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"Link" wrote in message news:VstM7.28850$SJ3.289890@NewsReader...

Thats a pretty good price for all 3 of them... i thought it was �31.99 each!

Mike

"Michael Pretlove" wrote in message news:BqCM7.36087$[email]...

each!

When the S1 simpsons came out recently on dvd play had the R2 at 30 quid and teh R1 at 18. Given the difference and the fact that I have them all on video and PC I'll wait to see if an R1 set appears any time soon.

In article , [email] says...

Yeah, the European Comission is investigating this. They asked the film industry why the heck an European DVD is so much more expensive especially as we are prohibited from buying RC1 versions.

As long as paying customers are treated like that by a greedy industry they don't have to be astonished about us copying ourselves to death!

-< Moon >-

Moon wrote:

Buying RC1 DVDs is completely legal. It's just not legal to sell them in Germany. It's not against the law to either bring RC1 DVDs from other countries to Germany or to order them from somewhere outside Germany. And even the fact that selling RC1 DVDs in Germany is illegal, is not a fact. The GVU ("Gesellschaft zur Verfolgung von Urheberrechtsverletzungen") says so, but many shops sued themselves and in every single case (according to my information) the court turned it down because of insignificance. Smaller shops are still/again selling RC1 DVDs.

In article , [email] says...

Gosh, did you really need the quotes? Ok, once again:

They asked the film industry why the heck an European DVD is so much more expensive especially as we are "prohibited" from buying RC1 versions.

The point is that the fucking industry does not want us customers to buy and watch RC1 DVDs when we live elsewhere and vice versa. We Europeans are supposed to buy RC2 DVDs

• later than US releases
• twice as expensive as US releases (not to mention posting and packaging)
• missing tons of extras
• having tons of ridiculous user prohibitions

I WANT to spend my money on films but I'm not allowed to do it the way I want. Thus the industry has a problem cause I don't spend my money at all (except for CD-R's of course).

-< Moon >-

Moon wrote:

Gee, don't you know what you write?

OK, once again: you wrote "especially as we are prohibited from buying RC1 versions". And that's wrong. Plain and simple.

So what? We get the films later in theatres (because of the dubbing), so we get them later on DVD. And in case of Star Wars episode 1 we got the DVD at the same time, despite we had the film 3 months later in theatres.

Twice as expensive? Definitely more expensive, but not even close to twice as much.

That isn't the case anymore. Most new DVDs have the same extras. In case of "Any given Sunday" (just as example) we even got a 2 DVD edition, while the US only got 1 DVD with less extras. Now they also have the double DVD, but AFAIK only available in the Oliver Stone box.

Only in Europe? (Just asking.)

I want American maple syrup for the same price as European maple syrup. But no, the motherfucking stores sell the American stuff for much higher prices than the European bottles. When will the EU fight for maple syrup fans?

What's your problem? You can order RC1 DVDs legally on the internet and you can buy them in many shops here in Germany. OK, the big stores (WOM, Saturn, etc) don't have them, but they also don't sell NTSC video cassettes, do they?

In article , [email] says...

Obviously noone ever told you the meaning of putting a word in double- quotes.

Ridiculous, seems you're one of that guys that do think that prices like 60,- DM for a DVD is justified. The industry loves ya.

-< Moon >-

RC1

But

prices

Isn't another reason that sometimes the distributor for the R1 and R2 versions are sometimes completly different losing them money if people import the R1 version.

Hundsfurtz wrote:

Duh! LPs, cassettes, tapes and CDs are *audio*. What about the only comparable media: videos? There are three different standards - PAL, SECAM and NTSC. Just because some nations were to pride to adapt a working system. Same nonsense. Have you ever tried to get NTSC videos in Germany? Very difficult. And when you find them in a small hidden store, they are more expensive than German videos (and German videos have - in contrast to RC2 DVDs - no English language track).

You want that to change? Vote PDS. I do that, because I want a change, but as long as you don't, you have to live with the power of the "almighty buck".

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:22:09 +0100, "Martin Schmidt" wrote:

There is some technical reasons for the format differences. Electrical current in North America is 60HZ, whereas Europe uses 50HZ. The early TV used that frequency as a clock to refresh fields (half screens). So, European TV would only have 25 full frames per second to North America's 30. The solution was the PAL system which improves quality.

When the TV systems were first developed, no one predicted VCRs / DVDs, so no one saw a major advantage to standardizing.

BTW There is actually a fourth standard called MESECAM. I don't what it is or where it's used, but I did see a VCR that claimed it could play them. I don't know why there are four formats rather than just one for each frequency. You may be right about it being pride. Hopefully, as TV goes fully digital, they will adapt a single standard.

--Larry

In article , [email] says...

"dream on, skin tube"!

SCNR.

-< Moon >-

Moon wrote:

You pay 60 DM for a DVD? You definitely don't know much about "DVD shopping". (I usually don't pay more than 45,- DM for a DVD)

In article , [email] says...

Neither me. Nevertheless 45,- is still too much for a movie (just as is 35,- for a CD)...

Moon wrote:

Videos cost 40 DM. And with all the additional stuff on a DVD, 45 DM is a fair price.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:14:20 +0100, Moon wrote:

Not always, as seen recently by the Family Guy and Futurama DVD's.

I'll give you that, but we have the choice whether to buy R2 DVD's or not, afterall? If it's that unreasonable then you don't buy it.

See above. Also, usually they do actually come with Full Extra's or at the very least the equavilent to R4 extra's.

Do you mean BBFC cuts? You are going to have that problem when you buy UK video's and DVD's. Not a problem usually for DVD as companies are less likely to be bothered about a higher age rating (Look at Family Guy again).

Or, on the other hand, you don't feel like supporting the people who created the show, and these so-called "opinions" are actually an excuse for pirating movies. If you are going to do it, don't try and make excuses.

"Halo-" schrieb

likely to

He means user prohibitions set by the authors of the DVD. An example are subtitles, that are not hardcoded but can't be disabled because the authors want you to watch them. Or five-minute copyright warnings you can't skip because of user prohibitions.

Halo- wrote:

ACK

A friend of mine always says "Who has the right to say, how much music is worth? Nobody. That's why I only copy CDs." It's always interesting to hear all the excuses for actually stealing things.

"Sir, I think nobody has the right to say, how much the work of an Asian child is worth. That's why I'm now stealing these Nike shoes." ;-)

In article , [email] says...

Ridiculous! Fortunately I am the sovereign and can decide wether to buy it or not. If the industry wants too much money for a DVD I just don't buy it. Obviously a lot of ppl think the prices are justified (tell me the difference between US and European DVDs result from localization and shipping <- LOL) which I do consider as an lame excuse for their obedience to greedy authorities. But that's only me...

Oh, be happy there IS a Futurama DVD over there, AND a Family Guy DVD. There's no Futurama DVD here, or a Family Guy DVD. FOX has announced zero plans for either series.

Those are just 2 of the series FOX is slowly trying to drive into cancellation.

On 10 Dec 2001 16:59:09 -0800, [email] (Corey Barnes) went upon the mount and spoke thus:

They must not be trying all that hard with Family Guy, considering it's been on again, off again since '99 or so.

• Robinson

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:45:28 -0800, "Link" went upon the mount and spoke thus:

Is there any place else that has these available for pre-order? Specifically a place that would deliver to the United States.

• Robinson

I think Amazon.de has the German ones. I assume they include English, but maybe not- its not listed! They are also R2. Of course, I prefer the packaging and stuff to be in english.. I'm not even sure amazon.de ships to the US, but I know amazon.com used to ship to Germany when I lived there. http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005TN9B

There must be some UK retailers that will carry it and ship to the US. Maybe Blackstar.co.uk?

"Mirror Spock" wrote in message news:[email]...

blackstar does it have it listed for Jan 28th: http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000067414

"luther miller" wrote in message news:wCYM7.1985$[email]...

to

Maybe

on this topic, does anyone know of any Australian online retailers that would be good to keep an eye on for the release of local Futurama DVD's?

Mike

In article , [email] says...

http://www.dvdplanet.com.au/index2.htm http://www.ezydvd.com.au/

-< Moon >-

thanks moon.

damn... none of them have it listed in the 'comming soon' sections...

what was the release date for Aussie dvd's???

Mike