It just wont be the same . . .
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It just wont be the same . . .
News article courtesy of :
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Anonymous wrote:
Well, the URL takes you to a real webpage with real information, but I couldn't find the article which says this.
You know, given how badly they've been doing Ross in the past two years, I don't even care that much?
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In my opinion, it's utter bullshit. Ross HAS to stay until the series is over.
Tifa Lockheart
In article , Claire Abraham wrote:
I am forced to agree. At this point he's the only cast member I actively dislike (though Rachel is starting to catch up fast). I just hope they give him a happy and *dignified* sendoff and that he comes back occasionally for guest shots.
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This cannot be true, since earlier this year the entire main cast signed contracts to make the next TWO seasons, that is 7 & 8.
Tennant
I agree with Tennant on this. remember? thay all signed that contract, and they said it was gonna be all or none
Don't believe this. Nobody has any real proof!!!
He DID sign the new contract, and he will probably stay on for the next season, since it will most likely be the last.
nbcz
PS - notice how this person didn't want to be recognized...
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All "Anonymous" was trying to do is generate traffic to his site. It was fairly obvious.
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hi!
am i the only one who LOVES ross? if there is anybody who should be thrown out, it must be monica!!!!!!
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karin wrote:
I was the loudest, most long-winded, most careful and concentrated Ross enthusiast on this board for several years; I'll still defend his position if I think there's a real error in logic or grossly unfair double standards being pitched by people who criticize him. But it's like Friends is actually two television shows; seasons one through four were called Friends; Ross was a likeable doofus who pined for Rachel, won her with his sweet nature and lost her with his insecurity, then ultimately moved on and married somebody else as Rachel sat to wonder what she'd thrown away. Seasons five, six and seven are the spinoff, the Chandler and Monica show. Chandler and Monica are the only important characters, and most of the characters are very different from the incarnation in the previous series. Chandler is henpecked, but not funny; Monica is shrill and hypercompetitive, but her maternal streak and her compassion seem to have vanished. Ross was rewritten as a pathological liar, half out of his mind, frightening, unstable, and very self-destructive. The man who played Ross the first four seasons was a talented guy with a lot of range in the emotions he showed. The guy doing Ross now is awful Johnny-one-note. Rachel has been aimless and dull, even though her extraordinary actress still manages to milk every barren, stupid line for whatever glimmer of a smirk she possibly can get out of it. Phoebe has developed a vicious streak. Only Joey is still exactly as he was, and he now presents almost every inch of charm the Chandler and Monica show has. It is true that the first season of the Chandler and Monica show was funny and effective - but Joey was a pivotal player in the secret romance that spurred that season's success.
Seriously, Claire, tell us how you *really* feel! :))) J/K. I think the Ross we are seeing in season 7 is not as unstable, just foolish and annoying. His role has been quite insignificant this year and his stories are just fluff, not unlike Phoebe, Joey and sometimes Rachel. Monica was a terror in the 701 episode but she seems to have toned it down a little since then. I just get the impression that this is now the Chandler and Monica Show (plus their 4 "wacky" friends). But this has all been said before.
Laurie
I'm still amazed that Ross got three women to marry him.
:-)
Sue
[email] wrote:
Oh, I understand how he got Carol to marry him. I can see how Emily might not have been out of the realm of possibility.
You notice Rachel had to be drunk. :-)
wonderfully said, claire. I agree. As i mentioned before, i wouldn't be surprised if these writers have not even seen seasons 1-4. It's a disgrace!!
In article , [email] (SHNOCODY) wrote:
I guess you're joking, but that is evidently not the case.
Tennant
Claire Abraham wrote:
This is excellent. A sharper more eloquent summary of the show to date I've yet to read. Although my views are not exactly parallel with yours Claire, I couldn't have said it better myself just how I feel about Friends. My main concern is for season 7 since I haven't seen it yet. I was hoping it would draw a line under the seemingly experimental nature of -6- and get back to the Friends, I for one, know and love. If what you say is true then this is a forlorn hope. Not only are the whims of bored individuals with strutting egos, dictating how their characters should be written still holding sway, but it also appears we can again expect more of the comic brilliance from writers a Christmas cracker could put to shame :( Yeah, I know they're not that bad- I just liked the line :)
Obviously I'll reserve final judgement until I've actually seen the new season for myself but it doesn't look good. If anyone thinks I'm way out of line here please feel free to tell me. I really would like some opinions on how season 7 compares so far to the others providing it's done without spoilers. A quick way would be to award marks out of ten. Anyone?
Anthony
Anthony Cleary wrote:
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Yes. Claire has a very intuitive grasp and a way with words that sums up how many fans feel about the entire trending of the "Friends" phenomenon.
Personally, I think the jury is still out on Season 7. The ability to discern trends requires the ability to look back upon a situation, scenario, or event, and compare it to other known instances of the same. We only had a half-dozen or so episodes, so a trend is tough to discern. Has it been awesome? No. Has it flopped? No. Not yet anyway. Will I be suprised if it flops? No. Will I be suprised if it astounds and absolutely blows me away with it's creativity and humor? Yes.
So, in a nutshell, I'm not expecting much, and I haven't been disappointed. But it's still good to watch, and is funny to some level.
Randy Hinds wrote:
She certainly does have a way with words (as do several others on this NG) and I think the only significant difference between us is the extent to which the direction of the show, her comments so accurately described, affects our enjoyment of it.
After reading your comments I'm led to believe that I can expect to feel much the same about season 7 as I did about -6-. Trends started last year are continuing this year and will continue to be very irritating- at least for me. This is fine so far as it goes, as I never considered season 6 to be a total disaster. It certainly had its moments and there was enough going on to sustain my interest. It just seemed there was a whole lot of nothing in between the good bits made worse by the irritation I described. All I can say is that it appears a slight lowering of expectation is required now to avoid disappointment later.
Anthony
I've enjoyed all of the seasons more or less. There are some great episodes and then there are some that aren't funny at all. (But you knew that already.)
After season 6, I was well aware that the show wasn't as funny as it was in e.g. the beginning of season 5. There was a period in season 6 where the show seemed to lose its steam, but then the sweeps episodes came, which I loved.
I guess that some of the fans out there are more critical than me, but I didn't have as big expectations before season 7 as season 6. Having seen all the eight episodes so far (and that is not thanks to the Norwegian TV-channels...), I have to say that the season has been a rather pleasant surprise. There have been some episodes that I've loved, and there have been episodes I've found awfully boring.
Hopefully, the show will surprise me with some episodes just as good as the ones I really enjoyed.
Marita wrote:
It's true. But in all honesty the only episodes I've actively disliked were in season 6.
Certainly true to say the season got better towards the end.
Expectation is the key here. I can see that you've tried to give a balanced view on the season so far and it's good to know that you've found something to like. In truth, I'm quite happy to settle for the cautious note of optimism you've sounded. I had been expecting much worse.
I hope so too.
Anthony
The show was built around Monica & Ross. A throwaway would probably be Joey or Phoebe.
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Not JOey!!!! AARRRGGGHHH <suddenly revealing herself as a closet Joey fan...>
Joey a throwaway? Please he is the only character(to me) who has improved through the 7 seasons and still sticks to his character from Season 1. Phoebe might be a throwaway, I mean her character seemed to change after she had gave birth to Frank and Alice's kids.
Matt
Yes, but in the beginning, he wasn't very important..he hasn't had very many important storylines either. At least Phoebe had The triplets story.
But without Monica or Ross, you have have no foundation and the group would never have come together.
The show focuses on Monica's apartment. They hang out there at least half the time. Ross is her Brother. Rachel was her best friend. Phoebe was her roommate. The gang got introduced to Chandler via Ross, and Joey became Chandler's roommate, who Monica wanted him to choose. You can argue that one, but without Monica, there is no show.
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I don't think it really matters at this point who was linked to who. They're all best friends now...anyone could be lifted, but Joey and Phoebe make the most sense. Ross, Rachel, Chandler, or Monica wouldn't be lifted because of the histories of R&R and C&M. I guess they could be, but it probably just wouldn't work. J&P lift out more easily.
I think that seems kind of unfair to Joey and Phoebe not being able to be a couple so they can be an IMPORTANT part of Friends considering most of the the people here think a "Joey and Phoebe" relationship is a bad idea.
Matt
Agreed, it will be much better. I have been reviewing this season's episodes on iaffectTV.com telling them to stop making him such an idiot anyway, so if they totally write him out, then so be it.
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