A couple of "Godfellas" notes

S04E08 GodfellasliveMar 18, 2002, 12:56 AM ET3 hours after the credits20 posts by 16 postersalt.tv.futurama
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Don Del Grandealt.tv.futurama

I'm in nitpicky mode today, so here are a couple of observations:

First, if Bender wanted to slow himself down, or change direction towards a planet, why didn't he just "fire off" one of his "flaming burps"? (It could have also signalled Fry and Leela as to his location.)

Second, why bother climbing to the monastery - why not just fly there with the ship?

Don Del Grande, [email] I know "there's no oxygen in space" (for Bender's "fire burp"), but that doesn't seem to stop any of our space probes from firing its rockets (for mid-trip course changes)...

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If you are hit by a car, and are flying very quickly towards a brick wall, and you had a gun with you, and shot towards the wall, would it slow you down? Yes, but just a little bit. It would have done no good. Also, he only does his flaming burbs when he drinks a large amount of alcohol. So no solution. Besides, when he spun around, his direction could have been anything.

J.

"John Jacob" wrote in message news:a74srd$u3m$07$[email]...

wall,

solution.

True, but why didn't he just start up his jets when he was slowed down enough and go back after the ship? Or even head towards Earth? He was expecting to float through space forever, so he might as well search for home.

As for the "flying to the Himalayas in the ship" bit, maybe there was a no fly zone?

I don't mind though, we wouldn't have gotten such a brilliant episode if he did that. ;)

Anthony Regina
willAnthony Reginaalt.tv.futurama

#### maybe he lost his sense of direction after trying to slow down? of course he could have retrieved the spinning degree/speed data from the memory, and carefully calculate the correct earth path, but like you said, it wouldn't be fun then :)

will.

LarryAnthony Reginaalt.tv.futurama

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 04:39:46 GMT, "Anthony Regina" wrote:

Once he stopped spinning it would be very hard to determine which direction he was moving. In the show, you see stars go whizzing by to indicate motion, but in reality, it would take a long time to determine direction from the stars. After a few months to several years (depending on his speed and the locations of nearby stars) parallax would indicate direction.

Bender does have some kind of a guidance system, which he used to pin the tail on the moon maggot (I Second that Emotion). But, is it sensitive enough to keep track of direction after the spin? Hard to say. Would Bending units have astro-navagation systems embedded? Would Bender have stolen one? Also hard to say. The Model B-2 environmental robot sent on the Jupiter 2 (AKA The Robot on Lost in Space) had one, until they gave it tot he guy who got lost going to Saturn. But, that was just a TV show from the 20th century, Futurama is reality.

So, a wizard must have done it.

--Larry

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On or about Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:25:27 GMT, Larry made the sensational claim that:

But what effect would traveling faster than light have on all this? Not to mention the nature of Planet Express ship's propulsion.

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LarryLooseChanjalt.tv.futurama

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:38:42 GMT, LooseChanj wrote:

They don't travel faster than light, the ship stands still and the universe moves. Not that it makes this any easier. In fact, that only raises bigger questions.

Since the ship was moving at top speed, which would be faster than light and Bender was moving even faster, Bender would be going faster than faster than light. Which would be very fast indeed.

If normal momentum still applies, then no matter how fast Bender is going, he is not accelerating. The asteroid collisions and the occasional hydrogen atoms would slow him down. the ship on the other hand can continue to accelerate and therefore must be able to catch him.

This begs the question, how did the alien culture survive an impact they exceeded light speed? Or survive without air? Or make the additional soil used on Benders backside? and so on.

Most of this episode must be chalked up to limitations on the convenience drive system and the actions of a wizard.

--Larry

DacLarryalt.tv.futurama

...such as, why did Bender's tear fall *down*, instead of floating off into space...?

Agreed, though it was enjoyable episode nonetheless.

Doug TabaccoDacalt.tv.futurama

Perhaps whatever mechanism generated the tear just happened to give it an initial downward velocity :)

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Michael SchneiderDacalt.tv.futurama

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And since it was only one drop that created the flood, how could he put his whole hand into the river created from that single drop.

Probably a wizard, as mentioned before...

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Matthew MillerLarryalt.tv.futurama

Well, that's easy. A) they were already travelling at faster than light relative to us, which is to say very slowly relative to Bender. and B) they're anaerobic, of course. And Bender can pick up their voices through the vibrations of his body. Yeah.

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Damn, was this episode written Warren P. Wizard?

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Lol, I second that emotion.

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Anthony Regina:

Or simply not enough room to land.

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Nah, as in "Fear of a Bot Planet", they could well have had the ship hover, while they got winched down to ground level. Consider this a plot flaw (intended or not) to pad the episode.

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John Jacob wrote in message news:a74srd$u3m$07$[email]...

wall,

solution.

Actually, in space firing a gun (though a gun wouldn't fire normally due to lack of oxygen for the spark on the primer) would slow you down significantly. The force from firing the bullet being directed back at you in the opposite direction (good ole' Newton's third law) would probably be enough for a noticeable decrease in speed.

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On or about Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:13:52 -0800, Fraggler? made the sensational claim that:

Actually, that gun would fire normally. It's the lubrication you'd have problems with, so you might not be able to fire it much.

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LarryLooseChanjalt.tv.futurama

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:35:55 GMT, LooseChanj wrote:

There would still be the problem of pulling the trigger in a space suit. Unless it's one of those special "NASA guns" with an extra large trigger and finger guard.

If you fired a gun in while free floating, you'd very likely not fire it from your inertial moment and it would cause you to spin. If you were on the moon, or another low gravity body, you could use it to assist climbing a hill.

If an astronaut could fire it while wearing a space suit, it would have to be designed for use in a vacuum. It should have teflon coated surfaces, or some other mechanism to deal with the evaporation of lubricant.

They had to use a similar technique in the arms on the shuttle and ISS and of course, the bottle opener / corkscrew attachment on the Swiss Army EVA suits.

--Larry

On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:56:44 -0800, Don Del Grande wrote:

There are entire sequences of people speaking in the hard vacuum of deep space, and this is what bothers you?

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