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My favourite couple is C&M, with R&R a close second.
I consider myself one of the most loyal Ross & Rachel fans, which is partly why I don't like the suggestion of Joey & Rachel becoming a couple.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
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Ross & Phoebe (hopefully).
Tennant
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Tennant Stuart typed this -
I can't see that working - she's always been especially mean & manipulative towards him : TOW Heckles Dies (evolution), and TOW the Cat for example.
The one moment they had (TOW the Flashbacks) was several years before either of the above.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
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Oh yes, and Rachel is Princess Daisy???
Phoebe has been a far better friend to Ross than that bitch has.
Not so. First of all, that's only two examples, and 'always' is a strong word. Second of all, in the evolution debate she was testing him, not being especially mean & manipulative towards him. Ross is a big boy now, and ought to be able to stand up for himself in a debate, especially one on his profession. As for the cat incident, that was Rachel's fault, she put Pheebs up for it, one of *many* occasions where she has been cruel & bitchy, most often to Ross.
There are many other occasions where Phoebe has been nice to Ross, even if she hasn't gotten on her back for him.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
I don't like the idea of a Phoebe/Ross coupling. There's been too many already. They were sweet in TOW the flashback but, like they realised, they were just caught up in the moment.
My favorite couple is C&M but I like the idea of R&J.
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Holly typed this -
I assume that 'R' is for Rachel rather than Ross. :)
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as [email] typed this -
Would that be the locked green closet door in C&M's apartment? :)
Paul Hyett wrote in message news:...
"Behind the Green Door" was many things - but it won't ever be an episode of "Friends"
Joey and Ross? I can see it. Joey's been overcompensating for his homosexual tendencies. Ross has been fixated on a woman he can't have, and sabotages every realistic relationship he gets in.
And didn't Rachel say she'd rather date Phoebe than Monica?
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/ I thought Joey was Chandler's bitch?
SweetVenom Bob
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Perhaps but it was Ross and Joey sleeping together on the couch. Think Ross was snuggling up to Joey so maybe he's Joey's bitch. <shrug>
Buttons
In article , [email] (Holly) wrote:
Too many couplings?
I'm not arguing with that. :)
Tennant
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Ross pretty much got what was coming to him in that episode, but what Phoebe was doing was crystal clear. She tore him to shreds at a fundamental and personal level because he wouldn't allow her to enjoy her own world view, whatever its merits.
She wasn't testing him. She was humilitating and punishing him quite deliberately.
The difference between Rachel and Phoebe is that Phoebe forgets about it once vengence is hers. She doesn't cling to her anger for years and bring it out for sweeps stunts. While I don't always agree with her reasons, I've never felt she was just doing it to be spiteful or for fun; she genuinely trying to make him accept her, for things which may or may not be acceptable.
That does not mean I think she's the best choice for Ross. He's been presented with two practically ideal choices and he wasn't allowed to keep either one.
In article , "abrahammy" wrote:
Okay, so why didn't he stand up to her better? He was on home ground.
I agree with that, actually.
Well, Phoebe's made of sterner stuff (though I expected more from Mona).
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
He didn't want to get mean. He likes her. He wanted to convince her, not defeat her. And she's REALLY smart, smarter than he (or any of the others) realize.
In article , [email] (Richard) wrote:
Yeah. Mind you, the only one able to defeat her in a debate was Joey.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
"The fencing master does not fear the accomplished student. He only fears the rank beginner. The master knows what a skilled fencer is likely to do; he knows how to deflect the strike and turn his opponents move against him. But when a master faces a rank beginner, he cannot predict what the beginner will do. It is the difference between facing a windmill, and facing the wind."
In article , [email] (Oxynad) wrote:
Lol. Who said that?
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
Don't know. It's in a book of quotes, but it's anonymous.
TS, we're waiting for the ultimate list of reasons R&P belong together.
Reason #84 - the possibility, no matter how slim, of a night with both Phoebe and Ursula.
In article , [email] (Oxynad) wrote:
Oh.
I did a bit more at Friday teatime, honest.
Ooh!
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
I propose a clarification of reason #84...
The slim possibility of a night with beautiful blond identical twins, one a masseuse, the other a porn star.
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
How many have you got so far on you list? :)
Priya
In article , [email] (p r i y a) wrote:
Well actually it's more of a treatise, quality rather than quantity...
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
Ooh! When do we get to read it?
Priya
In article , [email] (p r i y a) wrote:
Good question. I must get around to finishing it.
Tennant
In article , [email] wrote:
What's that?
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote:
You don't know the jeopardy song?
In article , "Cookie Dude" wrote:
Nope.
Tennant
[email] wrote:
Not very nice to post email addresses on an NG like that. He's gonna get a few offers for penis enlargements and jobs where he can work from home and still make 1 Gazillion dollars in a week now... Although with Tennant, he probably has some nifty little self written program that filters all the junkmail out*?*
I'm from Germany, very Anti-US-American (liking Friends so much is sort of a moral dilemma for me ;) ) and still know Jeopardy and the song to it
I like Donald better though...
Andr�
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If you think that's funny then I feel sorry for you
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Well, "they" -- the US-American government, some companies and people -- have done a lot of things to dislike "them" for ever since. Cultural imperialism being one catchphrase. Also as I've been told, there hasn't been much anti-Americanism before 1945, our ancestors had Brits, Frenchs and Russians to hate and Jews and/or Communists to blame, both where "seen" whereever Evil was.
Sincerely it surprises me that the situation in Belarus is being recognized on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. Nevertheless, sentences like this one are useless and only make the author look arrogant. Have you ever heard a German say "If it wasn't for us you'd never been to the moon before the USSR."?
A bit studying of history would tell you that Truman himself wasn't forgiving at first neither. Plans were to wreck Germany, even more than the Versailles Treaty or the Soviets in eastern Germany did. His advisers including secretary Marshall made him change his POV to establish a solid bastion against Communism instead. You best destroy your enemy by making him your friend. Similiar thoughts on French side lead to the precursors of the European Union.
Christoph, completely off topic and AFAIK/R
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I still haven't watched the first DKudK. Just out of curiosity: Were they subtitled, translated or plain German?
Funny question. Comedies are indeed the most successful German movies, at least in their home country (and Austria and the German speaking part of Switzerland). You just wouldn't understand them in lack of cultural and language background. In contrast we're flooded with "knowledge" about the US, thus your movies and TV shows make sense to us -- well, most of the time. E.g.: if you wanted to watch the most successful German film of the past twenty years -- Der Schuh des Manitu [1] -- you wouldn't laugh much, although it's taking place in 19th century USA, the Wild West.
If the US hadn't been there, chances were good we could lead this conversation in German ... You can play the if-game infinitely, noone will ever win it.
Because the prejudices about US-Americans being narrow-minded, uneducated, egocentric and arrogant have been proven right too many times to expect the opposite.
Christoph
[1] Manitou's Shoe: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0248408
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Australian, Irish and British don't really count IMHO, as language in most comedies is the most important thing.
Maybe it's more specific than the others. Maybe other nations just don't get the German sense[s] of humour and thus think we don't have any. Maybe our film industry just has a too small output. There's animated comedy with the "Werner" series [1], which is best understood by Northern Germans, or more sarcastic "Das kleine Arschloch" [2]. A great comedy road movie is "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" [3]. We also have dumb ethno humour with Erkan & Stefan [4] or the gangster comedy "Bang Boom Bang" [5], teencom with "Harte Jungs" [6] and stoner's humour in Lammbock [7]. There's more, but that's what I remembered. I think the only one foreigners could understand is "Knockin' on Heaven's Door", but feel free to check any of them out if you get the chance.
There's that unwritten Hollywood law that you don't do comedies in WWII, and what else is Germany known for that you could communicate to John Doe? Well traditional Bavaria maybe.
At least it introduces the fact that there was homosexuality in the Wild West. ;-) I've been told there's an English version on the DVD spoken by the original actors more out of fun but nevertheless was shown to a native English audience, which simply didn't get it. Maybe they didn't know Karl May's "Winnetou & Old Shatterhand".
I haven't neither heard of not seen that film, but most major European countries have dealt or are still dealing with terrorism inside their boundaries. The USA are quite new to this, except for unsolved assassinations maybe, and overreacting from our PoV. Maybe that's the problem here.
Christoph
[1] <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0100912>, <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0118138> & <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0184005> [2] <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0119471> [3] <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0119472> [4] <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0216741>, <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0293124> [5] <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0135790> [6] <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0239450> [7] <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0258760>
Christoph P�per wrote:
Do you know "Schule"? It's sort of a teen comedy but a lot deeper than your average American pie clone imo.. You can certainly relate to it if you have been through the hassles of Oberstufe/Abitur ;-) (or at least so was the consensus between me and my friends)
Andr�
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I know that it exists, but haven't seen it yet, which may be the cause for not remembering it.
Christoph
[email] wrote in news:[email]:
Re: South America
Right, instead we had US-installed dictators who murdered and tortured and will never be brought to trial.
God bless America.
Anesly <devnullatdeadletter.org> wrote in news:[email]:
I should add: I do like many things about the US, which is why I live here and not in South America. HOWEVER, I find the argument that 'with out the USA the whole world would've gone to shit' faulty and it really pushes my buttons. There are idiots and ignorant people everywhere in the world; I got asked all kinds of idiotic questions when I first came here ('What country are you from? I see. And what part of Mexico is that in?' 'Do you have roads?' 'Do you live in caves?' 'Ah, so you speak in Mexican?'). I told people as a joke that we had Flintstone-style cars and TVs and they believed me. At the same time, because of other idiotic things in South America and more specifically Chile, I don't think I could stand to live there at all. This doesn't mean, of course, that everyone in the U. S. is like that; I know plenty of people who are concerned with world affairs and try to understand others' points of views and realize there is more than just black and white.
As long as the world is filled with people, there'll be idiots everywhere. =P
[Sat, 24 Aug 2002 18:03:13 GMT] [email] wrote:
I think the easiest way to explain would be to paraphrase Isabel Allende, since I don't have the exact quote. What would the US think if, say, France landed some troops on its land and removed Bush and stuck him in a cell back in France?
This is the issue with removing heads of state, legitimate or not; it's guaranteed to create at least some backlash. Much more so if the leader in question was legitimately elected and/or counts with the support of a large chunk of the population. To me, for example, the coup in Chile that ended with the removal of Salvador Allende is absolutely inexcusable, even without counting the years of human rights abuses that followed during the dictatorship; Allende was a democratically elected leader in a free and clean election, and no one had any right to remove him, no matter how much they disagreed with his views (he was a socialist which was of great concern to the US at that time). In cases of a dictator, it's not nearly as simple, because, if nothing else, how else are you supposed to get rid of a dictator? In general, they don't want to hold elections that might unseat them (though, after many years, Pinochet, the man who ruled over Chile after Allende, held first a referendum and then elections; but these were very hard to get).
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Bullshit. You may want to believe that only because of US-American kindness Germany has become what it is now, but that's so far from the truth that it I shouldn't even bother replying to you. True the USA played a big part in the beginning, but as Christoph already said the original US-American plans were rather different and all the Allied forces except for the Soviet Union were contributing to Germany getting back on its feet. But the "Wirtschaftswunder", of which you've surely never heard, was mostly accomplished by the German people itself and didn't have anything to do with the USA, except for that we started to export goods to there. From that point on, Germany developed into the nation it has become now. Originally I thought you weren't one of these stereotypical US-Americans, but it seems as if you've got your knowledge about WWII from all the "authentic" Hollywood productions about it (classics like "U-571" spring to mind, where US-American soldiers capture the Enigma encryption machine from a German submarine (IIRC even while they were underwater).... nevermind that it was the British army who actually captured the Enigma encryption machine and that it wasn't captured from a submarine, this film being praised as a good movie about WWII was a slap in the face of any European)...
Furthermore, if it weren't for your "glorious country", people could still lead a normal life in Nagasaki or Hiroshima, which isn't going to happen for a few thousand years and a lot of dictators in Central and South America would never have risen to power (because after all surely a dictator who mistreats the people in his country is far better than Communists). Didn't the governemt of the USA even help Saddam Hussein to become the ruler of Iraque?
I could go on for ages about all the fucked up things the USA have done to Europeans or the rest of the world, do you want me to? Your trade laws are ridiculous, their only purpose is to keep foreign companies and their products out of the USA; during the Cold War, there were more nuclear weapons in Germany than in any other country, so yeah, big thank you to the USA for making Germany *that* place (bear in mind, that although German scientists played major role in developing the nuclear bomb, we never built one)
And a small piece of advice at the end: don't ever try this kind of remarks in a real life conversation with a German or any European, things could get really ugly (if it weren't for us your living standards would be the same as the third world) - despite this seemingly being the popular belief in the USA, it's not only factually wrong, but also this sort of US-American ignorance/arrogance isn't welcome over here. It is my oppinion that the USA is more dependent on the European Union and the other countries on this side of the Atlantic than we are dependent on the USA, our politicians just need to realise this and act on it.
Andr�
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I believe there were more sectors in Germany than one US-American and a soviet one....
Then why don't you acknowledge it? I will readily admit that if it weren't for the ground work the Allies did Germany most likely would have gone nowhere, but from 1949 on we pretty much helped ourselves
No because I to refuse to watch movies whose sole purpose is to make US-Americans look like heroes and the rest of the world like complete morons. It can be done in a funny way, like in 'Hogan's Heroes' or it can be done like in the film 'Pearl Harbor', where little children can be seen playing in the fields when the Japanese attack (wasn't the attack on Pearl Harbor at something like 5 o'clock in the morning??) whereas when they show the revenge of the US army all they bomb is empty cities... really?
Apparently not. Want a list of all the stupid questions me and friends of mine who went on an exchange to the US for a year got? Examples: "why are you communist?" "do you have roads? (when the parents drive a big fuck off Mercedes Benz....)
It may just be my humble oppinion but I from what I gathered in my physics lessons a normal life is not going to be possible for quite some time to come
I said Germany WAS the country where the most nuclear weapons were DURING the Cold War. I know that a lot of them were in the GDR on the soviet side, but there were enough US-American atomic bombs in the country to make this country a place where you wouldn't want to live for a few thousand years.... Hence all the Anti-American demonstrations in the 1970ies and 1980ies) And again, there were probably enough nuclear warheads in Germany to flatten the whole continent and this country has never built a single atomic warhead
And now you're trying to get rid of the dictators and install a democratic government. Why not do that in the first place? Oh the dictators allowed you to sell Coca-Cola and BigMacs there? And you got cheap oil if the country had any to sell? Marvellous reasons....
eh, ok... I was honestly asking, I just remembered the USA and Saddam cooperating at one point.
That's probably the idea you get living in the USA, but anyway, here's my favourite example: It's allowed to treat cattle with all sorts of hormones, which aren't allowed in the European Union because they are considered dangerous for one's health, yet European countries cannot export meat to the USA, because "it's not clean enough and dangerous for the health of US citizens" or when the European Union signed a treaty with a number of former colony states that allowed them to export to Europe without having to pay any tolls (as a way of making up for the years of slavery and colonization), the USA went straight to the ITF because they were afraid that Chiquita bananas would sell less in Europe now and the treaty was declared invalid.
Airbus? lol... Maybe 10-15 years ago, but certainly not now. It's one of the most profitable European companies
Maybe so, but at one point Germany was the country with more atomic bombs than any other country
It may sound really surprising to you, but there are things between black and white
Ohhh, German soldiers shot people in a war. Big deal. The US Army would never do that I take it then?
That's your complex, I never claimed any of these things
Frankly, I don't care where people want to emigrate. Your not implying that live in the USA is better than in Europe are you? I'm not saying it's the other way around, I believe it's fairly equal only difference being you get all the Hollywood movies earlier than we do (unless you download them off the 'net) and have about 500 more TV channels than the whole of Europe combined
The most ridiculous argument I've ever seen. We speak English because we realise there are other countries on this globe, most Germans my age (21) will also speak a bit of French or Spanish, maybe Italian. We're taught this in school, but if a bunch of my friends can pass their High School exams and end up being best of the year despite having spent most of the year on alcohol and pot, then I'm not surprised most Americans never learnt to speak another language. As for me, please note that my spelling is BRITISH, it's colour not color for God's sake.
It's probably a new concept for you, but it's not all about warfare. The US have (and have had for ages) a massive trade deficit, because they import way more than they export. Now with the European Union and our rather good relations to China, Japan and most of the former colony states, we are not really dependent on the USA to brighten our lives with their goods, we only need you to sell some of our junk, but thanks to Bush that's becoming harder and harder. And also we need the USA to sign the bloody Kyoto treaty and stick to it, but since probably the most ignorant US-American happens to be the president that won't happen anytime soon.
Way to go, compare the inquisition and the "3. Reich" with modern lives. How about the indians? Did the colonists not take away all their land and centuries later they got their reservoires, probably the most useless pieces of land there are in the USA? Or the discrimination of blacks? My generation still gets berated for what happened in our country at a time where not even our parents were born, but nobody seems to care that Martin Luther King and Malcom X and their fight for equal rights for blacks was AFTER WWII - so much about the learning curve of US-Americans
How about Coca-Cola, McDonalds and oil? How many people had to die for this thanks to the USA trying to force of the world to live life the USA way? Also you forgot Christianity in your above list of ideologies
Yeah and good is everything the USA do and everything else is evil and must be destroyed or how am I to understand your ramblings?
If it makes you feel better, so be it. I've always said talking to patriots from the USA is worse than talking to a wall and now I've got even more evidence. We're not going to agree on any of this, so I'll just stick you into my Yankee Doodle Doctor category and you rank me as an arrogant European who has troubles accepting the supremacy of the USA or whatever. I leave the last word to you in all this, as I'm not going to bother with this thread anymore.
Andr�
"Cookie Dude" wrote in message news:ajvtsi$qfg$[email]...
Yup but they all kinda pitched together against the soviet one. Soz for butting in by the way, very interesting conversation to say the least, just let's not go to war over it all OK boys. There is a phrase I want to use that contains Bygones twice :o)
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you should check your irony detector....
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May be so more or less at least for the French, but it was less "giving" than "dividing" which included trading big parts of eastern Germany to the USSR for a part of Berlin.
Yeah, the problem is that -- for no apparent reason -- historical accuracy isn't much a Hollywood thing, which might help at US box offices but not its reputation abroad. Ask Scots about "Braveheart".
Ain't that the war movie completely without blood -- Disney style?
Sorry, but every German I know who went for more than a month to the US reported such stories. Some of them only had contact with biz people. Haven't heard that from different countries.
Not totally, the Japanese cities had luck that the a-bombs thrown at them were so small and primitive. There're places I'd rather live anyhow.
Everyone reads the lecture that proves himself right. Like it's said Winston Churchill said: "One can only trust a statistic if he has falsified it." Lomborg is a professor for statistics, not a scientist. I haven't yet read it myself, but from what I read about it (from both sides), his thesises seem a bit short sightened.
At least we had no Civil War inside the EU like the USA had.
Bureaucratism seems indeed to be a typical European feature, not always forcing problems though.
Boeing propanganda seems to work.
The opposite is true: "Today there's no black or white ... Only shades of gray." (Monkees - Shades of Gray)
You sure? I beg that's one of the reasons for sabotaging the International Crime Court.
That was not *our* country for Satan's sake.
That's to be proven, especially for the lower classes. How someone could measure this in a way to justify the word "twice" is beyond my mind.
Are you speaking about Germany or Europe, because there's a huge difference between e.g. Luxembourg and Norway.
The willingness to risk something or even everything is much higher in the States, yes. Something we're jealous about.
[Dubya]
That proves ... exactly nothing. Jelzin^WYeltsin was a hero once.
You have to start somewhere.
Plague or pox.
Yes, but it'd have been nothing without Rome and the Vatican.
It's like looking in a mirror, isn't it?
Christoph
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I hadn't been online quite a while, but maybe you care about another round:
I travelled Scotland at the time Braveheart came out on VHS. The Scots I met liked of course the glorification of *their* history, but neither Mel Gibson nor the flaws in historical correctness -- those who knew about them.
Sure.
I questioned the completeness. Even in WW2 there were prosecutions of German soldiers by German [military] courts in re violations against the Geneva Convention.
Where's the problem? If they're not guilty they won't be sentenced. Do the USA have so little trust in Iustitia?
Not yet in existence. The Federal Republic of Germany was founded on 1949-05-23.
^^^^^^
Isn't it more like "free *primary* medical care"?
The idea of having to pay for college/university education is plain silly, but sadly becoming more popular among our politicians.
That's a good thing? I think it's a good price, but for a litre not a gallon -- we're slightly above 1 �/l currently in Germany. I forget to mention that it's about time for the US to introduce the SI aka metric system.
Go back a little more in time -- don't you remember rebel tanks sieging the White House, the Russian one?
I don't. Lifeforms on planet Earth evolve with changing conditions (climate etc.), this includes extinction. As I don't know and nobody can predict how the current accelaration of such changes will affect flora and fauna, I prefer staying alive as am, although the succeeding Earth might be an even better place -- for someone. Plus, maybe I want to travel the Maledives when I'm retired, but they could be gone till then.
Coal and oil are energy and hydrocarbons taken from a prehistorical cycle whose reintroduction into the current one leads to unpredictable effects. The IMO logical consequence is: Don't touch the biogeochemical cycle more than necessary.
Meanwhile the US, OPEC* and some others clearly demonstrated in Johannesburg that they still don't understand. Or care. *Having written that acronym I'm close to start a rant on this IMO heavily illegal cartell, but yet can keep it under control.
It *might* be, but it also *might* increase desertification, flood whole countries, or -- worst for us Europeans -- change the Gulf Stream.
It's the attempt to reduce the *gain* of temperatures.
The reason is that that's too short-sighted IMHO. And also might not lead to the expected results: The more people you have the harder it is to satisfy their needs, e.g. vaccination might cause hunger, because there're more childhood survivors then usual.
Didn't start the Crusades, are European, were torn apart from Rome IIRC with the division of the Roman Empire in the 400s.
Christoph FollowUp-To poster
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yupp... *plonk*
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You cannot "set up" a _democratic_ government and the US didn't, although they replaced many mayors etc. by "denazified" ones, the Bundestag has always been elected in free ballots. The FRG's constitution -- still one of the best in the world IMHO -- was solely written by Germans.
You don't want to compare tests in your deserts with destroying whole cities, won't you? Btw: I think it's "What are the United States of America?" :-P
Luckily, they weren't, yet. Actually I think mankind is too smart or too self preservationary to extinct itself in a short time span.
It seems more like you figured that any foreign government is good as long as it helps you in something. You people *need* Fidel in Cuba, not to mention Columbia.
And he's not the only example of American godshilds that became enemy of the state.
Actually France doesn't, the EU does. Subsidisation just works differently over here than in the States.
You're messing up abbreviations here:
GDR - German Democratic Republic \_ socialist eastern Germany DDR - Deutsche Demokratische Rebublik / FRG - Federal Republic of Germany \_ democratic western Germany BRD - Bundesrepublik Deutschland /
I don't believe it would have had survived Hitler's death. Though we might not have been the democratic, free people we are now.
In real history, it took almost exactly 70 years to demonstrate that neither socialism nor communism works in practice, yet, as it has to use force and force can only be used if not everyone's equal.
Mankind is just not that simple.
European doesn't equal European; there're more differences in much less space than in the US.
I know people who lost (unarmed) folks on board of the Gustloff, in Dresden or in Vietnam. What's that gotta show? War sucks and people do things in war they wouldn't do otherwise. (Just to be safe: the Gustloff was shot by Russian not US submarines.)
It may surprise you, but there are a lot of immigrants in Germany, too. And we're neither a classic immigration country like the USA or Australia nor do we have the colonism background of France, the UK or the Netherlands, although many people from Russia, Kazakhstan etc. whose German ancestors had been settled there come back here.
Now imagine she was from the Middle East.
Yeah, that makes you come out nice. Do you start learning Spanish because Mexico is winning? ;-)
What does the one thing have to do with the other? Every nation has events in its history it shouldn't be proud of -- even the world community has, like Rwanda.
In the world as it's today, everyone needs everyone, well almost at least.
I thought it's only for murderers, otherwise you're farer back than I thought. Eye for an eye makes blind.
Whom are you targeting at? Can't be Germany. And if, Andr� already reminded you of the Indians -- or whatever you're said to call them nowadays.
So did and still does capitalism/imperialism (which were invented in Yurp, too), just more quiet. Besides, the numbers are too high even if you blame all WW2 victims on nazism.
That's just arrogant against your own people.
Not all the scum went to Australia, you too got a big amount.
What I dislike about the USA (prejudices included, incomplete): * The "right to bear arms" and its consequences, * the death penalty, * the judicature incl. the right to be stupid, * the two-party political system incl. lobbying, * much of the foreign politic, * the almost nationalism like patriotism, * the nearly unbound capitalism (SHV is god), * the unreflected waste of environment, * the cars, * the egocentrism, * the arrogance esp. concerning history, * the prudery, * televangelism and other religious extremes, * pop culture, * Country music, * American Football & Baseball incl. the lack of "Breitensport".
Christoph
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Excuse me, speak for yourself. There are plenty of people here in the US who disagree with the death penalty for a variety of reasons.
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You wish. The military administration agreed with whatever the Germans would work out *before* work on the Grundgesetz started.
That might have happened, though.
The nationalism and the uniformism.
But it's much easier, quicker and more effective. Still doesn't make the number of atomar explosions inside some country's borders any more significant, especially if all have been launched by the own army.
Tell me about it. :-( I know how hard it is to explain scientific facts to John Does.
Not to judge, but to act. In many cases it's just not foreign countries' business which government one people has.
That's why the USA intervened in Rwanda? Oh wait, they didn't.
And have no "enemy" nearby? That would be just too boring.
That's why you need them.
Never say never, but the US have a history in making bad decisions in this area.
"Evolve" is the word, which happens in leaps as well as constantly. Please don't believe this won't happen to the US constitution.
Everything between Ural, Black Sea, Mediterranean and the Atlantic, but that's not the point. It's just that you can't generalize that easy.
I'm ashamed that German soldiers took part in the crusade on Afghanistan, so what? The US army bombed refugee tracks in Iraq and former Yugoslavia, by accident /of course/.
They did worse.
Now you're getting childish.
You can't deny that violence is accepted to be part of normal life in the US more than in any other "modern" country.
We came to the conclusion, that eye for an eye leads nowhere and not even the state has the right to decide about an individual's life.
But we rely seldomly on unqualified juries and you don't have to pay millions for nothing. Divorce laws are slightly better, too, AFAIK.
There're currently 5 bigger nation wide parties. Lobbying is much more restricted, which has cost many politicians their position.
Shareholder value.
It's hard to find a European car that consumes more than 10l per 100km nowadays (dunno what that is in miles per gallon), but we have some with less than 3. But it's not only that, we're nearing 100l/d fresh water consumption (from above), do you know yours?
Right after Utah? There's strictly no beach in Germany where women weren't allowed to (sun-)bath topless, only few across Europe. Have you ever heard the words "shit", "fuck", "cunt" etc. on e.g. Friends [hey! on topic]? There's no problem with those and their translations in German TV, but for some reason music television sometimes only has the censored versions so you hear things like "Burn, mother<small pause>, burn!"
Yes, it's fun to watch them nevertheless.
That's one thing I hate about Germany, but it's declining.
Let's hope so.
As I understand it there's much like no sports US-Americans do after highschool except the mentioned ones, gym or Softball. We have a variety of sports clubs and leagues for all ages.
I was surprised lately when I heard that Berlin (or was it Hamburg?) marathon was the biggest (= most starters) in the world. Don't know if it's true, though.
Christoph FollowUp-To poster
In article , "Cookie Dude" wrote:
Yeah...
You filter out penis enlargement spam and get breast enlargement spam. :(
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote:
never got those... must be visiting the wrong sites... as of recently I'm getting fake bills, whatever that is all about
In article , "Cookie Dude" wrote:
The spammers know which sex an Andr� is.
Really? Never had one.
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Don't do it Tennant, they look fine just how they are. :)
Always Coca-Cola (Who's always on the lookout for breast reduction spam. :)
In article , "Coca-Cola" wrote:
Don't do it Jonathan, they look fine just how they are. :)
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in news:[email]:
I got spam from 'THE BOOB RANCH' yesterday. The idea of a herd of disembodied breasts running around in a ranch amuses me so I'm not in a hurry to delete it.
In article , Anesly <devnullatdeadletter.org> wrote:
Lol, how do they lasso them?
Tennant
In article , [email] wrote:
No worries.
Tennant
In article , Richard Riley wrote:
Ah. I'm writing...
Tennant
Oxynad wrote:
Tennant, doesn't it bother you to be abbreviated as "tomatoes & salad" (as in Hamburger Royal TS)?
In article , "Cookie Dude" wrote:
Not as much as when that young woman was found brutally murdered in the Australian Outback last year, and her boyfriend mysteriously disappeared, on the road from Tennant Town to Stuart's Creek (or something like that).
Tennant
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Tennant Stuart typed this -
Ah, but the big compensation is that Rachel has sex with him! :)
Ah, you thought of that, too!
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
That's how she controls him. There are other fish in the sea.
Well yes, although that *was* awfully nice of her...
Tennant
In article , [email] wrote:
Yes, fair enough Richard, that's a good point.
She's a graduate from Vassar.
Me2
Exactly.
Eep! I did about half of it before I went away, and I've been *meaning* to finish it off. Sorry about that, and thanks for the reminder.
Tennant
R&R FOREVER!!!!!!!!!
Paul Hyett wrote in message news:...
My favorite couple is C&M as well. I just think they have wonderful chemistry together, and the fact that Monica always tries so hard and takes everything soooo seriously, combined with the fact that Chandler almost never takes anything seriously, balances out quite nicely.
I care very much about Ross and Rachel as individuals, but I am oddly indifferent to R&R as a couple - always have been. The good thing about that is that I have been able to watch their story without getting emotionally involved in all the peaks and valleys. Though sometimes I have gotten irritated with the way the writers have manipulated the audience: whiplashing back and forth between implying that R&R are meant for each other and are going to get back together, only to pull them apart again. I guess I'd like to see R&R end up together if only because I know there are an awful lot of long-suffering R&R fans out there who have been waiting years and years to see this happen, and I can empathize with that feeling. Not to mention the fact that R&R have a child together. I'm old-fashioned enough that I think that matters.
On the other hand, I could get on board with Rachel/Joey and Ross/Phoebe if it's done well. And I do see a spark of chemistry between Ross and Phoebe. My main thing is that I don't want any of the characters to to be deeply hurt or unhappy at the end of the show. But BKC have already said that wouldn't happen.
To say a few words about some other points I have read in this thread - first, I agree completely that Rachel has been far, far more cruel to Ross than Phoebe ever has. I could cite episode after episode after episode where Rachel insults Ross, often in quite demeaning ways, and I am hard pressed to think of many episodes where she compliments him. And the fact that she has slept with Ross IN NO WAY compensates for the way she has treated him. If anything, it makes it worse - precisely because she has had such an intimate relationship with him. And the reason why I still don't think it's completely hopeless for R&R is that Rachel has another year to grow up, and since she is now a mother, I think she will grow up very much over the next season.
I do think that Phoebe has a bit of a cruel streak, not just with Ross but with everybody. She can cut somebody down to nothing faster than loggers in a Brazilian rainforest. The reason it doesn't bother me much is that A) it's pretty infrequent, B) it does blow over quickly and then she goes back to being nice and sweet, and C) Lisa is just so damn funny in those scenes.
Some of my other favorite couples: Chandler and Joey (no, not _that_ way), the chick and the duck (I think they're just gone now), the Gellers, Frank and Alice, Janice and anybody, Trieger and Joey, and Joanna and Sophie :)