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forget the rock-n-roll hall of fame -- that was a much better immortalization!

"Dave H." wrote in news:060120021932276110%[email]:

Yep, to still have faithful fans 1000 years into the future.

<< Yep, to still have faithful fans 1000 years into the future. >>

Sure, it's Classical Music. And I'd assume that the "current" classical artists are considered ancients?

On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 06:24:48 GMT, "Robert J. Muldoon" wrote:

"Why don't you listen to any of the classics. Bach, Mendelssohn or Motorhead?" --Arnold Rimmer, Red Dwarf

Fry's Music: A Fish Full of Dollars - Sir Mix A Lot Fear of a Bot Planet - Beastie Boys Luck of the Fryish - Huey Lewis and the News, The Breakfast Club & Break Dancing music.

Now he's a Rush fan. For some reason I didn't think of Fry as having such wide tastes in music.

--Larry

Probably just to fit the plot or gag.

DGH

I think at one point or another, I listened to most of the same music, so even if it is just to fit the gag, its not less than 99.9% plausible.

"doug holverson" wrote in message news:B861BB72.B56FA%[email]...

"luther miller" wrote in message news:zD__7.7673$[email]...

That's so plausible, it's unbelievable. (or something to that effect)

nathan

On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 16:57:03 GMT, "luther miller" wrote:

For someone with wide taste in music it's quite possible. In fact, I have both Rush and The Beastie Boys in my collection.

In Fry's case, he was 21 when he got frozen. My musical tastes were a bit more limited when I was 21. Also, Fry doesn't seem the type to investigate new musical styles or have wide ranging tastes. After all, he did have a K-Tel record vault.

--Larry

At 21, I also owned Rush and the Beastie Boys. Maybe Fry doesn't get too much new music now (who knows), but he was probably more into when he was younger. I was anyway- more actively seeking new bands and more "in-the-know" anyway. Now I'm just an old grump ;-)

"Larry" wrote in message news:[email]...

On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 23:09:34 GMT, "luther miller" wrote:

When I was 21, the Beastie Boys didn't even exist yet. I First heard of them When Robert Plant mentioned them. Almost every band they sampled threatened to sue, but Plant said he liked the album and he considered the sampling a compliment.

No, music today just isn't as good as it used to be. It all sounds the same too. The only decent music is on the oldies stations.

<OK, just kidding . . .>

--Larry

<< No, music today just isn't as good as it used to be. It all sounds the same too. The only decent music is on the oldies stations.

<OK, just kidding . . .> >>

Why? You're right.

C'Mon, theres some good stuff, you just have to find it. Tool, for example. Or the Deftones.

"Robert J. Muldoon" wrote in message news:2L4%7.19377$[email]...

<< C'Mon, theres some good stuff, you just have to find it. Tool, for example. Or the Deftones. >>

I stand corrected! Actually, I was referring more to chart toppers.

Yeah, there sure is a lot of crap out there- especially the chart toppers! But I don't think that has changed much over the years.

"Robert J. Muldoon" wrote in message news:iIe%7.19776$[email]...

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:33:32 GMT, "luther miller" wrote:

Over the years, the "chart topping smash hits" are often forgotten and the really good music is remembered. So in retrospect, older music seems better.

I noticed a number of times that a hit song was the worst track on an album.

Remember the Sturgeon rule: "90% of everything is crap".

--Larry

"Never hear surf music again" - Jimi Hendrix

[email] (Larry) wrote:

Fry was older than 21 when he got frozen. Back in "A Flight to Remember" he quips "I haven't had time off since I was 21 thru 24." And who knows how long he was working at Panucci's Pizzeria.

If his predilection for Space Invaders, Break-Dancing and Sir Mix-A-Lot is any indication; Fry was at least 25 when he was iced. But I suspect he was closer to 30.

Saturn

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:44:45 -0600, Saturn wrote:

Your right. And in "My Three Suns" Leela refers to him as a "25 year old".

For space invaders, 30 would be reasonable. But, Leela's reference would mean he was frozen at 24 or 25.

--Larry

"Dave H." wrote:

I dug out most of my Rush discs and listened to em' this week after Tom Sawyer's cameo on "Raiders of the Lost Arcade." Man, I've forgotten how fun driving is with "Red Barchetta" going in the car stereo.

That was a very classy homage to a very under-rated and under-appreciated band.

Saturn

"Saturn" wrote in message news:[email]...

*blink*

That just does not make a damn bit of sense. I just can't imagine how you'd call Rush under-rated and/or under-appreciated. That's like saying Star Wars is an under-appreciated movie.

"LooseChanj" wrote:

Most progressive rock *is* underappreciated compared to the rest of contemporary music. Prog Rock (Rush, Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull) routinely gets ignored by the mainstream mass media because the music is progressive (and inherently less commercial) and the bands lack the usual mystique associated with rock stardom.

Rush has been around (intact) for over 25 years, fills concert arenas, has had multiple gold and platinum albums, and garners both critical and peer respect...And yet you'll never see em on TV because they live quiet, boring, ordinary, and uncontroversial lives compared to the rest of the yutzes in pop music. Let's face it, these guys don't get or want the white hot limelight attention that's accorded to groups like Aerosmith or the Stones.

Saturn Saturn S. Padua IPMS # Oklahoma Historical Modeler's Society

"Saturn" wrote in message news:[email]...

That may be true of the 90's MTV sans videos era, but Rush was *HUGE* in the 80's. In the way few bands are/were, such as Aerosmith, Van Halen, and The Rolling Stones.

How old are you? I'm guessing under 30, I'm a shade over...enough to remember when Tom Sawyer was a new song on the radio, and we were all wondering if he really sang "catch the spit".

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:11:20 GMT, "LooseChanj" wrote:

Rush is a "musician's band". They are far more popular with working musicians then the general public. Don't get me wrong, I am not a musician and I've been a hardcore Rush fan since 2112 was their current album. However, musicians tend to be impressed with their musicianship more than the general, rock radio, public.

They have avoided the standard formulas of "Oh baby I love you", "Let's rock and roll" and other lowest common denominator themes. Their music, from "No One at the Bridge" to "Cold Fire" often deals very directly with the kind of personal emotional issues that many people would rather avoid. For some, it's an affirmation that they are not alone in their feelings. For others, it's a reminder of all the things they got drunk / stoned to forget. If you list all the " . . . of the year" honors they accumulated over the years, it far outshines their radio hits.

I've seen countless bands get much more radio play, bigger hits and then totally disappear, while Rush goes on. Rumor is they are about to finally release a new album in 2002. For anyone who hasn't kept up with them (and cares), Neil Peart's lost his daughter in a car accident and then his wife to cancer about a year apart. The band has been in hiatus until he's up to playing again.

Yes, it's "Catch the spit". It is printed that way in the CD liner notes. Tom Sawyer was not originally a Rush song. It was written by Dubois, of Max Webster fame. He didn't think it was right for his band so he took it to Rush. They re-worked it together and Rush recorded it.

--Larry

"Larry" wrote in message news:[email]...

That notwithstanding, they did have a period of wide popularity in the 80's.

Well, except for their first album, which had a different drummer/lyricist right?

For me, it's being one of the "spectators" in Countdown. And to think I've only recently started appreciating that tune. Like most of Neil's lyrics, it's poetry on its own.

Yeah, sucks to be him. It'll be interesting to see what kind of tone the next album has...

Probably what colors my impressions most is that Rush was at the peak of their popularity right when I was getting to that age of getting interested in music. And as time when on I started hanging out with more and more musicians, so there ya go.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:52:18 GMT, "LooseChanj" wrote:

Spirit of Radio - Tom Sawyer era was their peak of radio play.

Sort of. John Rutsey was just the drummer, Lifeson and Lee wrote the entire first album. Lifeson continued to write lyrics up till 2112 as they transitioned to Peart.

Some of the songs did foreshadow the bands future direction (Finding My Way, Working Man), while others (In the Mood) were more formula. Rutsey wanted to go in a straight hard rock direction, while Lifeson and Lee wanted to go progressive. He has since left the music industry and has a successful career elsewhere. Last I heard, Lifeson and Rutsey still worked out together and they are all still friends.

I was not hugely impressed with that song, despite being a big NASA fan. However, their live treatment of it was great. The area they were in while watching the launch is call "Red Sector A". They later named an unrelated song after it.

I typed out the lyrics to Hemispheres and gave it to my college English teacher. He was quite impressed and totally surprised that it was lyrics to a rock song. Peart also wrote a book called "The Masked Rider" about a long distance cycling trip in Africa. Proving that he can write prose as well as great poetry.

I was just transitioning from hard rock to progressive (Aerosmith to Yes) when a friend played his 8-track of 2112 for me. No one else in my high school had ever heard of them. That was also the time my brother started to play guitar and I started hanging out with musicians.

--Larry

"Larry" wrote in message news:[email]...

Thanks for the history lesson, saved me having to get off my lazy ass.

I've never heard the term in connection with KSC, got any references? I mean seriously, "Red Sector A" would be a weird ass name I know I'd remember hearing.

As far as the song goes, what are you nuts? :-P It's a brilliant and accurate account of seeing a launch, in particular that first one.

I was introduced to 2112 by being told it was definately worth hanging around for a half hour to hear the *first* song. And how's this for synchronicity, my hotel room last week was 2112.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:20:40 GMT, "LooseChanj" wrote:

It was an interview with the band, I think it was on Rockline. There is a reference to it here: http://www.dreamt.org/spinfrog/FAQ4.html It was the area they viewed the launch from.

I was not terribly pleased with the Signals album. There were only two songs I listened to repeatedly. They did much better with Countdown live.

--Larry

"LooseChanj" wrote:

Not huge. Maybe big, but not huge. People found about about Rush the old-fashioned way, via word-of-mouth and radio airplay. Even throughout 80's MTV, I could count on one hand the times I actually saw "Subdivisions." OTOH, I've lost count of the times I've seen "Dude Looks like a Lady," "Jump," or "Hang Fire." And Rush never achieved the usual pop music plateau of "having arrived" by appearing on SNL or Letterman.

(the more I think about it, the more I suspect that this "underexposure" is intentional. Who knows?)

I was trying to figure out "left and rights of passage, and black and whites of youth" and learning to drive in the same year. Where I grew up Rush was big, in an underground sort of way. But for many the first real exposure to Rush was not "Tom Sawyer" or "Spirit of the Radio"---but that innane Great White North song that Geddy Lee vocaled on.

Saturn

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:48:44 -0600, Saturn wrote:

They were scheduled to be the next guest band on "Fishin' Musician", but SCTV was canceled.

--Larry

"Saturn" wrote in message news:[email]...

Perhaps it's because I've always been far more influenced by the former that I remember Rush being so big. They did kind of fade away as MTV started becoming more and more the marketing arm of the RIAA. I was never really into MTV, and I don't think I've even flipped to the channel in almost 10 years.

Prima donnas tend to be airheads. Substance is so hard man.

I like the Limelight video (which I've seen only yesterday). Those split frames with each band member playing a part are subtly humorous, when you see Alex or Geddy next to themselves.

It's weird, every single friend I've ever had considered Rush one of the best bands. *shrug* Don't forget the version of Oh Canada they did for the South Park soundtrack. You don't have to be an idiot to stick your tongue in your cheek.

Don't mind me, I'm just on a Rush obsession right now.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:22:09 GMT, "LooseChanj" wrote:

If you have any of the tour books from Rush's concerts, Peart's writing about the band is hilarious. His sense of humor is generally dead on. Although, Alex Lifeson's discussion of what wines go best with a riding lawn mower was a classic. It was accompanied by a picture of Alex holding a glass of wine on a riding mower, with someone's arm sticking out from underneath. Geddy Lee likes to through a word or two of Yiddish into the lyrics in concert.

Without a sense of humor, a concert is a sermon with a beat.

--Larry

"Saturn" wrote in message news:[email]...

what about the voice of Geddy Lee. how did it get so high? i wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?

bob

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:25:28 -0000, "john" wrote:

I've heard him in interviews. His voice is a little high, but not unusual otherwise. If you heard him speak you'd never imagine his singing voice.

--Larry

"Larry" wrote in message news:[email]...

then you're my fact checking cuz.

bob

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 03:16:23 -0600, Saturn spewed forth:

No, they get ignored because, except maybe for Tull, they fucking suck.

"Rev. Bleech_" wrote in message > No, they get ignored because, except maybe for Tull, they

Heh heh heh.

Not that I agree with you, but that's one damned convincing argument you pose there. :)

nathan

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:15:51 GMT, "Leaving Hope" spewed forth:

Especially in the case of Yes. *brrrrr*