1ACV04: Leela crawls back to Brannigan like a bird on his belly, he tells her to ask for help sexier, she says "pleeez big C" but Zapp�s name starts with a Z! shouldnt it be "pleeez big zed"? when bender is buying venusian slug and the man wants to sell fry an X-Ray eye: Fry says: hey this is C-Ray. Man: its just as good, two more than X ...) again: its a Z-Ray eye. why do they call it C-Ray?
Shadow
Oy, again with the hearing stuff wrong. She DID say "big Z". Where did "zed" come from? Also, Fry DOES say "Z ray", clear as a bell.
Is your Babel fish jammed?
Willy Pete wrote:
The correct English pronounciation for "z" is "zed". "zee" is American and if you're not familiar with that (especially if you're not native English speaking, like Shadow and me), it's easy to mess it up with "c".
Actually, the correct English pronunciation for "z" is "zee". "zed" is British.
I'm still trying to figure out where the "d" sound comes from. "z" is "z", not "z-e-d".
"Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."
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dumb children with no parental supervision, and access to a hammer.But it sounds more logical to me coz in my mother language (German) Z is pronounced something like "tsett" (the e spoken like in "bed")
But _now_ I know... if we only got taught American English at school...
Shadow
Huh? I assume that you're joking. Z pronounced as 'zee' is found ONLY in the USA. The entire rest of the English-speeking wourld uses the original 'zed'.
I believe it was precicely to avoid confusion between C and Z.
Another wrongly changed letter is H. It should be pronounced 'haitch', but the initial h was dropped in North America, making the pronounciation totally meaningless.
Bill
World?
And you may continue to call it what you will, ignoring how silly you sound, and the US will continue to see "z" for what it is, a single letter with a single sound.
There ain't no 'd' in 'zee'.
We haven't bothered with the metric system so there's no reason we should mess around with the sounds of our letters.
As North America goes, so goes the rest of the English speaking world.
So why won't you follow us on the 'zee' thing?
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:26:22 -0400, Dave wrote:
Yeah, also your driving on the wrong side of the road, having a unique culture and a different flag and so on. It's almost like you're not Americans at all!!
BTW: I AM joking. I can't speak for anyone else here.
And there ain't no 'U' in 'color'! So go out and burn all your copies of Dark Side of the Moon in protest!!
Were do you get "WE"?? I've been using the metric system for years. Our insistence on old measurement systems has cost us dearly in the export market. Given out massive trade deficit, this is a serious issue. The recent loss of the Mars Polar Orbiter is believed to be due to the use of two measurement systems during construction.
Congress (Congress is, well, do you have idiots in your country . . .) passed legislation converting the US to metric. That was over 100 years ago.
"You're in America now. Speak Spanish!" --Paul Rodriguez
We gave you a perfectly good language and look what you've done to it.
--Larry-
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ONLY in
native English
"c".
"z" is
world.
What beats me is how the americans pronounce 'route' (ie by saying 'rout' - rhyming with 'out' instead of rhyming with 'root') If that's the case then how do americans pronounce 'rout' (meaning 'A disorderly retreat or flight following defeat')
In article , [email] writes:
Not always. It is frequently, when speaking about a course that you'd travel, or a roadway name, pronounced as 'root' (e.g., what route did you follow to get to work?) It tends to be pronounced as in 'out' when used as a verb (e.g., how are you going to route that wire?) But I've heard both pronunciations used in each context.
'rout' rhymes with 'out'. 'route' can rhyme either 'root' or 'rout'.
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did you
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both
'rout'.
I didn't realise it could be used both ways. Must be confusing though, having two words that are sometimes pronounced the same but mean entirely different things(?)
At least the tomato/toma(y)to pronunciation refer to the same meaning (for example).
In article , [email] writes:
There are many examples of that.
right - direction right - correct write - write :)
left - direction left - past tense of verb to leave
leaves - 3rd person singular of verb to leave leaves - foliage
I'm sure that there are many examples in other languages as well...
How about:
Two - 2 To - as in, "go to school" Too - also
"Papa" in Spanish can mean either Pope or potato, depending on whether it is capitalized or not. The pronunciation, I believe, is the same.
I haven't brought it to the attention of anyone here in Mexico, though.
And its "El Papa" for the Pope and "la papa" for potato, in other languages than English there is often a big difference between the female and the male form of the article.
Ciao, Stephan
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:42:52 GMT, [email] wrote:
Rout (meaning, "RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!") generally rhymes with route (when it doesn't rhyme with root). I don't hear the word rout used very commonly, but I don't watch sports news.
Now, here's a disturbing thought: If route, meaning the path you take, is pronounced like 'root' then a router, meaning a machine that routes data on the internet, would be pronounced 'rooter'. Which would confuse it with a rooter, meaning a machine used to unclog drains.
"Call Robo Rooter if you flush a towel, And we can also help with an impacted bowel" --Futurama
--Larry
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But the correct *English* way to pronounce router is 'rooter' as defined in the Oxford/Cambridge English dictionary (which is a dictionary for the real English language routed (rooted!) in England from where English comes from!
[email]
Hardly universal. There's an _old_ song, (I forget the artist, have
to check Napster) called "Route 66" (a famous highway in the US), in which
"route" rhymes with "root". This is the pronunciation I hear most often (in
the South.)
This is possibly related to the phenomenon that "southern" English,
as spoken in the deep South of the US, is, in some places, supposed to be
even closer to what English sounded like in England back in the days of the
(admittedly mythical) King Arthur, than what you UK folk sound like now.
There was some special on one of the documentary channels (Discovery,
probably) that went into this; seems that some county way back up a holler
(small valley) in Tennessee is the place with this "ancient" sound...but
hey, how could you _really_ know?Tomato, tomatoe...;)
tt Robert (who always wondered what the heck "zed" was from reading HitchHiker's Guide. Hell, I thought it was for "dash" or "slash" or some other punctuation. ;)
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When the americans turned 'Z' from Zed to Zee why did they not replace 'H' from aitch to "huh" to follow the same path? (and 'W' could become 'wee')
...or something.
"The Metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!"
Seriously, though, the metric system's great and all, but it's got its flaws. Who wants to have to check out of a clothes store with a pair of pants labelled " WAIST:78 "?
Willy Pete wrote:
But who want's to waste time figuring out how many inches are in a hectare? Besides you go way faster with the metric system. 100Kph. on the freeway. That sounds a lot faster don't it?
In alt.tv.futurama, on the "Re: Z-Pronounciation" thread, Mike Zaite wrote:
Yes, but you get much worse fuel economy, since you now have to by gasoline by the liter, rather than the US gallon.
The only thing I'm comfortable purchasing by the liter is soda.
How come that's the only thing that took off? They don't sell anything else by the liter.
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dumb children with no parental supervision, and access to a hammer.On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:59:02 -0400, Dave wrote:
Back in the days of glass 1 quart bottles, 7 Up started selling 1 liter bottles, heavily advertising the extra 1.8 oz in their bottle. They also used chubby bottles that looked bigger too. Other companies soon followed.
Willy Pete wrote:
So is 'hogshead' pronounced hogs-head or hog-shed?
Bill
its just like in lord of the flys
if z is zed is b,bed is d, dead? f,fed? h, head? j , jed? n , ned?
i dont know why we picked e for the vowel sound on our letters anyway why not a and call it fonzie alphabet
try saying the alphabet with a as ther vowel sound it could work til you get to letter g
ya know what they call LEGO in china 0937 email me it ya figure that out
Actually, it should be 'aitch'. It certainly is in the Collins English dictionary that I've got!
Darren Prescott wrote:
How can the pronunciation of a letter be "meaningless"? It's just a symbol. What about the sound for "Y"--which starts with a "W" sound? What about "W"? That's really unusual--starts with a "D" sound. . . .
In alt.tv.futurama, on the "Re: Z-Pronounciation" thread, Deacon wrote:
Actually, that's a pretty sensible name, since a "w" looks a little like two "u"s pushed together. ("Double-u," get it?) If I remember my high-school Spanish correctly, this character is called "ve doble (double 'v')," which makes even more sense.
but I don't think anybody has asked the really important question yet.
In Europe, is ZZ Top called Zed Zed Top?
Lyle
Shadow wrote in message ...
Hi, The confusion is because of pronunciation. In England Z is pronounced zed, but in America - zee. You may just be mis-hearing. That is why you'll probably get lots of rude messages from Americans. Also Futurama is made in America (unfortunately)
BFN, CF
Considering the last good thing to come out of the BBC was "Black Adder", you should be happy to be getting shows from America.
Kat
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