Well that was quick for renewals Fox just picked up Futurama for 22 more episodes next season. Also it looks like Family Guy will be renewed next week.
Of course in a few weeks with the new Buffy episode this should make for an interesting ratings night.
I think I speak for everyone saying: WOOHOO!!!! (Don't care about Family Guy though) This should stop alt.congif'ers from being so pissed off at this group now at least, maybe AOL will even get it (or do they have it already?)
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:45:34 -0400, John Stone wrote:
Wow. You astound me with the depth of your criticism. The way in which you analyzed the shortcomings and problems of the show has converted me over to your point of view. <sarcasm mode off> The problem with a forum like this is that people feel free to voice their opinions without offering any justification behind them. Why should people take any heed (or for that matter, even care) how you feel about a show when you don't explain the reasoning behind extreme statements (on either end of the spectrum)?
cheers. inviz (who thinks that "Futurama" is just the best show ever!!) In honor of the upcoming 20th Anniversary of Caddyshack, this week's quote comes courtesy of Carl:
'And I said, "Hey Lama, how 'bout a little something, you know, for the effort." And he says, "There won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed,you will receive total consciousness." So I got that going for me which is nice.'
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:03:39 GMT, "Eric Perlin" wrote:
Now, I happen to think Futurama has been ok so far, but it's comments like this that make me really wonder about some of the residents of this newsgroup. Particularly in the Futurama vs. Family Guy debate, I've seen so many people spout off about the low-brow approach of Family Guy.
Let me fill you in on something here: Futurama is not modern art. For God's sake, it's prime time television! I don't know if you were being serious with your comment above, but I'm sick of the snobs on this newsgroup who think that 'their' show is so terrific and anyone else must be a fool for thinking otherwise.
having not yet seen *the family guy*, i feel perfectly qualified to
give my unsolicited opinion. :P
i think the comment by eric above is perfectly legitimate, because
there's nothing wrong with pointing out a matter of intelligence, if
that is indeed what it is. that said, i don't think john (or anyone
else) *has* to be impressed with *futurama* in order to demonstrate
intelligence. maybe he just doesn't like it. maybe he hates
science-fiction.
(maybe he's got a prejudice against differently-sighted women with
purple hair! ;P )
again, having not seen *the family guy*, i can only wonder at its
low-brow approach, but it's a fine line. i happen to have thought it
was brilliantly funny when bender wanted to gamble and find hookers! :D
(i suppose it was the irony of his being a robot, and the shock of such
coarse language, that did it for me. ;P )
i don't think it's a matter of snobbery; i think that members of a newsgroup devoted to futurama will just naturally love their show--and nowhere did eric say it's better than every other show around. all he said was that it was intelligent, which it undeniably is. i should expect members of a group devoted to 8any* show to think it's terrific, but i'm sure dissenters are welcome too. right, folks?
thanks john, eric, and justin, for a good conversation,
robet a. peate, brand new to the group but a lover of the show :P
having not yet seen *the family guy*, i feel perfectly qualified to
give my unsolicited opinion. :P
i think the comment by eric above is perfectly legitimate, because
there's nothing wrong with pointing out a matter of intelligence, if
that is indeed what it is. that said, i don't think john (or anyone
else) *has* to be impressed with *futurama* in order to demonstrate
intelligence. maybe he just doesn't like it. maybe he hates
science-fiction.
(maybe he's got a prejudice against differently-sighted women with
purple hair! ;P )
again, having not seen *the family guy*, i can only wonder at its
low-brow approach, but it's a fine line. i happen to have thought it
was brilliantly funny when bender wanted to gamble and find hookers! :D
(i suppose it was the irony of his being a robot, and the shock of such
coarse language, that did it for me. ;P )
i don't think it's a matter of snobbery; i think that members of a newsgroup devoted to *futurama* will just naturally love their show--and nowhere did eric say it's better than every other show around. all he said was that it was intelligent, which it undeniably is. i should expect members of a group devoted to *any* show to think it's terrific, but i'm sure dissenters are welcome too. right, folks?
thanks john, eric, and justin, for a good conversation,
robet a. peate, brand new to the group but a lover of the show :P
I don't see what's wrong with that. Since FG is obviously a Lowest Common Denominator show and Futurama aims a bit higher than that, I fail to see why one can't point that out.
That some people are going to like more obvious and simple humor is fine, but if they state a preference, I think they should be prepared to be called on it.
*I'm just not impressed with Futurama. I think its garbage but Fox will *keep it around because they don't want to tick off the Simpsons *creator.
Well, they've already ticked him off by trying to impose a lot of changes and moving it to Tuesdays when Groening didn't comply. Somebody might be able to provide the URL to the relevant article...point is, I don't think Fox is bending over backwards to be politic.
Impeccably logical -- Futurama is garbage, but Fox will keep it so that its creator will be on good terms with them (despite being beseiged with pointy-haired "suggestions" and a bad time slot as punishment for noncompliance) and thus willing to produce even MORE garbage for them.
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:45:34 -0400, John Stone wrote:
Yes, TV networks ALWAYS put on money-losing shows just to preserve the feelings of an overly sensitive creative type. We know that network executives and programmers are concerned first and foremost with the emotional well-being of their creative staff, with the 'bottom line' taking second place. *----------------------------------------------------* Evolution doesn't take prisoners:Lizard Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue:AuH20 http://www.mrlizard.com
Scott: You do not speak for me: I find it rather mindless-and a near rip off of his other show.
I rather see/watch a good drama than a toon.
But it seems as it FOX wishes to be the toon and video network. ______________________________________________ Jon To reply: Please use: [email] or ICQ # 948660 Vengeance Unlimited : http://www.wb.com Message Boards Vengeance Unlimited: http://members.aol.com/madsen1fan/sos.htm Mag-7 http://members.aol.com/the7ride/regulators.htm
Then why do you even bother reading this newsgroup? It's generally used by fans of the show, and that's what I meant when I said "everyone in this newsgroup".
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:57:09 -0400, "David E. Sluss" wrote:
Dan Tropea, cross-poster extrodinaire adds another victim to his list. Hee hee.
inviz In honor of the upcoming 20th Anniversary of Caddyshack, this week's quote comes courtesy of Carl:
'And I said, "Hey Lama, how 'bout a little something, you know, for the effort." And he says, "There won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed,you will receive total consciousness." So I got that going for me which is nice.'
"[email] (Dan Tropea)" announced: << Well that was quick for renewals Fox just picked up Futurama for 22 more episodes next season. Also it looks like Family Guy will be renewed next week. >>
Well, I should hope it was quick! Because of the lead time required to have new episodes ready by the fall, they'd have to know RIGHT NOW if they need to start production again. Unless they air the shows live, which hopefully won't put too much strain on the animators' wrists.
<< Of course in a few weeks with the new Buffy episode this should make for an interesting ratings night. >>
Well, I don't have cable, and the WB affiliate in my area is one of those channels that doesn't come in very well (if at all), so I'll stick with "Futurama" for now. And it that's a rerun, I'll head back over to "NewsRadio" and drool over Maura Tierney. Mmmm... Maura...
Rerun? My VCR blew up in a recent power surge, I'm going to catch all the reruns I can get =)
wrote in message news:[email]... "[email] (Dan Tropea)" announced: << Well that was quick for renewals Fox just picked up Futurama for 22 more episodes next season. Also it looks like Family Guy will be renewed next week. >>
Well, I should hope it was quick! Because of the lead time required to have new episodes ready by the fall, they'd have to know RIGHT NOW if they need to start production again. Unless they air the shows live, which hopefully won't put too much strain on the animators' wrists.
<< Of course in a few weeks with the new Buffy episode this should make for an interesting ratings night. >>
Well, I don't have cable, and the WB affiliate in my area is one of those channels that doesn't come in very well (if at all), so I'll stick with "Futurama" for now. And it that's a rerun, I'll head back over to "NewsRadio" and drool over Maura Tierney. Mmmm... Maura...
Is it just me or does the baby character seem seriously out of place in this show? The way he's drawn looks entirely different from the other characters, and what's up with that erudite voice and personality anyway? I think this series would have been good enough without having to bend over backwards for some kind of bizarre South Park rip-off. It just came off as a little awkward to me. Otherwise, I thought it was a decent debut (I certainly liked it better than Futurama).