I know Malcolm in the middle pushed Futurama off the schedule, and I should therefore hate it, but I gotta admit I really enjoyed it.
So im being torn in two directions, my love for the great Futurama, and my hopes that Malcolm in the Middle is a success (and the best chance for that is the post Simpsons time slot). What to do, what to do!! arrgg! :-)
Alex
i guess they dont want a 4 hour animation block but a groening hour whould be great
Good afternoon, gentlemen, I am Wilberforce Arseman - head of FOX's "Dyslexic Executives Who Set Boneheaded Schedules Based on Misconstrued Research." I think that your idea for a Groaning hour is a perfect one, and we will be implementing it immediately, with :
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Thank you for your recommendations. FOX is what is because of decisions like this. Completely moronic.
Yours sincerely....
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I actually thought it was pretty funny too-- they really picked a good actor for the kid, plus it heavily features They Might Be Giants on the soundtrack, which is a major plus for me.
<< I actually thought it was pretty funny too-- they really picked a good actor for the kid, plus it heavily features They Might Be Giants on the soundtrack, which is a major plus for me. >>
The show was fairly mediocre, but:
A) That kid who played Malcolm couldn't act.
B) Malcolm's character was obviously misdiagnosed as he does not act anything like a person with an I.Q. of 164. He acts like a -shudder- normal child. And a mean one at that.
C) It is even more like The Simpsons than Family Guy was. The eating scene, the one mischevious boy who stands out, the "We're better than the neighbours" speach. Remember the second Simpsons episode "Bart the Geinus"?
D) The show is also less orginal than anything I've seen in years.
Sincerely, Robert Muldoon
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:39:56 -0600 (CST), [email] (Robert Muldoon) wrote:
Yeah, I must aggree... In fact, "mediocre" is kind. Really very unoriginal. It kind of reminded me of The Wonder Years, without the funny parts.
Certainly NOT worth bumping Futurama. Futurama BELONGS right after The Simpsons. That's just the natural order of things. Hey, dogs chase cats, cats eat mice, and Futurama follows The Simpsons. I didnt like it when it was on tuesdays, either.
Very cool sig, Robert.
Kidstuff
Robert Muldoon wrote:
I strongly disagree. Frankie Muniz was given the difficult test of addressing the camera, and he passed with flying colors.
It was 165, and find another way to explain his reaction to the picture test.
Do you believe that all intelligent children behave like pretentious nerds? Being a genius doesn't mean that you can't conduct yourself as a normal person. I applaud Linwood Boomer for shattering the stereotype. (a stumbling, socially inept outsider with taped eyeglasses and a pocket protector)
How was he "mean"? He was a bit short-tempered, but he obviously possessed decent morals. Children in general are often mean-spirited, and he was at least as friendly as the majority of the children that I grew up with.
There is a similarity in the style, but nothing was lifted. Bits and pieces also remind me of "The Wonder Years" and "The Adventures of Pete and Pete," but I can't think of a single aspect that seems copied.
Yeah, "The Simpsons" invented the dysfunctional television family.
Don't even TRY to compare "Malcolm" to "Bart"! They're NOTHING alike!
I'm sorry, but "The Simpsons" didn't originate this type of storyline. It can be traced back at least as far as "Dennis the Menace." (1959 - 1963)
You must not watch much television.
Retsam Teppup
This is veering off into the realm of OT territory, but I actually remember that episode! Dennis stuck gum on the back of his test, and the computer misread the answers and reported him a genius.
<< I strongly disagree. Frankie Muniz was given the difficult test of addressing the camera, and he passed with flying colors. >>
If he had kept away from that part, then he might have been okay. That scene pushed it over the edge.
<< It was 165, and find another way to explain his reaction to the picture test. >>
I don't recall that part.
<< Do you believe that all intelligent children behave like pretentious nerds? >>
No, they are quiet and thoughtful, and often ask many questions. They seperate from other kids like oil and water. At least, all the ones I ever knew were like that.
<< Being a genius doesn't mean that you can't conduct yourself as a normal person. >>
Well, I never could, never did, and hope I never do.
<< I applaud Linwood Boomer for shattering the stereotype. (a stumbling, socially inept outsider with taped eyeglasses and a pocket protector) >>
Who the hell is "Lindwood Bloomer"? The steryotype is just as strong as it ever was. I never had glasses, braces, a pocket protector, or "geeky" cloths (we had uniforms), and I was labeled a nerd from day one.
<< How was he "mean"? He was a bit short-tempered, but he obviously possessed decent morals. >>
He put his brother in a garbage can. And what decent morals? I saw none.
<< Children in general are often mean-spirited, and he was at least as friendly as the majority of the children that I grew up with. >>
Christ, the kids you grew up with were often mean spirited? Maybe I shouldn't complain about my childhood as much as I do. I mean, my dad choking my mom, my face being practially ripped off by a dog, being beat up and mocked to this day, being depressed constantly, having no friends, liking nothing, etc. My childhood was a blast.
<< There is a similarity in the style, but nothing was lifted. Bits and pieces also remind me of "The Wonder Years" and "The Adventures of Pete and Pete," but I can't think of a single aspect that seems copied. >>
I've never seen either.
<<Don't even TRY to compare "Malcolm" to "Bart"! They're NOTHING alike!
Oh God, you're right. Bart is a funny charactor with realistic thoughts and feelings.
<< I'm sorry, but "The Simpsons" didn't originate this type of storyline. It can be traced back at least as far as "Dennis the Menace." (1959 - 1963) >>
Well, I've only been around snce '84, so. . .
<< You must not watch much television. Retsam Teppup >>
No, thankfully.
Sincerely, Robert "Boycott Pokémon" Muldoon o--(|8[#]
"I have my books and my poetry to protect me."
Um...I'm all for the funny part, but I can't see his thoughts and feelings as "realistic."
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:58:51 GMT, Rich Bunnell wrote:
For a ten year old boy? You must be either: a) Kidding, or b) NOT a regular or long time viewer of the show.
[email] wrote:
Umm hrm--- I've seen each episode a huge number of times and have watched since Tracey Ullman, and I have to say that though he was realistic at first, most ten-year-olds don't have feelings of pointless destruction and agitation as Bart so recently has shown.
Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.futurama: 19-Jan-100 Re: I know it replaced futu.. by Rich [email]
Seriously, if you didn't go through puberty and were stuck in the same grade for 10 years, I think any kid would be agitated just a bit.
Ahh... the impunizing of everything in Futurama's spot always "being a rip-off of the Simpsons".
He spoke to the camera throughout the entire episode.
In the scene, Malcolm was displayed a drawing which contained deliberate inaccuracies. He was able to rattle off the list of errors with incredible ease.
Did you miss some of the show? If so, it isn't fair of you to review it.
I'll say this: Back in elementary school, I scored very highly on various I.Q. tests. I was placed into "gifted & talented" classes. Ask anyone who has ever known me, and "quiet" is the last word that they'll use to describe me. I was known as the most talkative child in my school, an I still have a difficult time shutting up.
That may be fine for you, but not for everyone.
It's Linwood Boomer, and he's the creator of "Malcolm in the Middle." (He also wrote the pilot episode.) He was previously a writer for "3rd Rock From the Sun." Before that, he was an actor on "Little House On the Prairie."
I'm aware of that. That's why I appreciate the efforts being made by this series.
This is usually fueled by jealousy. Bill Gates is a textbook "nerd," and I'm certain that he was made fun of as a child.
My older brother did far worse things to me. That's what older brothers do. We're now the best of friends.
He put aside his discomfort around those who are "different," and befriended Stevie, a disabled classmate. He also stood up to a bully in a non-violent manner.
I'm sorry that you have had a difficult childhood, but I have no idea why you're revealing this personal information.
I would hardly call "Bart" realistic, and I suggest that you view at least an entire episode of "Malcolm in the Middle," before you judge its title character.
I was born in 1980. I used to watch old reruns of "Dennis the Menace" on Nickelodeon.
You're missing out on some great programs, as well as some that are SO BAD, they would send to running back to "Malcolm in the Middle" in a split second.
Retsam Teppup
<< He spoke to the camera throughout the entire episode. >>
And he seemed nervous and jerky all the while. And he had a winey voice.
<< In the scene, Malcolm was displayed a drawing which contained deliberate inaccuracies. He was able to rattle off the list of errors with incredible ease. Did you miss some of the show? If so, it isn't fair of you to review it.
I was tired, so naturally after a few days, I forgot some tidbits. I only remember the Futurama episodes from this season, even though I saw all of last season. Besides, my brain apparently felt the need to erase that God-awful show from my memory. Even if I had missed a few minutes, I doubt that it would have affected my review.
<< I'll say this: Back in elementary school, I scored very highly on various I.Q. tests. I was placed into "gifted & talented" classes. Ask anyone who has ever known me, and "quiet" is the last word that they'll use to describe me. I was known as the most talkative child in my school, an I still have a difficult time shutting up. >>
I ment to leave out the word "quiet" and replace it with "insightful", but I was tired.
<< That may be fine for you, but not for everyone. >>
Did I ever say "Everyone has to do what I do"?
<< It's Linwood Boomer, and he's the creator of "Malcolm in the Middle." (He also wrote the pilot episode.) He was previously a writer for "3rd Rock From the Sun." Before that, he was an actor on "Little House On the Prairie." >>
Ah. Thanks for clearing that up.
<< I'm aware of that. That's why I appreciate the efforts being made by this series. >>
Oh, they'll save the world, they will.
<< This is usually fueled by jealousy. Bill Gates is a textbook "nerd," and I'm certain that he was made fun of as a child. >>
Did I say that he wasn't?
<<My older brother did far worse things to me. That's what older brothers do. We're now the best of friends. >>
That's awful! My only friend (whom I see about twice a year) has an older brother who was always nice to us and would even do things for us if we asked him. It makes me shudder to think that family units function like yours.
<< He put aside his discomfort around those who are "different," and befriended Stevie, a disabled classmate. He also stood up to a bully in a non-violent manner. >>
Eh.
<< I'm sorry that you have had a difficult childhood, but I have no idea why you're revealing this personal information. >>
Why not? You people really are my only friends. I wouldn't even consider my father a figure worthy of the title "Dad". It was directly his fault that my face was mauled, I almost choked to death, and was terrified of being alone (even in my room) until I was eleven. This is the second day in a row that he said he was coming to pick me up, and didn't. He never pays child support either.
<< I would hardly call "Bart" realistic, and I suggest that you view at least an entire episode of "Malcolm in the Middle," before you judge its title character. >>
You remind me of the person who told me to start listening to Howard Stern, Art Bell, and Rush Limbaugh. If you don't think that Bart (why the quotation marks?) is unrealistic, then you obviously don't watch The Simpsons. I suggest that you view at least an entire episode of "The Simpsons," before you judge one of it's main charactors.
<< I was born in 1980. I used to watch old reruns of "Dennis the Menace" on Nickelodeon. >>
I watched Inspector Gadget and The Simpsons religiously. That amounts to three hours of TV a week. That doesn't include videos, though.
<< You're missing out on some great programs >>
No, I watch Nick at Nite and TV Land often. I was always labelled as "watching too much TV", which I used to agree with, but there are people who watch more than I do. That is sad. I'm not the kind of person to say this, but there are better things to do.
<<, as well as some that are SO BAD, they would send to running back to "Malcolm in the Middle" in a split second. >>
To best describe my feeling towards the show, I would rather watch 24 hours (non stop) of "World's Blankiest Bank" type shows than another episode of Malcolm in the Middle. I feel that Sunday night is "good show night" on FOX, and this abomination blows that schedule out the window.
Sincerely, Robert Muldoon o--(|8[#]
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Robert Muldoon wrote:
Did I?
I don't appreciate your sarcasm.
Do you know what? I was attempting to compliment you, and you responded with an undo defense mechanism.
If I were the type of person who used such tired a clich� as "the pot calling the kettle black," now would be the time.
I understand your need to vent, but this thread is not the appropriate forum. I made an insignificant comment, and you replied with some disturbing and unrelated information.
I DO think that he's unrealistic. I assume that you meant to either say "realistic," or omit the word "don't."
By the way, the quotation marks indicate that "Bart" is the name of a fictional character.
Believe it or not, I've been a fan since the very beginning. (I watched "The Tracey Ullman Show" specifically to see the shorts.) I have seen every episode that has ever aired. (most of them numerous times)
Very little about the show is intended to be realistic. As the series has progressed, the realism has only decreased. (which is only an observation, not a criticism)
I could rattle off the titles of literally dozens of episodes in which "Bart" committed acts that no ten year-old is capable of. This is part of the program's charm.
That's good. I also enjoy these channels, although I'm greatly annoyed by the logos in the corner of the screen.
Retsam Teppup
By the same token there are dozens of eps where he is portrayed very realistically. It's that type of portrayal that made so many people fans of the series. Bart was often written as someone either kids or adults could identify with, not just as a guy to spout one-liners. Think of Bart the General, Bart the Daredevil, Bart's Girlfriend, Last Tempt. of Homer, Boy Scouts in the Hood... What made the show special is exactly the fact that the characters were much more realistic, with emotions and conflicts we could identify with, than those on most other sitcoms.
"Eric S." wrote:
That's certainly true. These are some of my favorite episodes, and they're becoming few and far between.
I'm one of them. I enjoy both types of episodes, and I feel that there should be a greater balance between them.
Those are all great episodes, and none of them are from the past five years. Two are from 1990 and two are from 1993. The most recent is "Bart's Girlfriend," which first aired on November 6, 1994.
Unfortunately, as someone else described, it has degenerated into "The Wacky Homer and Friends Show." While I still find most of the episodes funny, I'm growing very tired of the "Homer gets a zany new job" storylines. This is no better than when practically every episode centered around "Bart".
Last night, we received a "BART gets a zany new job" episode. While there were some very funny jokes, both the plot and subplot were terribly lacking. There were several glaring inconsistencies, and I was shocked and disgusted by the cheap dismembered leg gag. The last episode to contain a development that I disliked as much, was "Homer Simpson in: 'Kidney Trouble'" That was my least favorite episode ever, and it's only one that I've ever rated an "F". Due to the mostly decent humor, I'll give last night's episode a "C-". (slightly below average)
These days, I turn to "King of the Hill" for realistic stories, and characters who show genuine emotion. In my opinion, this is the best all-around primetime cartoon on television, and it's certainly the most consistent.
Retsam Teppup
I think Mike Scully is lobbying to change the name to "The Homer & Dr. Hibbert Smile Time Variety Show."
It looks like whoever wrote the episode stopped writing (or caring) right after Milhouse got hit by a truck, because after that it was just silliness masquerading as emotion.
Last night was the debut of the new season of the Sopranos. I think it's time you cable, watch the Sopranos at 9:00 to help take the bad taste out of your mouth that the Scully-era Simpsons leaves you with.
NO! STOP TALKING ABOUT THE GODDAMN SOPRANOS! I refuse to watch The Sopranos, or get cable and HBO just to watch it.
But if you were to, say, provide RealVideo versions on Dean Humphries' World o' Copyright infringement...
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Hmmm. Make me an offer I couldn't refuse.
The Simpsons strip fiasco was enough, I had UPS at my door. And I don't mean the delivery man.
I liked it back when it was called "Goodfellas".
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dumb children with no parental supervision, and access to a hammer.It wasn't really bad, but it wasn't the great show all the critics made it out to be. I'd still rather be watching Futurama.
Phish eggs wrote:
Still. the cripple getting punched was funny.
I only watch TV for two reasons: Simpsons and Futurama. But the Simpsons are going downhill (IMHO), and now Fututrama is out temporarily.
I tried MitM, but had to turn off the set after 20 minutes. I found nothing new, dry acting, and found myself wondering how long it took the execs to blurt out "Hey, how about Simpsons meets Wonder Years meets A Christmas Story! It's heart warming family love with zany characters and a gen-X, in your face attitude about being 'normal'! What do you think, Poochie?!"
I think my two-cents are up.
BTW, whosoever hosted the season one mpgs, big thanks! Hope I didn't boge the bandwidth on your server! Season two any time soon?
-kid
too dumb for smart-ass comments.
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 02:08:24 GMT, "Alex Sorokopud" wrote:
In article , [email] wrote:
You should have watched the last ten minutes. It had a good resolution.
<< I understand your need to vent, but this thread is not the appropriate forum. I made an insignificant comment, and you replied with some disturbing and unrelated information. >>
If you find it disturbing, then don't read it. I've had people share their similar experiences with me, but I guess I was expecting too much of people in this newsgroup.
<< By the way, the quotation marks indicate that "Bart" is the name of a fictional character. >>
Oh, I see. . . "Malcolm" is real, but "Bart" isn't. Okay. Whatever.
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