This is most definately the best show, animation or otherwise, on the tv today.
Proof:
Hank tells peg he can't shoot. she turns away for a second and bites her lip to pull herself together. then she turns to him and says "I love you, anyway."
The NRA is in Washington line.
The guy with the eye patch jumping out into the firing lane to show everyone how good the kid did.
And the same guy giving the thumbs up, and his thumb has been blown off.
[email] (cecil) wrote:
Never saw Dale speechless before...
Jeff
On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:27:41 GMT, [email] (jmg) wrote:
That was my favorite line of whole show:
".......(long silence)............That's a thinker."
Says who? You? Ptth.
It's so like a rightwing crackpot to take a line like that out of context and use it as ill thought out bait for gun bashing. A gun is a tool, like anything else. If people walked around stabbing each other with wooden sticks, all the kooks out there would try to classify wooden sticks murder weapons. In reality, they're just sticks, and the only way they relate to murder is by the idiots who use them as such weapons. One could kill a person by running them over with a car, by bashing their head in with a golf club, by tossing them into an air vaccum chamber, by poisoning them, from stabbing them, to driving them nuts with rightwing rhetoric. Shall we ban cars, golf clubs, vaccum chambers, chemicals, knives and rightwing nuts now?
So what if they did glamorize it? What's wrong with children being taught how to properly use a gun over them buying one for five bucks behind some school in downtown L.A. and shooting up a liquor store? Kids should be taught how to use and how not to use a gun right off the bat, and last night's episode, albeit looking at the scenario from a comical standpoint, did exactly that. Television's job isn't to teach anything, actually. It's an entertainment medium, and that is all. Jumping on the internet and telling other viewiers how you morally object to the show and therefore won't watch it will only make you look like a sniveling boob. Different types entertainment only exist because people themselves is different. God forbid the day when extremists (a label best fitting for the ANTI-gun types) get their way and everyone becomes a clone of everyone else.
Big deal. What do you think humans did to survive for the last thousand years? They killed animals and ate them. Should we all starve to death now because you object to murdering animals? If the masses don't hunt, McDonalds and the other beef retailers will murder billions of cattle systematically to feed them. How does a different method of doing the same thing -- murder for food -- make one way wrong but not the other? You're totally irrational.
Kook!
--- Steve ---
Steve Carson wrote:
Steve, Steve, Steve. I agree with your entire post 100% except for your implication that it is the right-wingers who are for banning guns, etc. You've got it totally backwards my friend. The left-wing, liberal wackos are the gun-control freaks. You can't show me a right-winter who supports gun-control. They don't exist.
Jeff
Oops! Sorry, you're correct. Them them dang'ol politics there mayn they confuse y'up real bad'nall...
--- Steve ---
In article , [email](Johnny Lamar Rhyne) wrote: I may be going out on a limb here...
Maybe it's a reference to the Simpson's creator Matt Groieng's 'Life In Hell' character Binky?
Maybe it was Hank's doll as a child...I saw an episode of the Simpsons where Bart had this very doll.
An obscure reference?
On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, FIVE wrote:
I highly doubt it, since Life in Hell wasn't around when Hank was a child. Consider that Hank is about 40 now (or a few years younger than Matt Groening), which means those flashbacks probably took place in the late 1960s. I don't think MG started Life in Hell until the late 1970s at the earliest, so there's no chance that young Hank would have had a Binky doll. As for what "Binky" really is, that may have been the name of the pail Cotton alluded to.
--Jason
"I want my Binky back!" --young Hank Hill, "How to Fire a Rifle Without Really Trying" (5E01)
[email](Johnny Lamar Rhyne) wrote:
That was "I want my binky"... "binky" is a slang term used everywhere as far as I can tell, for a pacifier.
J
PS. Imagine having Cotton as your father and not ending up a total mess...
Wrong try again. Guns are for protection, and everyone needs to know how to operate it. Ignorance about a potentially dangerous device is not blissed, it will cost your in terms of the accident. I supposed you missed the part about the guy who lost both his thumb and eye? Gun safety, not gun ignorance is stressed in this episode. Second, people do hunt as a form of entertainment. You want to ban it, be my guest. But to blanket condem it is something we don't need.
Further more, how can you do a show about Texas life style and not touch on gun culture? Most people who are involved in the gun culture are usually introduced in the same matter as the episode, a father to son deal.
Be my guest, and don't let the door hit you on your way out...
Hunting is not ONLY a form of entertainment. You know...there are many, many people out there that like to eat something other than McDonald's crappy hamburgers. Speaking of which.. I just love it when people condemn hunters!! How do you suppose that nice little steak got in that sanitary, plastic wrapped package? Obviously, the cow had ta die...Come on people..get a grip.
|Second, people do hunt as a form of |entertainment. You want to ban it, be my guest. But to blanket condemn it is |something we don't need. |
Welcome to the United States.. GUNS ARE GOOD...GUNS ARE GREAT....etc
"Guns don't kill people...People kill people" no matter how hard it is for "tree huggers"/democrats to believe that..IT IS TRUE.
patty biegun wrote in article <
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| |The show glamourized guns, children owning guns, and the clear message |that hunting was OK and even good. People keep guns for two reason: to |protect themselves (in that casethey should be kept far from children) |and to kill our wildlife. | |Nissan and Nike should be ashamed to been advertisers on that show! |Don't they know that only 7% of the American popultaion hunts? | |Goodbye, Hank Hill, I will miss you. But, I know between shows you will |be out the woods blasting bambi to bits. And, is with all hunters, you |are no longer welcome in our house. | | | |
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In article , [email] says...
no, i think it was sponsored by nike and nissan
perhaps then, instead of writing (and reposting) this article, you should have hung your head in a toilet bowl and puked.
i believe the reason for hunting season in this and just about every other civilized country is to thin out the herd, so that they don't fall prey to starvation and disease. also money from licensing of hunters goes to pay for blah blah blah... you know all these things, you just want to project your repressed hostility onto gun owners. you just want to equate a favorite pasttime of MEN with sensless killing and violence. you girls are all alike! it reminds me of Gallager's great line: you know why women don't like to go fishing? cause you have to be quiet!
im sure you have on a pair of nike air's when you head to your step aerobics class in style in your new infiniti sedan.
i don't remember anything but targets (ok, they were targets of babmi) getting blasted to bits on that show. and people were getting penalized for hitting the good guys. that promotes responsible killing.
i, for one, will continue to watch. and if you're a bitch on the rag, or a doe, a deer, a female deer, don't come around my place during hunting season.
I tuned into Sanity FM when "Simon" <SimonSays@Another-World#.com > wrote:
Actually, it makes people who disagree with him think he's a total prick. With a big ol' empty bed.
In article , patty biegun wrote:
I'm surprised you didn't stop watching KOTH when Hank forced Bobby to smoke a whole pack of cigarettes (KOTH must "glamorize" smoking).....
or when Hank's father Cotton tried to get hookers for Bobby at a the Hotel Arlen like he tried to do for Hank years before (KOTH glamorizes prostitution and misogyny).....
I suppose you didn't even notice that Dale's wife obviously cheats on him with the American-Indian guy (does he have a name): (the show must glamorize marital infidelity in your eyes).....
Why don't you just stick to shows like "Family Matters" (the Urkel show) if all you want is PC diatribe.
By the way, I'm sure much more than 7% of the rural Texas population hunts.
Anyone who thought Sunday's episode was an endorsement of "guns" is just plain nuts. Ever hear of satire? The writers all had their tongues planted firmly in their respective cheeks while penning this episode.
Get a grip.
Dang ol', -N!
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I tuned into Sanity FM when noel@[address] (noel) wrote:
Thank you, Noel, I thought I was going nuts.
Let me aplogize for all these repeats. My server kept stalling my SENDs. Thought it was only sent once.
The show glamorized guns, children owning guns, and the clear message that hunting was OK and even good. People keep guns for two reason: to protect themselves (in that case they should be kept far from children) and to kill our wildlife.
Nissan and Nike should be ashamed to been advertisers on that show! Don't they know that only 7% of the American population hunts?
Good-bye, Hank Hill, I will miss you. But, I know between shows you will be out the woods blasting bambi to bits. And, is with all hunters, you are no longer welcome in our house.
patty biegun ([email]) wrote:
Yeah, right, OK...
Call me a fool, but I think that King of the Hill exhibits a healthier attitude. From the very first, Hank tried to insure that Bobby knew how to handle his gun, care for it, and use it safely. Before you begin quoting from half a dozen cases of kids who accidentally shoot themselves or their friends by playing with their fathers' loaded handgun, _ask_ yourself, calmly and dispassionately: would Bobby ever do that? would Hank ever let that happen?
The protective instinct, misapplied, is sometimes more dangerous, you know. Is it necessarily a good thing to keep guns "far away from children"? To keep them completely ignorant, is that what we want?
I think your attitude to be dangerous, stupid, and self-defeating.
-et
In article , patty biegun wrote:
Hey, folks, don't get upset with Patty. I agree with her. The episode glamorized guns, so we should all quit watching it, otherwise the writers will never get the message.
By rights, we should have quit watching the show when they glamorized child abuse. How about when they glamourized constipation? Remember when they glamorized smoking? I also don't like the way they glamorize riding lawn mowers. For me, the last straw was when they glamorized competitive Boggle!
(For Patty's benefit, I should point out that this message is part SARCASM and part SATIRE, as it is clear that she has difficulty recognizing either.)
--Sean
Sean Drake wrote:
Oooooo! That hurt. Looks like I have been blasted by the majority. Okay, Okay. There were a lot of funny moments. And non-homeboys would have looked at it as just another day in the life of Hank Hill's world. I just happen to be a non-homeboy (girl) living in a homeboy's world. You would not believe the injured deer limping around our woods with gunshot wounds. I guess you could say I jumped the gun.
All of you have convinced me to give Hank another chance. I was looking forward to see him naked! But, would that be promoting nudists colonies? Got the point, Sean. Thanks!
Hey, and I did get everyone talking! Do I get points for that?
patty Some of you wrote me concerning multiple postings. For those of you I did not get back to, In my last posting I explained that my server was on some kind of whack-out. It was telling me it was not sending when it was. I apologize.
The show glamorized guns, children owning guns, and the clear message that hunting was OK and even good. People keep guns for two reason: to protect themselves (in that case they should be kept far from children) and to kill our wildlife.
Nissan and Nike should be ashamed to been advertisers on that show! Don't they know that only 7% of the American population hunts?
Good-bye, Hank Hill, I will miss you. But, I know between shows you will be out the woods blasting bambi to bits. And, is with all hunters, you are no longer welcome in our house.
*note: No personal messages, please. Post your thoughts back to the board. Spam Protected.
In article , patty biegun wrote:
Is there a legitimate reason why you had to post this message more than one time?!!
That's the only way the HCI crowd can get anyone to pay attention to them. They believe that if you repeat something often enough, it will start to resemble the truth.
In article , patty biegun wrote:
Did you even watch the show? They did not go out into woods to shoot Bambi, they went down the Arlen gun club and praticed shooting. Hank demostrated that he wasn't very good at shooting. Yes they shot at wooden figures of animals, but did you see anyone shoot at a real live animal?
Second, they made fun of the NRA, and shooting with the range safety officer who routinely ran out in front of the shooters while they were practicing. On the one hand, they emphasized a sport, target shooting, while at the same time poking fun at the gun nuts out there.
One thing I did notice, was that the promo's for the show, had Bobby pointing his gun at the crowd behind him, with Peggy and Chalene ducking for cover. Yet that scene never happened in the show, least wise that I noticed. Interesting. Any thoughts?
So, that's two good reasons to keep guns. Any more? (Well, to overthrow the government in time of tyranny. But that kind of goes without saying)
But 50% of the population owns guns. Do 50% of the characters on TV own guns? (A confession -- I have never owned a gun. Most of my girlfriends have, though. None of them hunted;one is a vegetarian. They just know the truth of the old saying:Sam Colt made all men equal.)
Mmmm...Bambi.
(I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but this one was too funny to pass up.)
WAH WAH WAH!!!!
Get a grip, it is a show for goodness sake.
In article , patty biegun wrote:
Oh please it was meant in humor. If you get your morals from tv then you've got problems. Nobody freaked when the Whooping Crane got beaned. If you could grasp the humor you could see how silly it made people who worship guns look.
Besides, I don't want every single show I see to be politically correct. Next someone will be peeved because child services hasn't taken the Simpson kids away from their abusive father.
I think that line made the whole show for me. That was the best part of Sunday nite
I tuned into Sanity FM when patty biegun wrote:
Has no one in this newsgroup heard of *satire*? I didn't even see the episode, and I can tell it's satire. Sheesh.
[email] (Heidi L Sackerson) wrote:
Actually its not. Some people just live and feel different than you. Deal with it.
In article , [email] (cecil) wrote:
Don't forget the bit with Dale. "That's a thinker."
I tuned into Sanity FM when [email] (cecil) wrote:
I can't believe what a dork I am! I thought the premier was *next* Sunday! Bummer...
Oh well, there's always reruns.