opinions?

Apr 26, 2001, 3:47 PM ET22 posts by 10 posters
22 posts
luther

ok, let's say you are putting all of your Futurama episodes onto VCDs so you can play them on the computer, on the DVD player, whatever. You fit three per CD (each is about a 220Mb MPEG).

Would you put them in the order they were originally broadcast in, or in the order of the production #s?

And why?

In either case, the first 7 VCDs would be the same... but everything after that would be different. If you did it in production order, CD #12 would be missing "A Tale of Two Santas" of course. Maybe they'll throw that onto the DVDs when they release them?

Larryluther

On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:47:56 -0700, "luther" wrote:

Good question. I thought about it for a while and decided to go in the order they were aired.

I generally start downloading new episodes the night they are aired. If I want to keep them in production order, I would need to hold more data on my hard drive until missing eps are aired.

In the long run, I will put all the episodes on a single FMD disk and buy an FMD drive for my computer and an FMD video player for the livingroom.

FMD should hit the market by the end of 2001. The discs are the same physical size as a DVD / CD and hold 140 GB (not a typo, 140 GB!). The technology is working and demonstrated, the whole project is in the early marketing stages right now.

http://www.byte.com/feature/BYT20000218S0003

--Larry

Cletus the slack-jawed yokelLarry

(wipes drool off keyboard)

Wow. It's difficult to imagine just how much data that is, especially for a first-generation disc. The developer, Constellation 3D, at

http://www.c-3d.net/

says that they expect 1 TB discs to follow!

Willie

"Willie" schrieb

Oh no, not really. When I got to know PCs their hard drives had 20 MB or less, and nowadays I have no problems to fill a 45gb hard drive. 1 TB is a challange, but it's not impossible. *g*

Paul TomkoMichael Herzog

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You had a hard drive? Luxury! Mine had one 5 1/4" floppy. I think it held 256K or 512K or something. At any rate, it was enough to run Lotus 1-2-3, or Flight Simulator. Flight Simulator was originally made by a company called Sublogic. That's why it was reasonably compact. It wasn't until Mickeysoft bought it that it began to bloat.

Paul

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Well, I was sticking to the PC environment. My TRS-80 CoCo also had a tape drive.

Paul

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LarryCletus the slack-jawed yokel

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:48:24 GMT, Willie wrote:

When CD ROM first came out I thought "Wow I could put all my floppies (5.25s & 3.5's) onto one disk". What I could possibly do with a second one was beyond me. Now I'm thinking "At 1T All my CDRs would fit on one or two disks, and my entire music collection in MP3 format would fit on another one or two more. What more could I possibly need . . . "

C64!! Pure pampering!! My very first machine was the APF Imagination Machine. Try finding anyone else that had one of those. If the C64 (which I had much later on) was the poor mans Apple ][, then the imagination machine was the really poor man's C64. It was a hybrid cartridge video game (for which only two or three carts ever came out) and a computer. The keyboard unit, which had a built in cassette drive, connected to the video game part which had a 6510 (same as a C64) and 21K of memory.

And I liked it fine!

After I had my first IBM clone with a 15 MHZ V20 (a clone of an 8088), 1MB of memory and a 20 MB HDD, I managed to get a Digital VT-78 with 4K RAM and two 8" Floppies. I eventually stripped it for the gold plated pins and kept one of the floppy drives just for show.

I think the C64, with it's ~1.45MHZ 8 bit 6510, Did more with the power it had than any machine built since.

But if tell the kids today that and . . .

--Larry

Cletus the slack-jawed yokelLarry

1 TB is a HUGE amount of data. For example, the Library of Congress has around 18 million books. At 1/2 MB each (the average of the 224 e-books on my HD) that's 9 TB. Add illustrations, and the total goes up to maybe 10 TB (something like 10 million illustrations in total times 100K each). Remember that scene in 'Mars University' where all literature goes onto 2 discs, Fiction and Non-Fiction? We will soon be coming close to that...

[Abe Simpson] In my day, we couldn't afford 8 bits in a byte! We got 4, maybe 3, and liked it! [/Abe Simpson] I agree. Look at what those early programs did, on a tiny fraction of the resources of todays bloatware.

Willie

LarryCletus the slack-jawed yokel

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:54:18 GMT, Willie wrote:

It'll probably be more like Fiction, Non-fiction and Asimov Vo1 1 & 2.

--Larry

Willie wrote:

Little known fact, 4 bits is a nybble.

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LarryOmegaMan

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:38:02 -0700, OmegaMan wrote:

It's been a while since I've heard that term. There was also a small program that was used to edit the system's kernel known as a nibbler.

--Larry

Paul TomkoLarry

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I'm still getting over large hard disks. I've only got a 8 GB hard disk on my current PC, and it isn't even 1/4 full. I haven't even felt the need to get a CDR yet.

Paul

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k.osLarry

Larry F wrote:

I know what you mean... Programming on the c64 used to be: How do we make this playable (or usable) with the limited resources I have. Now if it runs too slow, run it on a faster computer. I mean the whole 1.5 Gigahertz Chips & 3d cards w/ 64-128mb ram is just ridiculous but it's the INTEL-MS racket. I wish Amiga hadn't gone belly up... A computer like the amiga with 1.5ghz, 384 mb ram & so on would probably be able to teleport you someplace but now with our beloved PCs we're good for at least six months before it's completely obsolete & useless ;-) Gotta love it...

*-) K.os
Michael HerzogPaul Tomko

"Paul Tomko" schrieb

And I had 8 Mhz instead of 4.7, poor man! ;)

lutherMichael Herzog

My first computer did not have any kind of storage. It had 4kB RAM. Then I got a tape drive... then later spent $800 on a floppy drive that stored maybe 100k or so...?

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Willie wrote: >The developer, Constellation 3D, at http://www.c-3d.net/ says that they >expect 1 TB discs to follow! That is such a ridiculous amount of space, it seems to be almost in excess. I suppose it might be useful if one were to edit full length
Michael ZaiteDoctor Worm

Doctor Worm wrote:

I do it with 20GB 1 1/2 hour. So 1TB would still be way more then you need. Unless your doing uncompressed video or something. In which case you would need massive throughput on that drive.

Mike Zaite ICQ:25758172 "...Glorious sunset of my heart was fading. Soon the super karate monkey death car would park in my space. But Jimmy has fancy plans... and pants to match. The monkey clown horrible karate round and yummy like cute small baby chick would beat the donkey. "-Jimmy James, News Radio
LarryMichael Zaite

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:34:14 GMT, Mike Zaite wrote:

The 1TB version of the drive will use a large number of layers. I think the current estimate is 100 layers. Plus the density per layer will be about 15 times greater than a CD. If the disk moves at 1X CD speed, it could read 1500X faster. Assuming all the layers are read a once with individual lasers. I really doubt that they will hit that speed, but it is possible to read and write very quickly. At least in theory. There will be a more likely bottle neck at the PCI interface.

On TechTV a while back they were discussing there video system. They use a huge raid array to load in 1 uncompressed segment (between commercials) and when it's edited, they dump it to make room for the next one. I think it was close to 2GB per minute.

--Larry

Cletus the slack-jawed yokelLarry

The website says that by reading each layer simultaniously, they should get readout rates of 1 GB/s.

Willie

Michael Zaiteluther

luther wrote:

I'd go by air date. Most TV collections are by air date. And sometimes the plot is made out of production order.

Mike Zaite ICQ:25758172 "...Glorious sunset of my heart was fading. Soon the super karate monkey death car would park in my space. But Jimmy has fancy plans... and pants to match. The monkey clown horrible karate round and yummy like cute small baby chick