirty-seven years, though "everyone" knows ] : that Mickey Mantle held it before that. ] ] Except Mantle never held it, Roger Maris did.
Says you. Did he do it in 154 games? Are you saying that Mickey Mantle never hit 60 home runs in a 154-game season, or are you merely saying he didn't _break_ Babe Ruth's record?
] Still, it's Babe Ruth that they ] : make movies about and name candy bars after (are they still selling the ] : Cal Bar?). ] ] 1. Baby Ruth is not named after Babe Ruth.
Was it named _before_ Babe Ruth? Is there a McGwire bar named after anyone? The Cal Bar was a good candy bar, though I haven't seen one lately. If whoever holds the record at the end of the season keeps up the good work, I'm all for getting him into the Hall of Fame. But reruns of old episodes of _King of the Hill_ will still probably hold more interest for me. I'm afraid I barely pay attention to baseball since the Dodgers left Brooklyn (and not all that much before then, the real historical moment being that one World Series).
] 2. They made movies about Lou Gerhig, Ty Cobb and several otehr players. ] What's your point. Ruth was a historic figure for more than 60 of his home runs.
So was Mickey Mantle. Lou Gehrig doesn't disappear because Cal Ripken broke one of his records, but Cal is the one to beat now. Who's going to be the one to beat for home runs after tomorrow night? And will we miss the first-ever showing of the Season Premiere yet again to find out? And if it's someone other than the current guy, how important was last week's "historic moment"?
Note that I wouldn't even consider disrespecting baseball fans by posting this question to alt.tv.baseball, because I know it is important to some people. I pose it only to those who watch _King of the Hill_ when they're not watching baseball on television. Heck, I'm not even suggesting that Hank, Dale, Bill, or Boomhauer would watch _King of the Hill_.
R J Valentine wrote:
MLB rules say you can;t hold a "most in season" record until the season is over.
Both. Mantle never his 60 in a season, ever. He hit 54 in '61. Maris had 61 in '61.
I don't believe so. It was named by a confectionary who's child's name was Ruth. This comes up all the time in the baseball circles.
Is there a McGwire bar named after
Time ran a story asking candy makers what they would put in a McGwire bar. Right now there isn't one, but there will be.
The Cal Bar was a good candy bar, though I haven't seen one
It was no Reggie Bar!!
Again, Mantle never hit 60.
John Mosey wrote: ] R J Valentine wrote: ] ] : Technically he broke it when he broke it. It may only be a footnote in ] : the record books after the end of the season, however historic it was to ] : the people who watched it being broken, but the record is broken. ] ] MLB rules say you can;t hold a "most in season" record until the season is ] over.
I don't dispute that. I merely state that the record stands broken, and SOMEBODY other than either previous record holder will be the new record holder at the end of the season. Whether it is the player of the "historic moment" that pre-empted last week's scheduled showing of the Season Premiere, or the player of the "historic moment" that could pre-empt tomorrow's rescheduled showing of the Season Premiere that ends up in the record books, two people have broken the old record for at least the 162-game game schedule (did they both break it for the 154-game schedule?). Meanwhile, all the people who couldn't wait for the evening news that night still can't be sure of having witnessed the history that makes the books.
] : ] That could be even more obscure than the question as to ] : ] : who held it for the preceding thirty-seven years, though "everyone" knows ] : ] : that Mickey Mantle held it before that. ] : ] ] : ] Except Mantle never held it, Roger Maris did. ] ] : Says you. Did he do it in 154 games? Are you saying that Mickey Mantle ] : never hit 60 home runs in a 154-game season, or are you merely saying he ] : didn't _break_ Babe Ruth's record? ] ] Both. Mantle never his 60 in a season, ever. He hit 54 in '61. Maris had 61 in ] '61.
How about World Series play? Seems to me I remember Mickey Mantle for home runs for SOME reason.
] I don't believe so. It was named by a confectionary who's child's name was ] Ruth. This comes up all the time in the baseball circles.
I'll believe it. I don't travel much in baseball circles, especially television-baseball circles. I think I've seen more live major-league games than I've seen television games. I could even see setting the VCR to record _King of the Hill_ to go see a live game. But then I'd get to see _King of the Hill_ later the same night.
] Time ran a story asking candy makers what they would put in a McGwire bar. ] Right now there isn't one, but there will be.
I'll wait until the end of the season to see what name gets put on it. I'll probably give it a try either way.
] : ] 2. They made movies about Lou Gerhig, Ty Cobb and several otehr players. ] : ] What's your point. Ruth was a historic figure for more than 60 of his home runs. ] ] : So was Mickey Mantle. ] ] Again, Mantle never hit 60.
And yet he was famous for more than his home runs.
In the long run, you are quite right that it will be the end of the season before we see who gets to hold the record, and it may be years before we see if either or both make the Hall of Fame (if they haven't already, that is). Meanwhile, I still want to see the Season Premiere of _King of the Hill_. Lucky us, we have primary elections tomorrow, too.
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The "official" story is that Baby Ruth is named after President Grover Cleveland's daughter, Ruth. Most people speculate that the official story is bogus and that it was in fact named after Babe Ruth.
See the urban legends page on the matter:
http://www.urbanlegends.com/products/baby.ruth/baby_ruth_candy_bar.html
On 14 Sep 1998 14:35:01 GMT, John Mosey wrote:
Sosa is also breaking a record. Wheather its a week or 30 years doesn't matter. A record is a record. right?
This is what I mean about baseball isn't history. If someone kills a world leader, and then someone else next week kills another world leader, the world doesn't ignore it just because it was done only a week ago. History is always history.
Then again, maybe race is involve. I don't know. This just goes into the huge pile of things I just don't get about sports.
In either case, I hope fox doesn't bump KOTH again. Especially when it should of happen the first time! (IMO only)
On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:57:39 GMT, [email] (Rob Merritt) wrote:
Not really - there's not a lot of tension when its been a week compared to 30 years. I guess its my sense of drama - maybe you should look at it that way?
Everything is history. This discussion is part of history. Sports are an important part of people's lives, there's nothing wrong with that (well, depending on how important). You can't spend your life without enjoying some entertainment, can you? Sports have an important place in the history of every country in this entire world - I don't understand how you can deny that.
Everyone wants to bring this up, why? What is the ultimate purpose to make this into something its not? If Sosa had been the first one to break 62 and he had a game on Tuesday that FOX could air when he was going to break the record, they would have done it. It so happened McGwire broke the record first, that's all.
They won't - I haven't heard anything from them about any preemptions.
Brad
[email] (Mark Jones) wrote:
Yes, but it's a night game in San Diego, which means it starts 2-3 hours after the KOTH episode is shown in the Eastern USA. FOX won't show a game that starts at 10:00 Eastern time, and they won't have the game moved back three hours just so they can show it (among other things, a 5:00 local start makes it that much harder for people planning to go to the game to get off work and make it in time).