http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/05/star.trek.cast/
This will be a character in a new Star Trek series:
Doctor Phlox, an alien medical officer who, unlike the conservative, crotchety Leonard "Bones" McCoy in the original, practices a bizarre brand of new age "Intergalactic medicine" with an "eccentric sense of humor."
If that's not sound like Dr. Zoidberg. I think they also will have a sassy talking robot and a one-eyed woman pilot.
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:22:36 GMT, [email] (Zikron the Insistent) wrote:
I don't believe you! (checking CNN link . . . . . . .), Yup! that's what it says. I don't believe you or CNN. If they were going to try another new Trek series after the Voyager BS, they'd have to be a bunch of cynical, money grubbing, unoriginal, untalented suit wearing, butt kissing, middle management suck ups who have absolutely no appreciation for any aspect of the original series or the next generation except for the money they made.
Come to think of it I do believe you.
I even believe that!
--Larry
"Larry F" wrote in message news:[email]...
But this series will be great! They'll somehow have to figure out how to manufacture props that are LESS technically sophisticated than the technology used on TOS!
VELOUR WILL BE BACK, BABY!
Larry F wrote:
This is the worst part. "For good measure, the creators are throwing in .... and a Southerner who's not familiar with new civilizations."
Hey wait a tick. Why that sounds like Fry. All we need is the sassy robot.
You...are...an...idiot.
I think that was overly crude, but I concur, and think the thread has gone a bit far. First off, if it's a doctor, it must be a rip-off of Zoidberg, they already made up a Cyclops and a Robot, and Fry isn't a Southerner, he's a New Yorker. It'd be a rip-off if he was frozen.
~DarthArada~ "Snuh!" Homer Simpson "We have all the time in the world..." ~George Lazenby/James Bond "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" MUSSOLINI TO EMBARK ON CHEST EXPANSION CAMPAIGN ~The Onion
Which Star Trek had a Cyclops in it?
DGH
TOS had a Cyclops albino gorilla.
Now that's skiffy!
DGH
Just had a quick look at that link... and noticed this phrase:
"The new show, according to the site, will be set before the original series, in the 22nd century, "at a time when starship travel was a relatively new endeavour ... and the universe really was still filled with strange new worlds, new life, and new civilizations."
Will we actually see any stories about such places of will we just another study of regular cast members dealing with personal problems?
Lieutenant Commander Malcolm Reed, a British guy who shares the same title as Montgomery "Scottie" Scott in the original. Unlike Scottie, who struggled to keep the Enterprise -- and himself -- together, Reed will be "spit and polish and by-the-book," as well as "soft-spoken, shy and awkward around women." = we will see more shows of him dating Alien women more then show about him being a Engineer.
I hope this is just rumor.. but really why does going back to the 22nd Century Timeline make any difference as will we actually see anything new??? Not likely!! Less friendly Klingons/Romulans and earlier versions of other races like Cardassians etc.. Voyager never seems to come in contact with anything new and original and they are supposedly lost in a Quadrant no one from Earth has explored before.
The article does not mention a "breakout Character" I can see the Doc being a rather repulsive looking alien where members of the crew would rather treat themselves, then go down to sickbay and let "it" touch them.. This Doc will likely be paired up with the "Southerner who's not familiar with new civilizations" mentioned in the article.
"C Barber" wrote in message news:B6CBBB0C.5204E%[email]...
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What about the Hirogen, Ocampans, Talaxians, Brunali, and Species 8472?
How much of Voyager have you seen?
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Personally? I quit halfway through season 1, after about the third episode that didn't actually "happen"... (yawn)
On 7 Mar 2001 19:11:02 GMT, [email] (Janet F Caires-Lesgold) wrote:
Wow! That's dedication. I didn't make it nearly that long. I watched 1.5 episodes and then decided that video tapes of "Lost in Space" would come closer to science fiction.
The second episode I watched was when the ship got caught inside a black hole and had to use phasers to blast through the event horizon to escape. When I stopped laughing I realized what they had done to Star Trek and I switched it off. I have tried to pretend the whole series never happened.
If you are wondering what's wrong with that scene, please get "The Junior Encyclopedia of Space" and look up black hole and event horizon.
--Larry
So in other words you are an expert on the show; it's content, plots, alien species encountered, etc.
I think he meant that (with the exception of Species 8472), the Voyager still largely runs into humanoid species who speak English and are distinguished mostly by having funny noses or different-shaped bumps on their foreheads.
The original series may have had cheesy effects (because it worked at a fraction of the budget of Voyager) but at least it threw in some interesting aliens into the mix like the Horta, the Tholians, the Gorn, the Excalbians.
Wasn't it in the Voyager "pod race" episode where a supposedly alien ambassador says something to Janeway about "you people from the Alpha Quadrant"? Why would an alien from that part of the galaxy refer to Janeway's home as "the Alpha Quadrant"? It just seems that most of the aliens on the show look, behave and think exactly like human beings from Earth. The original point was to show a remote alien part of the galaxy and have the Voyager crew struggle to survive. Well, the Delta Quadrant hasn't been all that strange and survival is really pretty easy. Just kick back on the holodeck!
jeffbond wrote on 2001-03-08 1:50:
If I remember correctly, there was an explanation for the wide spread of the humanoids somewhere in TNG. The language is just the translation of the computer. I dont think many people would appreciate it if all the aliens speak just foreign babble (there is enough of that when explaining technical difficulties :-) ) with subtitles. So I believe it is a good compromise ... I think a series like that should deal with interesting ideas not interesting aliens (only if there is such an idea behind it).
There are a number of flaws in Star Trek especially on Voyager, but the "mostly human" factor is not one of them.
It's really not the PRESENCE of humanoids (which IS explained in the third season of TOS) on Voyager I object to but the way in which they are presented and performed. They are too much taken for granted and in most cases the actors make very little attempt to play them as anything but ordinary people. In the old series there was a certain formality to the language and acting that at least gave you the impression that these were not just ordinary people--look at Reggie Nalder as the Andorian ambassador in "Journey to Babel"--a positively creepy, skeletal character who really did appear alien. A lot of the problem is casting. You need a good character actor (James Cromwell has played some interesting aliens for TNG and DS9) to do these roles, not just anyone from Actor's Equity. What did we get last week--Donny Most as an evil alien. Ralph Malph from Happy Days with some rubber on his nose. Sorry, but that's just pathetic.
I am in complete agreement with you. Remember the aliens Picard had to battle with a treaty while Data saved the Colonists below? Now there was some different aliens. Voyager has been completely pathetic in devloping aliens of note. They all seem to be pretty human. The only ones that were interesting were the Vidiians and the really big hunter guys. (Sorry, not enough of a trekker to remember all the names)
J T Kirk
In article , "J T Kirk" wrote:
the Hirogen?
agree about the Vidiians, though. Perhaps the creepiest moment on the series was when the Vidiian scientist showed up wearing Ensign Durst's face....
On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:20:40 -0800, jeffbond wrote:
How can you have Ralph Malph with no Potsie? I remember Ralph wearing a red devil's outfit in CHiPs.
One of the best ST guest stars was the late Ray "Mr. Hand" Walston. But they wasted Kelsey "Sideshow Bob" Grammar in ST:TNG and Jason "Duckman" Alexander was very forgettable in Voyager.
And there was that race of intelligent dinosaurs that wanted to hide the fact they were originally from Earth. I like dinosaurs, so that was kind of neat. And I don't really see all that many stories about intelligent dinosaurs, especially ones cruising through space in starships. I don't think they have even done a show about spacefaring dinosaurs on Futurama yet, have they?
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:32:32 -0700, OmegaMan wrote:
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
The Malon storyline sucked, i am not a particular fan of "Juggernaut" (sorry it was crap!)
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 03:58:01 -0500, Alex Cain wrote:
I blow my dark-matter tanks in your general direction.
"Boldly going forward, cause we can't find reverse"
Sorry, couldn't resist...