Season Premiere Not Shown

My local station did not show the season premiere because the football game ran over, then they decided to run promos for local shows to fill the last ten minutes. Does anyone know if Fox plans to show a repeat in the affected time zones?

--Mark

"Mark J. Finegold" wrote:

Sure they will eventualy, look for it either in mid spring or in the summer.

At least I'm lucky. My local Fox had the nerve to join it "already in progress" rather than start it late and in it's entirity. Let's face it: Fox doesn't give a shit to viewers anymore.

Joe Klemm

It would have been easier if they held back the season premiere until January.

Joe Klemm wrote:

Yes they do. To Football Viewers.

You can't expect them to cut to a scheduled show in the final moments of a blurnsball game. Blame the NFL for starting their late games at 4:15. They should be moved back to 4:00 and the 1:00 games should start at 12:30.

Dave wrote:

Well, if the station didn't show the episode, maybe they planned to show it at a different time - like much later that night. (That's what usually happens where I live.)

Did anybody outside of the Atlanta, Tampa, or Washington DC areas have this problem? (These should have been the only cities with "late games" on Fox.)

And to viewers of the other Sunday night shows - they're afraid that if they start their entire schedule late, people will turn on Fox at, say, 9:00, expecting to see "The X-Files", but when they get the middle of "Malcolm in the Middle", they change the channel rather than wait for "The X-Files" to start and then forget to check back later.

Actually, the 4:00 games only start at 4:15 when it's a Fox doubleheader day. (When that happens, Fox simply doesn't schedule an episode for the eastern half of the country, and a repeat for the western half.)

No, it isn't quite that simple. In Boston, the Patriots had a 1:00 game at home, so the Fox station couldn't show a 1:00 game, and we got that lame Arizona-Washington game so that Fox could show at least some football yesterday.

This was probably also the case in Nashville, and possibly Cincinnati (I don't know whether they were sold out or not.) In addition, the Jets played a 1:00 home game, but the Giants also played, so New York probably had 1:00 games on both CBS and Fox, and didn't have a Futurama problem. (Anyone want to confirm that? And send me a video tape?)

Very good point. And if you look at the ratings from Sunday, it makes sense. FOX's viewership increased steadily from Futurama's 5.0 rating/8 share to Hing of the Hill's 6.5/10 to The Simpsons' 10/14 topping out at Malcolm in the Middle's 10.2/14 followed by X-Files' 10.1/14. People turned on FOX at the right times for the shows they wanted to see.

True, some games start at 4:05. I've spent most of my life in the Eastern time zone, never knew how the other half lives. (Shhesh, there's no *way* I could watch a football game at 9:00AM!)

Dave wrote:

How bout blaming FOX for joining another game already in progress so they can stretch into prime time. Or NFL for having the most obtuse time measuring system in the world that even out strips the NBA for the longest measured 2 minutes in a sport.

I think the network can command a higher price for ads aired during a football game than they can for ads airing during Futurama. It's to their financial advantage to air as much football as possible.

Besides, they know football fans are still watching, and what's more exciting to a football fan than *bonus coverage*, the last minute of another ballgame?

Well, the game itself doesn't care what your future plans are. :-)

(And NBA games are generally 2 1/2 hour affairs, nowhere near the 3 1/2+ hours of a typical NFL game.)

Dave wrote:

That's why I hate it.

So then That means that the NFL game's time keeping is worse. Reiterating exactly what I just said.

Your hatred is merely misdirected frustration.

Actually, their time keeping is excellent. What you object to is the amount of time they've chosen to keep.

Dave wrote:

Not really. Always hated Football or any other Ball in possession of the offense game.

If it says 2 minutes that's 2 minutes any time outs are error factors. Making very long 2 minute measures.

Maybe not entirely, but definitely, as I can't recall you being this ugly in previous threads (except for the last time the NFL pre-empted Futurama.) It's nearly impossible not to assume you'd feel animosity towards the entity that causes you to repeatedly miss your TV show. You've decided to hate football, as Attmay has decided to hate FOX. It's only natural. It's human. Unfortunately, so is denial. And I find your smartass responses to Attmay particularly interesting, as the two of you seem to exhibit similar behavior. But s/he's closer to the responsible target.

Well then, I guess that made it so much easier for the sport (which is essentially entirely innocent in this situation) to become your scapegoat and the object of your scorn.

Well, other than baseball, no sport allows the defense to control the ball.

Dave wrote:

Well that's all well and good Frasier. But Just because I haven't bitched constantly doesn't mean I have never hated Football until now. Your making a wildly un-informed personality judgment from far to little data.

I don't care about FOX or Futurama or any of that. That's a whole other problem. This is just about my hatred for Football. Please try to stay on the drifted subject.

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DURH?

I'm not using it as a scapegoat. If you say "Hey lets play Football." I'll say "No I hate Football." How hard is this to understand?

I know.

Sorry. I keep forgetting it's not such a good thing to let intelligence show on Usenet. It's liable to be misinterpreted.

Fine. You've always hated football. The fact that it prevents you from watching a TV show means nothing.

Dave wrote:

Well I don't know about you Pablo, but it didn't prevent ME from watching anything.

Actually the time keeping is quite good, for the networks.

One of the reasons NFL games last so long is because of all the ad time that the networks run. The networks paid tens of millions of dollars to the NFL to get the games. To get back their investment, the networks have to run a lot of ads. So they drag out the time between plays to give the networks time to run the ads. Every time out they go to several commercial. When a player gets injured, they go to a bunch of commercials. When a team scores and kicks the ball off, they go to a bunch of commercials.

The football fans themselves would be a lot happier themselves if the games didn't last so long, and they didn't have to endure all the commercials the networks run.

I doubt that would make the fans happier, as no commercials means no game on TV, and instead of 15 million people seeing a game, only about 70,000 would have the pleasure. But it terms of time, you're right. With no ads, they could play a game in around two hours.

Screw football. Lowbrow sport anyway. Not worth my time. And all the players are either criminals or religious fanatics anyway.

Attmay wrote:

Well what the hell. It's settled then. FOX will just have to stop showing Football then. Im sure they will agree.

Hmm. Not the dumbest thing ever written.

But close.

Dave wrote:

No Dave we rely on you for that.:)

Which, face it, is a much, much larger audience than they get for Futurama.

Wait: How in God's name is that lucky? In case you haven't noticed, buddy, you MISSED the first twenty minutes, as did I and roughly a million other people out there. If they had started late and shown it in its entirety, then we would have NOT MISSED it. I really hope that was sarcasm at work there, and not a brain tumor.

"Mark J. Finegold" wrote in message news:[email]...

Check with your local affiliate (I'm not sure how on a Sunday night). KTVU in the Bay Area sometimes will air pre-empted shows starting between 11:00 PM and 12:00 PM. (Unfortunately, they are not consistent and seem to only do so if they remember pre-empting the show.)

"Fen Phen" wrote:

I also watch KTVU in the bay area, and that practice of re-airing pre-empted primetime shows after the news is a godsend. Hell, even if you can't stay up that late, you're at least guaranteed a viewing if you tape. It makes good sense, the affiliate is guaranteed better ratings than showing dismal re-runs of Cheers or Seinfeld-as do most stations after the evening news. Perhaps the pre-empted East coast audience should start yelling at their affiliates...it can't hurt. (although watching X-Files at 1:00am is a little painful)

BTW, I always check the affiliate's website for programming information. If a pre-emption will take place; it's best to find out on-line- and if a re-air is scheduled; you'll at least be prepared.

I'm glad I live in Colorado now and not Ohio anymore - don't have to worry too much of missing any Futurama due to some stupid football game running over.