Hi, I'm new, but I had to come post. Last night's "Futurama" made this grown man cry. We've had our dog for twelve years now, and after the show ended, I had to go spend some time petting and talking to our dog. Anyone else? What a sad ending. Tell me again, why this show is on at 7PM and now 8 or 8:30??!
Me too. I haven't cried in 25 years. After last night's ep, a teal rolled down my cheek. Then another, and another, and pretty soon I was actually sobbing into the pillow!! I cried for like ten minutes. And I've never even owned a dog!
Same here, and I can't even remember the last time I cried. I keep saying to myself "IT'S JUST A FREAKIN' CARTOON!!!", but that doesn't even help. I don't even own a dog. And I ended up crying in front of my mountain biking buddies, how sad is that? I guess even reminders of an unexplainable, unconditional love and devotion towards someone or something in the animated world can touch something deep within us in the real world.
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I've never had any feelings of affection towards dogs and don't expect that to change soon. Maybe that's because when i was five i was attacked by a dog the size of a grown man. I'll stick with cats thank you.
i don't have/like dogs, although i do have a cat that was sitting in my lap purring during that final depressing scene. So i spent extra time with her.
Wish i knew the breed in english. We call them 'bernhardilainen'.. A kind of dog that looks like a couch with something woolly on it and is equally big.
A St. Bernard? They're generally very loving, benevolent dogs. They're generally in the 180-220 LB range....I find it hard to believe that the dog was out to hurt you - a dog like that could crush an ADULT in 3 seconds flat. (=
I'm curious yet again - had the dog been abused or something? All dogs have been bred to be friendly with people (though some only bond to their owners)....and St. Bernards are one of the friendliest, sweetest breeds (on the whole). They're related to Mastiffs, and generally love kids, etc....
I do have a bit of a bias here, though - I've got 3 dogs that are all quite large. (;
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:42:00 GMT, "Avar1ce" wrote:
One of our neighbors had a St Bernard when I was a kid. It attacked one of our dogs. It was the owners, not the dog that was to blame and fortunately, no one was seriously hurt.
Our dog was a mid sized Siberian Husky, and I was big enough to keep him under control. The neighbors used to let two little (very little) girls take the St Bernard out to play. They saw me walking our dog and ran over to take the St Bernard out too. Then they yell to me "we're walking (whatever his name was) so you'd better take your dog inside". Before I could even turn around, he pulled the little girls over and lunged on top of our dog. Our husky turned and bit back, missing the right eye by less then an inch. I pull our dog out and ran him home.
Since both dogs were males, they shouldn't have been out together unless both of them were with a handler capable of controlling them. On his own, that St Bernard was gentle enough to play with little children. But, a capable handler should be there.
I was myself attacked and bitten by a large dog when I was 4 or 5. But, that didn't dampened my affinity for dogs, especially large breeds.
I don't have my own dog, only because I don't have the time and money to take proper care of one. I have baby sat for malamutes, 75% timber wolves and other large dogs and rarely have any problem with them.
I was raised around large dogs, mostly German shepherds. Our fist dog was a distant descendant of Rin Tin Tin.
It usually is the owners' fault. One of our three dogs is a bull mastiff cross. He was viciously attacked by two dogs when he was about 7 months old - caused him physical and emotional trauma. Now he's afraid of any dogs he doesn't know, and tries to fight them....a real shame, because he's such a sweet animal underneath. He seems to be getting better, though. He has his own chiropracter,homeopathic vet,behaviourist and Reiki master. (;
Damn, sounds a bit freaky...I've broken up a lot of dog fights. It can get pretty nuts when small dogs go at it, but stepping in between 250 lbs of snapping carnivore can be pretty dangerous...
Depends on the dogs. Some male dogs are pretty chilled out (e.g. 2/3 of ours ;)....but the little girls shouldn't have been out alone with the Bernard. (;
Yep, agreed. Small children should not be taking ANY dogs out on their own...especially not a 180+ lb St. Bernard with a dog aggression problem.
I think most people have had negative experiences with dogs. It's unfortunate that many people become afraid of ALL dogs after such an incident, though. It's even more unfortunate that humans (irresponsible breeders and owners) are responsible for most canine emotional issues.
Large breeds, you say? Well, I never pass up an excuse to blab about our dogs....we've got a great dane, a great dane/bull mastiff cross, and a bullmastiff/english mastiff cross. (=
The great dane is just a pup (8 months), but he's way bigger than the other two (who are both 100+ lbs).
Here's a picture of the dane puppy (at ~4 months old), if you're interested... http://eno.servehttp.com/Loki.jpg
And the other two: http://eno.servehttp.com/Zeus.jpg (1.25 yrs, bullmastiff/english mastiff/rottie) http://eno.servehttp.com/Kody.jpg (2+ yrs, bullmastiff/great dane)
Personally, I quite like malamutes and wolves/wolf crosses. One of my good friends has a Wolf/Malamute cross. They are a lot more work when they're pups though, and take a very strong owner. Once they learn their place, though, they're awesome pets....the same as any well-raised dog. (:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:22:47 GMT, "Avar1ce" wrote:
I pulled him out by his leash and ran for it. We were close our house and just ran inside. Then the owners were told that they should not let the little kids take the dog out to play without an adult. I think they moved not to long after that.
Actually, whenever two dogs are introduced, they should be on a leash and well controlled. Two males are more likely to have a problem, but it's certainly not 100%. Two females are the least likely to have a problem, but don't take it for granted.
Almost always some mop on legs or an oversized rat with a thyroid condition type of dog. If the entire animal is smaller than the brain of the species it was bred from, something has to be missing. Since that one instance in childhood, I've never been bitten by a large dog.
I had a roommate a while back with a super mellow 75% wolf hybrid. She became very good friends with my neighbor's black Great Dane. Unfortunately, the vet said the puppies might be too large for her to deliver. I was first on the list for a puppy if she could.
Danes have extremely expressive faces. Marmaduke isn't much of an exaggeration. My neighbor's dog was a big whiner. Probably because my neighbor was big whiner too.
You gotta be careful with wolf mixes. They are smarter than domestic breeds. A wolf can think in abstract terms, to a limited degree. Domestic dogs really don't. So they are able to solve problems that a domestic dog wouldn't. Like, how to get around a gate latch.
I would definitely get a hybrid if / when I do get a dog. I have a friend who's worked with them professionally and he'd help me with raising it. I've dealt with adults for extended periods and didn't have any serious problems.
They sound like pretty irresponsible parents & dog owners.
Depends on the dogs....the vast majority of city dogs (here, anyways) are so socialized and are very used to large groups of dogs...i.e. doggy park environments.
Agreed, a lot of small dogs have aggression issues....but have you noticed how most of their owners are? And the practice of picking the dogs up when other dogs come near....probably leads to feelings of superiority.
That's too bad - I'm sure they would've been very interesting pups. (=
That they do. Danes are also the biggest babies on the planet, and ours is no exception.
Yep...and they can be quite a handful when they're pups. They're awesome pets if they're raised properly, though. Definately not for everyday dog owners - same with malamutes, huskies, etc...
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 23:18:52 GMT, "Avar1ce" wrote:
I live out in the suburbs. Most dogs have there own backyards. Walking is only for exercise and fun. So, a lot of dogs only come in contact occasionally.
I've seen many dogs wandering unleashed at concert parking lots. Everyone swears their dog is a "good lot dog", but fight still break out.
50% dane, 37.5% wolf, 12.5% husky - malamute. Huge head and huge feet!
St Bernards are going through a period of being ruined again in the US - I'd assume the same thing has/is happening in other places especially if they are as popular as in the US. In the 70's, they were bred horribly and many lines were absolutely viscious, but in the 80's/90's they were back to the good loving dogs they used to be. Unfortunately, they are becoming more popular so a *lot* of poorly bred lines are turning into shit again.
Same thing that happened to Labs - we heard so many comments of amazement about our laid back labs from vets who had only been seeing super hyperactive and often nasty labs. Ours were (well, one still is, the other is happily eating tasty homemade chicken and rice 24/7 in doggy heaven) so good you could tug on their ears, lay down on top of them, put your hand in their food bowl while they were eating, and harass them while they were sound asleep. Unfortunately, backyard breeders are making it so that you'd get your head/hand removed if you tried half of it.
Oh, ok - I had no idea they were that popular in the US. Similar things have happened to dalmations, pit bulls, golden retrievers, and more recently, bull mastiffs....such a shame. ):
That's pretty unfair...would you blame an entire ethnic group if one or two members of said group did something nasty to you?
Rotties by nature are, without a doubt, one of the most people-friendly breeds there are. Don't blame the breed, blame the idiots who perpetuate bad breeding practices, not to mention the many abusive owners. It seems like a lot of shelters have a disproportionately high number of Rottie or Rottie-cross dogs....