All americans are fat!

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That's the same as me saying all guys named Jon are ignorant based on what you said. That would be wrong of me, because I haven't every person name Jon, as I'm sure you haven't met every American. I'd really love to see the statistics that you decided to base your statement upon.

====== "Life is never without love" -Sheryl Crow

Actually, as a nation, the United States *does* have a proportionally higher number of overweight people. My theory? We walk less; places are more spread out than they are in Europe. During the three months I lived in England, I could walk to the grocer without batting an eye. Here, it would be dangerous and very long and I won't do it. It isn't just laziness. It's actually more difficult to do. I have to get my daily exercise on a treadmill, which is a little sad, I guess.

EsotericGrrrl wrote in message news:[email]...

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You "haven't every person name Jon"....?.....ok, no amusing comment about grammer here. I was only messing about like I said in my second post. And dont you think that this is the reaction I wanted. Also, I have met every single American, and they were all, dumb, fat, and.... dumb......

If you respond to this it will prove a point!

Chill baby Jon.

P.S Fisrtly there is no such place as America! North America a continent, and South America. Secondly (getting back to the alt.tv.friends theme) U.S television programs are a lot better then anything the UK tries to make. ER, Friends etc are so so so much better than anything the UK could try and make. Have you seen the U.K's version of ER? Its called Casualty and is the worst acted most contrived program ever... complete shit. Blah... cant be bothered to right anymore....

Jon

Let's see......let's see..........I could kill myself for posting a reply to your post, but I have to stick up for myself, those that are offended to your post on this board, my country, my fellow citizens that inhabit it, and the world.......if that's not pushing it.

PREJUDICE..........this is a strong word to use, but I must use it.... The existence of prejudice is only good because it enables people to see the wrongs and make rights. If prejudice didn't exist, people wouldn't go to such extremes to fix it, thereby making good in the world.

In my Social Inequalities and Schooling class I learned a lot about prejudice and how not to practice it. I admit I was prejudiced then to some extent, although I was very unaware of it. It wasn't until I learned more about it, and how to not practice it, that I realized just how prejudice of a person I was.

We all have our rights to voice our opinions. Since you decided to take this right, I think it's my turn to take my right.

I am very unhappy with what you've said:

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Whenever the word ALL is used, it is an overgeneralization. I am an American, but one from the United States. I weigh 83 pounds and am 5 feet 3/4 of an inch tall........this is considered UNDERWEIGHT. Now, if your statement is true, I would also have to be FAT. Since I am not fat, your statement is not valid.

Dumb? Do you call all of us dumb? I am in college, and although this doesn't mean I'm smart (you can be dumb and be in college, I've seen it), it doesn't mean I'm dumb. I can spell, I am bilingual, I am culturally aware, and my GPA is high. I am not racist, I volunteer (and was the secretary of the Key Club, a volunteer organization in highschool), I am truthful, I love coffee, I have friends from all over the world, etc.....I could go on! All of my friends are very intelligent, some too much in my opinion. So, the dumb point is also not a valid statement.

So, because I respond to this point, that means I am dumb and fat? Dearie, dearie......I see we have a lot of growing up to do. Spending all of this time on "hate" and "prejudice" is not good for you nor the world. I have learned this very well from one little class I had to take not even a year ago. Maybe it would be wise for every person in the world to take that class! Your energy is better spent on things that do good. Smile at a stranger, laugh at a joke, volunteer somewhere, do something! (Hey, that's an American volunteer club!) Leave your mark on the world and make it good.......

I do not hold anything against you, as I am not being prejudice. You have a chance to become anti-prejudice until the last breath you take. I hope you will, for your own good. Hate is a very powerful tool. I read a poem on it.......I'll have to give you the name of the author. You might want to read it. And, no, the author is not American.

However, your "points" hold some truth. It's true that a lot of Americans are fat! I know quite a few. Reasons: busy lives (so we eat fast food), US is huge, so we drive everywhere (my highschool was 8 miles away from me, my college is at least 12), some parents don't care, thyroid disease.....I could add more........

SOME Americans are dumb........ none I know, but I could debate this back in highschool when some kids took forever to read. I'd always dread this, read ahead, and get called on. The teacher never thought I paid attention because I didn't know where we were.

Anyways, your ideas are true, not your statements. Oh, and everyone makes typos sometimes, give them a break! Just relax and enjoy life, you'll love others and they'll love you.

Signing out, hope I didn't offend anyone!

God bless you!

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In article , [email] wrote:

You are indeed Safier. Converting your mass to 37.6 kg and your height to 1.54 m, your Body Mass Index (mass/height�) is 15.9

15-20 is underweight, 20-25 is normal, 25-30 is overweight.

Anyone under 15 or over 30 should see their doctor.

Tennant Stuart (BMI = 25.9)

I heard Tennant Stuart's cries on the wind...

Hm. Last time I checked mine, I'd gone from 24.x to 22.x. Based on what I assume to be my current height and weight I'm probably around the 21 mark now, and stable there, which is just fine and dandy as far as I'm concerned. I have a friend who's low down in the 15-20 range, and one who scores an impressive 32 - and who has two friends shorter and heavier than he is.

In article , Raven wrote:

Have BMI32 & friends contacted a doctor?

Tennant

I heard Tennant Stuart's cries on the wind...

Nope. I tried, but nope.

hey what about me? i'm 5'3 3/4" and I weigh 108 lbs. So what am I considered? hehe this is totally off the subject of friends! lol! ~Sara~ "Hey, look at me! I'm Chandler. Could I BE wearing more clothes?" "They don't know that we know they know we know." "Actually, it's Ms. Chinandlor Bong." "My Bing-a-ling!"

In article , [email] (Sara) wrote:

You are underweight, but not in great danger as long as you don't lose another 20 lbs. Try to gain at least 10 lbs.

Not really. How much do you reckon CCA & MP weigh?

If less than 90 lbs she's in trouble, but over 120 lbs she's fine.

If more than 221 lbs he's in trouble, but under 185 lbs he's fine.

Tennant

thanx...i was never good in math!

CCA prob wieghs like 110 and MP probably 200...but he's tall...6'1" am I right? ~Sara~ "Hey, look at me! I'm Chandler. Could I BE wearing more clothes?" "They don't know that we know they know we know." "Actually, it's Ms. Chinandlor Bong." "My Bing-a-ling!"

In article , [email] (Sara) wrote:

CCA is 5'5" and MP is 6'0", the poundages were based on their heights.

Does everyone else agree with this estimate of their weights? (I'm quite hopeless at doing this).

Tennant

Tennant Stuart wrote:

Well I usually don't even try to estimate the weight of females because it just gets me in trouble so I have no clue about CCA, but I don't think MP is 200 lbs. Possibly 190 lbs, but my best guess would be about 185 lbs.

Jay(whose ex-girlfriend once asked what I thought her weight was, so I took the safe route and underestimated, but still got yelled at. I guess it's best that relationship didn't last.)

In article , "J. Robinson" wrote:

In that case MP is in the danger zone, but if he loses a few pound then he'll merely be overweight. Just looking at the guy though, I wouldn't have thought that he was so far gone.

Oooh, Jay - was this before you saw 303 "TOW the Jam" ?

CHANDLER: Do I look fat?

ROSS and RACHEL: Noo.

CHANDLER: Okay, I accept that. When Janice asked me and I said no, she took that to mean that I was calling her a cow.

RACHEL: Okay, walk us through it, honey, walk us through it.

CHANDLER: Janice said 'Hi, do I look fat today?' And I looked at her -

ROSS: Whoa, whoa, whoa. You looked at her? You never look. You just
      answer, it's just a reflex. Do I look fat? Nooo! Is she prettier
      than I am? Noo! Does size matter?

RACHEL: Nooo!

ROSS: And it works both ways.

CHANDLER: Okay, so you both just know this stuff?

RACHEL: Well you know, after about thirty or forty fights, you kinda catch on.

Tennant

Tennant Stuart wrote:

This was just before TOW the Jam, but I wasn't able to watch the show as regularly back then. For me, I caught on after thirty or forty fights that the relationship was doomed from the start and not worth the effort.

Jay

and I'm average.

~Act (who is also an american)

I heard [email]'s cries on the wind...

<gigantic snip>

Hmm... I think you missed out on the sarcasm...

In the previous post, the mostly harmless Raven claimed:

Now *there*'s a truth: There are a LOT of people who wouldn't know sarcasm from real honest writing if you'd write it down in huge letters and hold it in front of them! And, judging from what I have seen from the UK / US (on tv, books, internet, chat, etc), I think UK people are a lot more into sarcasm than US people. The fact that people don't understand this sarcasm and take it seriously, is often of great bewilderment to those who do, because they feel like they're so much smarter with this `gift'. Myself, I can be quite sarcastic, but I try not to be because it's (too) often misinterpreted as something I really mean.

Bram

Hellooooo!!! After getting drunk in Vegas, Bram doodled cat whiskers on his/her face and miaowed this little lot at a statue...

I once heard something which so far has proved true in my experience: the only people in the US who are likely to get the sarcasm side of UK humour are those who live in NYC and possibly LA, or those who've had an extended stay in the UK at some point; everyone else seems to think we're being offensive, which is why I tend to stick multiple smileys into my posts just to be on the safe side. [1] And damn it, that's something I'm going to have to remember when I'm writing that movie of mine... grrrrr.

Tina (who's likely to still be writing it this time next year at the rate she's going...)

[1] I don't like offending people, and if I do I tend to apologise for three weeks afterwards. :)

In article , Tina wrote:

Multiple smileys will be most useful in a movie script.

Tennant, (who lives in the UK)

Maybe the US peeps are sarcastic about different things than the Uk peeps. That could be why too.

~Act

In the previous post, the mostly harmless Activia claimed:

Yeah. That must be it. How could we not see that, while it was right in front of us?

..okay, how would you interpret that? Would you think I fully agree with your statement and feel silly for not having noticed it before? Or would you consider it sarcasm? There are no smilies, but from the words you *could* make up that it is sarcasm. At least, I can imagine I'd post something like that and expect readers to understand it's sarcasm. (which it is in this case, albeit I don't mean it, it's just an example to presumably show that sarcasm doesn't need smilies and face-to-face conversation to be understood as sarcasm)

Bram.

yea I did think it was sarcasm. I was debating it and was hoping I could tell for sure from the rest of your post.

~Act

In the previous post, the mostly harmless Activia claimed:

Good, because I would not say such a thing! We're better off getting along after all.

Bram

Yea I agree. I really hate to have enemies.

~Act

You are right some you can get by the way its worded but some you can't.

Like yea you know, I love school sooooooo much, all the nice projects they give us, and hours of homework that we get to put in. Plus they give us all those tests to see how good we are. Isn't that nice of them?

but if someone says

oh, I love school.

Would you have any idea without knowing the person?

~Act

In the previous post, the mostly harmless Activia claimed:

No, but one shouldn't expect people to interpret that as sarcasm without a context. Perhaps it would work if the person saying that is well-known, but even then the newcomers wouldn't understand. And since the UK people expect everyone else to be sarcastic, as they all are in England, they assume that even such simple messages are interpreted as such ;-)

Bram (who's glad there's an ocean between here and that island ;)

lol

so if somoene gave you a compliment or.. said

That was hilarious!

they would think that was sarcastic?

it depends doesnt it?

~Act

In the previous post, the mostly harmless Activia claimed:

Sure it does, I'm not saying one should assume other people understand, rather the contrary. I was trying to explain some people *do* assume others understand their sarcasm even without much context (and that's bad, very bad..bad people!), but that you can be sarcastic and have everyone and his dog understand it. I hope I belong to the latter.

Bram

I heard Bram's cries on the wind...

I agree completely. These days I try not to use smileys in my email and posting, because I think they're drastically over-used, but when I'm being sarcastic I do generally put one in. Some of the time people still don't recognise it, but it's much easier to defend a misconstrued post if there's a smiley in there. (Of course, the flip side of the coin is people who write genuine insults but then put smileys after them, like that makes it all right.)

In the previous post, the mostly harmless Raven claimed:

I do overuse them. When I don't know if I should put one in, I put one in ;-)

*chuckle*

I agree, that's a cheap getaway. Usually it's obvious enough though, and someone's bound to jump in and prick through the soap bubble.

Bram

Bram wrote in message news:[email]...

Well said! Im not being sarcastic either!

Jon

I'm not sure about that. Lots of people I know, especially people my age are extremely sarcastic. But its hard to tell on the net sometimes because its all in the way you say it. Thats why people now put -sarcastic.

~Act

Raven wrote in message news:[email]...

Hey!!!! Someone talking sense rather than quoating their body mass!!!

Cheers, Jon.

Huh?

wrote in message news:8eg4kc$2dq$[email]...

I heard Jon Phillipo's cries on the wind...

Well, that's a constructive opinion to add to this already gripping debate. Perhaps you'd like to share some other pearls of wisdom with the rest of us?

Raven wrote in message news:[email]...

In a moment of madness I decided to right something stupid. Im sorry for my comment.

Jon.

I heard Jon Phillipo's cries on the wind...

If you really mean that then I'm highly impressed. <Raven nods appreciatively>

Raven wrote in message news:[email]...

my

I do really mean it.

Jon.

I heard Jon Phillipo's cries on the wind...

Then thanks. Not many people do.

you have obviously never met me... 5ft. 9in. 36-24-34. 7% body fat, very much below the average. And I know this sounds like I live in a very closed world, but I dont know any fat people, and I live in america...

Laurie

Can anyone tell me what any of this has to do with the TV show "Friends"...............

I heard Laurie's cries on the wind...

Just to provide a (presumably controversial) counterpoint, all of the Americans I know personally are at least on the heavy side. I don't know the precise medical definition of "fat" (since it's probably been revised for the nine thousandth time since I last could be bothered to check), but it wouldn't surprise me.

On the other hand, I don't know that many Americans face to face, so it isn't a particularly representative sample.

The only way to answer questions like this, of course, is to get hold of lovely medical statistics, and you could come up with a "true" answer based on whatever trend has taken hold of medical science at the moment.

Alternatively, we *could* all recognise jokes and mistakes for what they are, and ignore racist comments, proving what nondiscriminatory people we all are really, rather than using nasty posts as springboards for rants.

(And, yes, I'm *well* aware that I'm not above what I've just described. Call me a hypocrite if you must, but at least listen to what I'm saying.)

But not as fat as you, FATSO!!!!

HA!!!

I heard Thomas Bell's cries on the wind...

Well, well. Does anyone else have anything constructive to add?

Thomas Bell wrote in message news:8eht30$oio$[email]...

I dont have any body fat! I am all bones.

Jon Phillipo wrote in message news:8efht1$mn8$[email]...

Why oh why do people try to stick up for themselves whilst being insulted. I think that this statement is a very good one, along with the fact that Americans are a little bit on the simple and pointless side. Of course I am generalising, but the initial statement I think should be amended to -

'All Americans are sticks or bricks'

Any comments?

D

I think you're being extremely hypocritical for calling Ams fat cuz there is so many discussions on how Courtney and Jennifer are tooo skiny! Excuse me, but I believe they are Anericans! So which one is it? Are we tooo skinny or fat? ~Sara~ "Hey, look at me! I'm Chandler. Could I BE wearing more clothes?" "They don't know that we know they know we know." "Actually, it's Ms. Chinandlor Bong." "My Bing-a-ling!"

I heard Sara's cries on the wind...

Let it go, Sara...

sorry, but other people were talking back....why can't I? :) ~Sara~ "Hey, look at me! I'm Chandler. Could I BE wearing more clothes?" "They don't know that we know they know we know." "Actually, it's Ms. Chinandlor Bong." "My Bing-a-ling!"

I heard David Barker's cries on the wind...

I'm sorry, what?

that statement doesnt even deserve a reply...

David Barker wrote:

Nice of you to point that out on the *INTERNET*, an American invention. Please try to take you mindless drivel elsewhere.

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So you'll not be using the Web at any point, then, since that's a British invention*? I thought you were talking a lot of sense until this point, Randy.

*Tim Berners-Lee, if anyone wants to get picky.

Jac

I believe he was just pointing out that Americans obviously aren't "simple and pointless" if we invented the internet, something he obviously gets a lot of use out of. I didn't see any reference to Randy thinking that David shouldnt use the internet, just that his statement was so obviously false.

-Kat

Monica:"Fine! Judge all you want to but (to Ross) married a lesbian, (to Rachel) left a man at the altar, (to Phoebe) fell in love with a gay ice dancer, (to Joey) threw a girl's wooden leg into the fire, (to Chandler) live in a box."

this is unfair.. the western world altogether has a larger percentage of overweight people.. but who cares.. people can be whatever size they want.. it's their health and life !!!

who cares about nationality ??

I know a lot of americans personally.. and I really like most of them...... ok.. some of their accents are a little squeaky and annoying.. but who cares ?? generalisations are a really bad habit... I also the generalisation of us Brits speaking like "Emily"....(her voice really bugged me) drinking tea and scones all day.. and living in country houses....with butlers.

If a 100 monkeys each could get their own show (alt.tv.friends), perhaps one day (Mon, 1 May 2000 21:59:06 +0100) a chimp ("Helena" ) might say:

"Hey! get off my country estate! James, get the Rolls Royce ready, I fancy a trip to the tea rooms for some scones and jam, hurrah for us Brits!"

or not, as the case may be :)

The funniest thing is, when I went to the US, I was in.. Disneyland I think, and one of the people in the shop asked us "so, like, are you from Australia?" well, i found it funny. i think as we (southerers) dont have a pronounced accent it's harder to place us.. maybe.

sesameslang - ME LIKE HOCKEY!

sesame.. you are a southerner too ?? (Brit south ??) me too.. just south of London I am sort of BBC-homecounty but not posh accent-wise but nothing special actually with so much american TV everyone says I sound Australian.... actually.. I was asked with part of the states I came from by a stranger.. *lol*

If a 100 monkeys each could get their own show (alt.tv.friends), perhaps one day (Wed, 3 May 2000 21:08:47 +0100) a chimp ("Helena" ) might say:

yep yep. ("howdy!")

where are ya? I'm about 30 miles south of London near the West Sussex/East Sussex/Kent/Surrey borders

I'm just.. me :) I dont think I have an accent.

LOL :) My friend has a odd accent (sounds more American than anything else) her dad is English born (but now he's married to an American and lives in Florida) and her mom is from South Africa.. my friend has lived in Florida, Los Angeles, and France and has this amalgamation of different accents.. it's cool :)

sesameslang - ME LIKE HOCKEY!

Jacqui wrote:

Well, sure. I'll get picky. . .

The Web is but one part of the Internet, but even so, I hate to disagree, but the concept of a linked information retrieval system (which is what the Web is) is widely accepted to be initially conceived by Vannevar Bush in 1945 who proposed a hypertext retrieval system called the "memex" (complete with images and documents) in his article titled "As We May Think", which appeared in the July 1945 edition of the Atlantic Monthly.

well yes, as much as all british men are gay. please.