It seems that this group is jam packed full of Yanks and Brits but I'm interested to know which nation posts here the most. I mean the UK as news:uk.media.tv.friends but nothing interesting ever happens there.
So come on ppl, say whether you're a BRIT or a YANK. Not wanting to offend anyone else from other countries so feel free if you want to post your country!
I'll start off:
BRIT
LETS BE P.C. ABOUT IT = WELSH
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:13:11 -0000, "Owen Shiers" wrote:
er.. Viking? (Norwegian.. :) )
Marita wrote in message ...
Hold on.......Ariel??
Ariel has the same sign-off. The exact same sign-off! Explain, please.....
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 02:20:10 +0100, "Zoepetier" wrote:
Yep!
Hey, Marcel!
I guess you left too early to see that I changed my nick-name. :)
Yep, it's the old Ariel, but Marita is my *real* name, and since another Ariel arrived, I chose to use my real name instead. :)
O...hey, sorry if you wanted to keep your nick-name Marita! But Ariel is my real name. :) Ariel
On 03 Nov 2000 23:04:18 GMT, [email] (Leira246) wrote:
No problem. The name caused some confusion, so it was probably for the best anyway. :)
Leira246 wrote in message ...
I would have thought that the odds that two Ariels would wind up in the same ng would be smaller. It just goes to show that no-one should ever bet on those kinds of odds. :-)
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Marita wrote in message ...
Hey Ariel! I mean Hey Marita! :-)
I guess so.
That makes sense. At least now I can tell you apart. For a minute there I thought I was going nuts. Phew! :-)
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< LETS BE P.C. ABOUT IT = WELSH>
Hey! a fellow welsh lady here also!
I don't really care for the term Yank..but I'm an American.
====== es*o*ter*ic b : of or relating to knowledge that is restricted to a small group
2 a : limited to a small circle
BTW, I don't mean to offend anyone with the term BRIT or YANK!
Continue to post...
The Fax Machine wrote in message ...
In article , "The Fax Machine" wrote:
I don't find the word Yank offensive, personally. And it doesn't bug me if people from other countries use the word, if it's convenient. I just don't know how many Americans actually refer to themselves as such.
Ida
American
TURK!!! but I live in England so: BRIT!!!
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
You're kidding! I thought you were Italian-American! I'm Dutch and we have a lot of Turks in Holland, but none of them are called Toni, not to mention have a surname like Perry.
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Italian American? okay, but my names not actually Toni Perry, I mentioned in another post that it was only my nickname. Toni's my nickname. and Perry, well, cause I wanna marry Matthew Perry! Did I really sound Italian American? cool!
Toni Perry If only wrote in message
Ahaaaa....THAT Toni! I can't believe I didn't see the difference in spelling. :-) Sooo....Matthew huh? I wonder what he's like in person. Actually the name Toni (ofcourse I read Tony) Perry sounds like a pretty common name for an Italian-American male from Brooklyn. Both names were actually used in the 80's movie "The Wanderers", that's why I thought that.
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hehe
I've read what he said on several stuff, and he seems kinda cool
that's for boys isn't it?
Perry sounds like a pretty
never herad of it, but cool!
Most comedy actors/actrices are just as funny and open on stage as they are off stage. But somehow I had my doubts about MP, because I never saw him in any kind of interview or even on Letterman. That's the place for him to really let go. But that's just my opinion.
Yes it is....as Bobby is for boys and Bobbi is for girls. That's how I got confused.
Really?? I thought everyone had seen that one. It was about the late 50's/early 60's and the kind of stuff teens did. Sockhops, rumbles, singing....that kind of thing. And it took place in Brooklyn,NY.
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pretty common
What about Toni Braxton? :)
Cihan.
[email] wrote in message ...
Solid point, Cihan. I think, in most cases, Toni is short for Antonia.
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I'm Turkish too, (born and) living in Belgium.
Cihan.
PS: Is Toni your real name?
Merhaba Cihan! Nasilsen bu aksam? And that would be my extent on the turkish language... oh, but I do know how to say this: Benim ismin Seran dir
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Did you answer Cihan's question?
Tennant
well y'know I tried... but I don't know much turkish. the question was if Toni's my real name yeah? well I told Cihan what my real name is, and also asked how Cihan was today
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
So your real name is Seran Merhaba?
Tennant
actually Merhaba means hello... :) but Seran is my real name yes
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Merhaba Seran... :)
Tennant
Merhaba Tennant! eyiyinsen? ben eyiyim.
(how are you? I'm okay)...:)
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Tesekk�r edirim Seran, ben eyiyim.
Tennant
surpriz oldum ki Turkce bilirsiniz
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
I think right now everyone is suprised that he pulled that off. :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
I was much like a swan calmly gliding across the surface, while under the water little legs were furiously paddling away... :)
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Eh? Is that your own version of "The Empty Vase"? :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
I should hope not, since that covertly insulted the person it was written for. It was more like my own version of Rachel wanting to be a hat...
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Oooooh....good comeback there. But after reading it again I noticed that it makes sense. It's actually very cool. Is it a quote, or selfwriiten?
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yeah but I still don't get it!
It makes sense?
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
He was calm to the outside (to us), but he was nervous as hell on the inside when he wrote Turkish to you. He wanted to to his best and not look like an idiot.
Yes it does. Do you see it now?
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ohhhh!!!! awwwwww!!!
yes I do. thank you for explaining it to me :)
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
Foot cramps? :-)
No problemo.....
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no no, ohhhhh!!!! to say oh that's what he was saying, and awwwww!!!!! to say, aw that's sweet
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
Oooooooh!! :-)
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see? everything makes sense... in the end...
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
It's a metaphor, Daddy!!
Tennant
In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
The Empty Vase was probably written by the author of the episode, since we know that Phoebe's songs always are. (In this case Doty Abrams).
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Not that! The thing with the swan.....I don't recognize it.
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Oh, you mean the swan calmly gliding across the surface, while under the water little legs were furiously paddling away?
I made that up, although it's not startlingly original.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
...........THERE it is! :-)
I like it. I don't think swans paddle that fast, but it's the thought that counts.
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definately surprised me!
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
He either did a lot of reading or he came across a helpful Turk.
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Neither. Algebra.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
In that case: way to go!!
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Grin.
Tennant
Btw, thought it was worth mentioning. I get Turkish TV channels via sattelite and yes, they do have Friends over there too. Dubbed in Turkish = twice as funny :)
Cihan.
which channels do you get, I might be able to catch it at my babaanne's!
and yes, they do have Friends over there too. Dubbed in
HEHE!!!!
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Thanks you guys, but it was more like algebra to me. :)
Tennant
what's that then?
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ... Tennant Stuart wrote:
Study of languages. But in this case he looked for it, because Turkish is one of those languages you don't learn in school. I don't know if he got all the words right, but it looked Turkish to me. He did that with Dutch once, too.
definately turkish, good words, understood, feeling like a judge...
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
I guess in that case he deserves our applause!
<clap> <clap> <clap>
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Joining in <clap> <clap> <clap>
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
I'd take a bow if I thought I deserved so much praise... :)
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Hey! Don't put yourself down like that. We'll do that for you if we think do need it. :-) That's Turkish-thing isn't easy for a non-Turk.
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Thanks. :)
Tennant
It's not even that easy for a Turk! So well done Tennant! and don't put yourself down!
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
Are you kidding? Why wouldn't Turkish be easy for a Turk? Cihan! Could you get in on this, please?
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Italian isn't easy for Joey Tribbiani.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Ehm Tennant? You do know that Joey Tribbiani is just a tv-character, don't you? :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Actually, Marcel, Joey Tribbiani is *two* TV characters... ;)
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Oh let me guess....Joey Tribbiani the actor and Joey Tribbiani the dufus? Or maybe Joey Tribbiani Sr and Joey Tribbiani Jr? :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
No.
Yes.
There have been two Joeys, Monicas, Phoebes & Chandlers on the show.
But only one Ross & Rachel.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Actually....there were three Chandlers, remember? It was a very long thread not too long ago.
I can't argue with ya there. I'd like to, but I can't. :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
I do remember, it was my thread!
But this time I'm not counting fish-shaped crackers. :)
Grin.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
LOL!!
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:37:22 GMT, Tennant Stuart wrote:
But there have been a Russ and a Raquel.
In article , [email] (CleV) wrote:
Lol - but U isn't O, and Raquel was just Rachel's nickname.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Nahaaaaa!
Raquel wasn't her nickname, my friend......Paulo couldn't pronounce Rachel. He pronounced it "Rrrraquel" as in "I do Rrrraquel" and "Rrrraquel say...eeeh eeeh....you massagge." Do you remember it now? :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Yehaaaaa!
Oh yes it was, my friend.
I'm talking about Rachel's nickname, not anything to do with Paolo. By the end of the day, her nickname had become Rocky.
Always did :)
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
:-))
Rocky?? Either I missed that episode or it was cut, because it doesn't ring any bells.
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:48:21 +0100, "Zoepetier" wrote:
Episode 602 TOW Ross Hugs Rachel. Rachel is annoyed when she comes home from work and tells the story to Monica and Chandler.
In article , [email] (Marita) wrote:
Takk, Marita. :)
Tennant
Marita wrote in message ...
Yep....I think I missed that one. I missed a lot of the season 6 eps so far. But thanks for clearing that up, Marita.
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okay, lets see Joey Jr, Joey Sr Phoebe Jr, Phoebe Sr Monica Geller and the fake monica Chandler... help me out on this one
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Chandler Buffay.
Tennant
I have the shortest memory EVER!!!! thank you Tennant
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Grin. You're very welcome, Toni. :)
Tennant
Cause I'm turkish and I know barely anything!!! and yeah! Cihan! where you at?
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
Well yeah, but when I grew up in Canada, I didn't know any Dutch. You live in England and you probably speak English all the time. Now if you lived in Turkey, or here in Holland, I'm pretty sure you could be speaking Turkish very fluently. But at least you know some of the basic words.
I know a few words from the movie "Midnight Express", but I can't spell them.
Hiding from us? Busy?
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yeah I'm proud of that! :)
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
You should be, as I'm proud that I'm fluent in two languages. And I can get various accents down pretty good, so learning new languages has never been a problem for me.
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cool!!!
really? It's always hell for me! hehe
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
Yeah, well....it has its downsides as well. Especially at work. I have to help all the foreign costumers and most of them are African and barely know enough Dutch or English to help me understand what they want.
I don't know what it is. I can't explain it. I'm the only one in my family that can do the accents. Then again I'm the only one in my family that can do impressions. Maybe that's it? Have you ever seen "Goodness Gracious Me!" and "It Ain't Half Hot, Mum."? I love doing those Indian accents. :-))
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Or Rachel in 604 "TOW Joey Loses His Insurance".
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
That was a very good one. I never expected that she could do it.
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Nor I - but then in a way, Rachel didn't do it, Jennifer did.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Yeah yeah yeah....she still doesn't strike me as the kind of person that can do impressions.
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
That's the whole point - Rachel is a spoilt rich girl now trying to make her own way in the world, while Jennifer is a talented actress.
Tennant
I was a bit suprised to hear her nail the Irish on the phone, talented or not
"Toni Perry If only" wrote in message news:[email]...
not
Have you seen the movie "Dream For An Insomniac"? Jennifer does some really good accents in it.
I haven't actualy, but I heard of it, it's on sky a lot though, I'll find it one day and watch it! :)
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
You're entitled to be surprised Toni, but that's what talent is all about.
Tennant
I guess :)
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
Tennant Stuart wrote:
Some of these acting people show surprising new talents from time to time. I just never thought Jennifer would be one of them.
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I LOVE goodness Gracious Me!!!!! But in all honesty I'm more of a Dad's Army fan than It ain't half hot, mum, and I don't know any of the Indian accents in that. Can yuo do the impression of the indians trying to be English?
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
It's hard on the tongue and gums, but once you get it right, it's pretty easy. And it's fun to do at parties. :-)
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In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Thanks, Toni. :)
Tennant
no problem...:)
Toni Perry If only wrote...
Ah, see... much better! =) Btw, hi to everyone!
Hi, Adeline!
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In article , "Adeline" wrote:
Hi, Adeline!!
Check out some of Marita's replies to my reviews that have requests for you to help out as the Queen of Recall...
And 619 & 703 are up...
Tennant
It works? it won't highlight on mine...
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Moving words about without really understanding what each one means.
Tennant
gotcha! :)
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Really? I thought it was Turkish. :-))
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Nope, Arabic... :)
Tennant
Do you know anymore arabic? I know a bit.
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
The Arabic for "Tesekk�r edirim" is "Kattar kheirak".
Notice the slight similarity...
Tennant
do you know Yala?
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
No, what's that?
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Yoda's long lost sister?? :-))
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lol!!!!
actually it means lets go, or go
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ...
Hey...I used that word a couple of times on some Marocan guys I worked with. I think I kept saying "Yala yala emchi!" Or something like that. :-)
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Cool!!!! well that's all the arabic I know...
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
I just kept repeating it to piss them off a bit, but they thought it was funny. :-)
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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
.......vafa napoli!! :-)))
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In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
Sihhatmiza!
Tennant
<~~~whispers to Cihan Cihanim, ne suyledi?
Toni, Tennant must have meant "Sihatimiza" which means "Cheers" in Turkish. That is to say "Cheers" when drinking alcohol.
Cihan.
PS: Just thought it was worth mentioning. I get Turkish TV channels via satellite and yes, they have Friends too -although they show the episodes very irregularly and around midday-. And it's dubbed! It always cracks me up (even more so) to see the gang speak in Turkish...
ohhhh!!!! Tesukkur ederim Cihanim.
hehe. I can imagine what the Turks do to Chandler and Ross voices! scary scary scary! is it like that... Do they have the voice of that Turkish comedian I forget his name, ummm, Kemal Sunal! I reckon he'd be a good Joey
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Why Tennant....have you forgotten what curiosity did to the cat? :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Why? Why?? What did curiosity do to the cat????????
Tennant
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 15:44:21 GMT, Tennant Stuart wrote:
She ... died, Jill ...
In article , [email] (CleV) wrote:
lol
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
I don't get it. (and I'm not doing a Joey imitation)
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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
Well....remember what Freddy Kruger, Jason Vorhees and Michael Meyers did to their victims? They're nothing compared to Curiosity. :-)
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Tennant, Toni said: "Hello Cihan! How are you this evening?" and lastly ": My name is Seran". So her name is Seran:)
Cihan.
Iyiyim Serancim, tesekk�r ederim. Seni sormali?
So I assume you weren't brought up Turkish. I in fact was. My parents don't speak Dutch, only Turkish. But I speak both the languages equally well.
It must be. I've never heard of the name "Seran" but it sounds quite nice. It rhymes with my name. We would make great twins :)
And by the way, I'm 21.
Cihan.
Iyiyim ben. Kac yasindasen? on-altidim ben. I did say that right didn't I?
I only know English, I don't know much Turkish cause my parents only ever spoke English around me. I'm learning Turkish very slowly though :)
I'm not twenty though, I told you who old I am at the top of the post. oh right you're 21! ignore my question at the top then:) Seran is a great name, but for some reason the English can't pronounce it. Australians, Italians, Dutch, Welsh, they can do it, but not the English. whats up with that? :)
In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:
How is it pronounced, then? We can read & write it though. :)
So your full name is is Seran Yusuf?
Tennant
it's pronounced, SE-rrrun, accent the Se, roll the r.
Yippity!
Please ignore this last question. I already read your other post. Toni, if you don't mind my asking, what is your real first name? Is it Turkish? Mine's obviously "Cihan".
Cihan.
I just answered you...:) in the other post... but yeah it's Turkish, and reletevily new, only about 20 years old!
The Fax Machine wrote in message ...
Dutch.
Now what? Does it matter where we are all from? The thing that got us here was the fact that we all like Friends and want to talk to other Friends-fans.
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I was just interested to know which nation posts/lurks here the most and an earlier post by myself did apologise for the terms Yank & Brit and any others you all care to use!
Zoepetier wrote in message ...
was
The Fax Machine wrote in message ...
Ok then....no harm done. I was in the south of the USA recently and I was warned never to call anyone there a redneck. That's what made me realize that people really don't like lables, eventhough you don't mean anything bad by it.
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Zoepetier wrote:
I guess you've never heard of "redneck" comedian Jeff Fozworthy, then. He made an entire career out of redneck jokes. And even rednecks thought they were funny.
Tess
Tesseract wrote in message ...
You're right. I've never heard of the guy. But I guess it's the same as one black guy calling another black guy by the n-word. When a white person uses that word on a black person, that person is called a racist.
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Zoepetier wrote:
Maybe, but "redneck" is nowhere near as serious as the n-word, as far as I know. Maybe because we don't have an unpleasant history of city people enslaving rural farmers (at least not in any formal sense!).
Tess
Tesseract wrote in message
Redneck, Hillbilly, Yank etc etc are, as far as I know, not flattering words. I've been warned not to use that on certain people, not even as a joke. So I don't. I don'tknow why I should anyway.
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actually we are a fairly well populated group during the Friends season, which doesn't start for another 2 months at the least.
You might not want to call them Yanks :) I'm a Brit.
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Me too!
Vicky
I'm German, oh wait... we're giving nick-names?
KRAUT
Regards, Didi
Didi wrote in message ...
Sour or plain? :-)
I don't even know if people outside of Holland have a name for the Dutch. I'd like to know.
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Belgians usually -disrespectfully- refer to the Dutch as "KAASKOP", which literally means "cheese head". Or sometimes "JOOP" and "KEES", two quite frequent (but to Belgians comical sounding) first names in the Netherlands. Marcel, I'm sure the Dutch have some similar names for Belgians, do you know any?
Cihan.
PS: Also, the Dutch are considered by Belgians to be (or stigmatised as being) very stingy.
[email] wrote in message ...
Marcel is a very commen name, as well as Jan, Piet and Peter. We don't call the Begians anything. We just tell lots of jokes about them. :-))
I know. We know it. We make jokes about that ourselves, just like we make jokes about the Belgian stupidity. It's not right, I know, but that's the relationship between the Dutch and the Belgians. It's all one big joke.
I actually have a favorite Belgian: Sabine Hagendoorn. I like her. :-)
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"Didi" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:8trqv5$vj9$06$[email]...
Hey - me too! Sonst noch wer? (Anyone else?)
Christoph
KRAUT, lol... then I must be a WAFFLE.
Cihan.
[email] wrote in message ...
Naaaah.....Sprouts is much better for Belgians. :-)
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BRIT, but prefer to be called WELSH
The term Yank bothers me...but I am VERY American! Typical middle-class spoiled-child American. ;) Not quite Rachel-quality tho. :)
*~Ariel~* ~Chandler:Oh, look...it's the woman we ordered ~Pheobe: Oh, oh, oh! Guess what? Chandler: The last dentist caved and now all five recommend Trident?
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Adeline wrote in message ...
Ribbit?
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Zoepetier wrote...
Eh?
Adeline wrote in message ...
Oh come on...... Frog....ribbit....SO obvious! :-)
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Zoepetier wrote:
Obvious to us... but I don't think French frogs say "ribbit".
Adeline, "ribbit" is how Americans (and apparently Dutch too) write the noise that frogs make when they croak.
Tess
Tesseract wrote in message ...
What sound do they make? Le croq? Le ribit? :-)
Well....to be totally honest, most Dutch people use the word 'kwaak'. But I, being a Dutch-Canadian, will always use the word 'ribbit'.
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Marcel, if Dutch frogs go 'kwaak', what do Dutch ducks do? ;-)
Tennant
East German ducks go Kveck. :)
Jac
Jacqui wrote in message ...
Good one! So I guess Russian ducks would go "Kvekski"? :-)
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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
"Kwak kwak" or "kwek kwek", depending on the sex of the duck. :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
Which is which?
Tennant
Zoepetier wrote...
LOL (see other post)
Well, I have learnt something today. =)
Adeline wrote in message ...
I couldn't help myself there. Sorry. This whole topic made me think of Pepe Le Pew and that stupid cat he always chases. She always go "Le purrrrrr....le mew". :-))
More than something, I think. At least more than one thing. Whatever....I'm just on a roll and in a good mood. :-)
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In article , "Zoepetier" wrote:
But it was such fun seeing by what means the unfortunate cat would acquire her white stripe every week.
Tennant
but I loved that stupid little cat... she was so cute! :)
Toni Perry If only wrote in message ... Zoepetier wrote:
Because she was a she.....female stupidity is always cute. In a way. :-)
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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
I know. That was the brilliance of that whole cartoon.
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I always thought American frogs went "bud-wei-ser" :)
Cihan.
[email] wrote in message ...
You watch way too many commercials, Cihan! :-)
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Tesseract wrote...
Nope.
Ooh, okay, thanks. =) French frogs 'say' "croooaaak". Which I guess is where the word "croak" comes from. =) But it's a really hard noise to transcribe.
Zoepetier wrote...
Nope, still don't get it.
It always amazes me how one post on Friends can easily be turned into something else! In this case, animal noises! Brilliant!!
Adeline wrote in message ...
'Friends'
The Fax Machine wrote in message ...
Apparently you haven't been reading all the threads. We have a couple of Dr. Ruths in "The seven wonders of Monica".
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Yeah, saw that one too!
Zoepetier wrote in message ...
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It's a good thing this newsgroup is unmoderated. :-)
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In article , "The Fax Machine" wrote:
Linguistically these noises are called "onomatopoeias". I remember them from English class a couple of years back. We had to learn every verb refering to a sound made by an animal, e.g. a dog barks, a cat mews, etc. (there were some really hard ones in there like dolphins and stuff). And also under the topic of onomatopoeias we had to learn in which case we had to use verbs like splitter, splatter, splutter, clunk, clank. I don't think I'll ever know why some metal objects "clank" and others "clunk". It was *hard* and needless to say I flunked the test...bigtime.
Cihan.
[email] wrote:
That's simple.
A "solid" object would "clunk" while a hallow, or thin metal object (with the ability to reverberate) would "clank".
Adeline wrote in message:
In the English language, a frog (grenouille) makes the sound "ribbit". That's sort of what they sound like.
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:24:36 -0000, "The Fax Machine" wrote:
CANUCK
Mike Harrison wrote in message ...
Right on!! I used to live in Quesnel, BC and I was just all over BC and Alberta a few weeks ago. Partially on horseback.
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American :)
~Teresa~
The Fax Machine wrote in message ...
Im a BRIT as well
kate
The Fax Machine wrote:
I'm not bothered by the term Yank, so...
YANK
(BTW, you Brits should know in case you don't already that in the USA, the term Yankee distinguishes Northerners from Southerners. In that sense I am not a Yankee since I'm from the South. But the Civil War was over ages ago, right?)
Tess
Tesseract wrote
the
I am
ago,
We've had this discussion on ATF a few times over the last few years. To be fair, every time someone refers to the entire/bits of the United Kingdom as England, or worse still, London, then another notch in the "let's refer to the US as Yankees even though we know it's wrong" stick is marked. :)
Jac (Besides, referring to some friends (Texans, Acadians and NooYawkers) as "Americans" has also led to problems IME. It's hard to come up with a valid name for you all, since "American" is no more accurate than "Yank". At least "British" describes the inhabitants of the British Isles. "American" is far too big a name for one country...)
In article , "Jacqui" wrote:
How about USAnians?
Tennant
Did you just move down here?
In article , "The Fax Machine" wrote:
offend
"Yanks," hmm. Hardly ever used self-referentially, and generally used derogatorily. ... I'm American (kind of an un-PC ignoring of the rest of the North American continent as well as the South American, but it's general usage). Specifically (and facetiously), I'm Californian, and we just barely think of ourselves as part of the Union. More specifically, I'm Northern Californian, and we barely think of ourselves in a lump with our SoCal brethren.
Ida
Well @least we now know where most posters/lurkers are from
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Grace X wrote in message ...
Grace X wrote:
Un-PC? But it's perfectly correct, which is _why_ it's general usage. We just happen to have named our country the same thing as the continent. Short-sighted of us, but it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with calling ourselves what we are... Americans. Citizens of the Republic of Mexico aren't Republicans; they're Mexicans, and the country is colloquially known as Mexico. And so forth for the names of most of the world's other countries. Same goes for us. We're Americans, and our country is frequently referred to simply as America. Our full formal name is just more commonly known and used than those of most other countries. I won't apologize for calling myself American! I also don't understand why someone a few posts ago complained about "American" not being specific enough for everyone in our country. It certainly seems accurate enough to me.
Tess
American, strictly speaking, is as wide a definition as European (which covers everyone from Portugal to the Ukraine, the Faroes to Turkey - quite a range). You're on a continent that stretches from extreme North to extreme South. Canadians, Mexicans, Peruvians - all Americans. The USA is the only country arrogant* enough to appropriate a continent's name for itself.
That said, there is no sensible alternative for inhabitants of the United States...
*linguistically
Jac
Which kind of makes sense as the country doesn't have a real name. Technically "The United States of America" is more a designation or a reference than it is a name. Maybe a sensible alternative is a name that says what state you are from, but I don't think there are names for that or are there? Could you say "I'm a Kentuckian/Wisconsiner/Texan/Hawaiian, etc."?
Cihan.
In article , Jacqui wrote:
Usanians?
Tennant
Jacqui wrote:
American, also strictly speaking, means someone from the country of America. Face it, the word has two different and equally valid meanings. I agree that everyone on the continents of North and South America is American in terms of what continent we live on. But if you ask someone who lives in Mexico what their nationality is (the original subject of this thread), how often are they going to respond "American"? Never. They'll say "Mexican". In terms of nationality, it is just as accurate to call someone from America (the country) an American as it is to call someone from Canada (the country) a Canadian.
Tess
Your country is not called America. It's called the United States of America, implying that you are a bunch of federated states within a landmass called America. History, geography and common sense will tell you that. Your commonly used meaning of "American" is not a valid one. Canada and Mexico are countries, "America" is not. That's why all your athletes wear USA not A...
Jac
Try telling 200 million people that. Who cares anyway? It's a nickname that just stuck. Officially it is the United States of America. Everyone knows that an American is from the U.S.A. Who cares if it's politically correct or not?
I mean have you ever called a bandage a band-aid? A tissue a kleenex? Everyone calls them by a brand name when technically they are not the correct names, still people get that you are not asking for a specific brand name, but rather the product in general.
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EsotericGrrrl wrote:
I hope not, since the trademark Band-Aid is what we would call a plaster. A bandage is something entirely different.
You'd be lucky to hear that used generically in Britain, it's not something we say. A tissue is a tissue.
Everyone
There are some trade names that are used generically, but not many in Britain (hoovering is the only one that comes to mind immediately, and a lot of people still say vacuuming), and a few that you wouldn't even realise were trade names once - zip and escalator, for example.
Jac
d'oh I love this part! Comparing diff countries :-)
Ooh, well, Germans use Kleenex as well, since 'Kosmetiktuch' is just too long. Same thing with handkerchiefs (do you guys still use that term? that's what we learned in school), which Germans refer to as 'Tempo', since 'Papiertaschentuch' is also too long. I guess long words are generally a problem of the German language.
So, do Brits say 'to copy' or 'to xerox'?
One thing I hate about my language, is that sometimes we use English words for a thing, which Brits or Americans don't use. Best example would be: 'Handy', which we use for a 'Cell(ular) phone' (or 'Mobile phone' for the brits). This is just stupid. I mean a lot of things are 'handy'...
Regards, Didi
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:15:54 +0100, "Didi" wrote:
"Handy" is also used in a few Asian countries. Dunno why. They're *obviously* "mobiles".
Well you guys arent called United Kingdomers either, even though technically thats what you should be called, and in any case what makes the term valid is its use not its rule (de facto instead of de jure) we dont call germans deutchlanders even though thats what they call themselves. We call them germans because thats what they are in english, just as in spanish theyre called Alemanes (a german tribe), all the terms are correct for the people who use that term where they live. So its the common use of the word which makes it valid not the techicalities behind it, therefore it is correct to use americans just like it is to use britons (even though they may be welsh or scots, or jutes, or angles or.....)
William Pora wrote:
We are British because the inhabitants of England, Scotland, and Wales all live in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - Great Britain is the island, and no other kingdom/state occupies it. If you want to make valid distinctions between the British peoples, then the Northern Irish are not "British", and you can use English, Scottish, and Welsh, as these countries do have separate identities for various uses (e.g. football).
We do use UK as an international identifier, although our athletes wear GB - invalid for Northern Irish competitors but no system is perfect.
Jac
And america is the continent, shrug
If
and so do we so you can call u texans, oklahomans, nebraskans, californians, delwarians, tennesseans, .....
Neithers ours, in any case as i said common usage makes our name valid not the technical syntax
Jac,
So if anyone asked Tess what nationality she is, what would she, according to you, have to answer?
Cihan.
Hmm, how bout "US citizen"?
Anyhoo, I think this discussion is getting boring. According to a chinese saying, this is "taking off the pants to fart".
Tess is right. Although it might not be 100% correct, the way to refer to a citizen from the USA is simply "American". I mean, the state is called "United States of AMERICA". So, why not call them Americans. Plus, if you ask other 'Americans', like Mexicans, Brazilians or whoever, they (although, they are actually Americans themselves) would refer to people from the US as 'Americans'. So, why making a big fuzz out of it? Everyone knows who is meant by 'Americans'.
Plus, while we're still at it. You English-speaking guys, why are you guys calling Germans, Germans? I know, the country is called Germany. Why are the French speaking guys refering to them as Allemans? Because the country is called Allemagne. In contrary, the Germans call themselves 'Deutsche', and it's Deutschland (which comes from the Teutons). So, let's not fight over that. The whole subject is too complex to make a huge thread about, I doubt, we'll be able to find a consense here, plus it does not have anything to do with 'Friends'.
Regards, Didi (the man from Teutonland, whose ancestors are from the country of the middle)
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Like I said, there's no sensible alternative. It doesn't mean it's linguistically valid though.
Jac
Jacqui wrote:
As I already pointed out, the full name of "Mexico" is not Mexico, it's something else longer, something to the effect of Democratic Republic of Mexico, but I don't see you making any bones about the fact that its citizens are known simply as Mexicans. As I already pointed out, the same is true of many many other countries in the world. As I already pointed out, the same goes for our country. As I already pointed out (I'm starting to think you didn't read my post at all), its formal name is the United States of America, it's colloquially known as America, and it's just as proper to call me an American as it is to call someone from the Democratic Republic of Mexico, Mexican or someone from the People's Republic of China, Chinese as opposed to a People's Republican. I'm an American in both senses of the word. End of story. Quit trying to tell me what I am or am not.
Tess (wondering what we should call someone from the United Arab Emirates)
Tesseract wrote in message ...
Tess, I think Jacqui is trying to say that it's strange that citizens from the United States call themselves American, while Canadians and Mexicans don't. North America and South America combined are one continent, but Brazilians don't call themselves Americans. They call themselves Brazilians. Just like in Europe. Germans don't call themselves Europeans. They are, but they don't. Europe is a continent, but Germany is a country within Europe. Like Canada is in North America. Citizens of Canada call themselves Canadians. The question Jacqui wants an answer to is why citizens of the United States call themselves Americans. Ofcourse there's no other name for you now, but when did the citizens decide to call themselves Americans and why? Your country could (and in my opinion) should be called United States, but what sort of name should we have to give you if we would look back in time? Now, I'm not attacking you in any way, shape or form, it's just not easy for some people to understand. I'm half Canadian and I don't even understand. I'm European, but the Dutch don't say to tourists "Hi....I'm so and so....I'm European.". We say..."Hi, I'm so and so....I'm Dutch." You know? It doesn't matter to me, but this whole thread has kind of gotten me interested. That's all.
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Zoepetier wrote:
Thanks, Marcel, that's kind of the gist. Everyone belongs to a continent, but Americans refer to their people by the name of the entire continent. To a lesser extent it also applies to India, although it's a sub-continent and therefore not quite the same issue (and several bits of it that don't NOW belong to the country India used to belong to it anyway).
Europeans *don't* say they're Europeans. Brazilians *don't* say they're Americans, but they could. There is a dangerous tendency to say "we're Americans and Mexicans (etc) aren't" which gets very very dodgy...
Jac
Jacqui wrote:
I can see both sides of the argument. To be more precise, we should have been the "United States of North America", and we would be called "North Americans", along with those inhabitants of the area-formerly-known-as-Mexico, and the area-formerly-known-as-Canada.
BUT
We called ourselved the United States of America, and grabbed the nickname "American" first. So we get it. I like it. It's easier than saying I'm a "United Statesian".
Jacqui wrote in message ...
Still....I wouldn't know what else to call someone from the U.S. If someone says they're American, you immediately know which country they're from. So making a big deal out of it wouldn't be good.
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 03:26:53 GMT, Tesseract wrote:
Although this would conversely trouble all the Chinese people in the world who aren't from China.
arabian isn't it?
The continent is not America, it is North America. If you want to refer collectively to Mexicans, Canadians, and Americans, you would call them North Americans. The same would go for South America.
As it is, the USA is the only country on either continent where the word "America" is actually part of the name of the country itself. That's why there's never any confusion about which country is being referred to when someone talks about America or Americans.
Also, I'm pretty sure that if you go to Canada and try to insist that they're really Americans, they just might run you out of town! :)
Chuck Edson wrote in message ...
I'm positive of that. The relationship between Americans and Canadians seems to be pretty good now, but 20 years ago it was hell where I lived. I've seen hockeygames get out of hand just because there were Americans at the rink.
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In article , Tesseract wrote:
So it's correct to say "American", because you come from America, and it is correct to say "America", because that's where Americans come from? And America is not a continent but a country, because there are two continents called "North America" and "South America"???
Tennant
Well unfortunately we can't ask the people who named the country that because they're long dead. I'll probably get flamed but I don't remeber, so when were the continents labeled as North and South America?
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EsotericGrrrl wrote:
Ya.
And where's the dividing line? Is it the "thinnest" part of the land bridge in Panama, or is it the equator
In my mind, the equator passes through "South America", and there is a portion of South America that is north of the equator.