Terry Garr.

Is the mother of Phoebe,the mother as Frank? If is like that,What in the episode of "the puppy"(that she gives to Phoebe)she said:"I know becouse I gave up 2 children(I thought she is talking about Phoebe and Ursula),What about Frank? Thanks G

Frank Jr and Phoebe are only half sibilings. They do not have the same mother, only the same father. Frank is "the result" of Phoebes dad's second marriage.

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Guille wrote:

no, she's not Frank's mother, only Phoebe's and Ursula's. Phoebe and Frank have only the same dad

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:18:13 +0100, Guille wrote:

Hmm, this is a difficult issue.

First a few words about me: I live in Denmark, I have not seen every episode and therefore I am not an expert on this wonderful show...

OK, here we (I) go:

1. Teri is the mother of Phoebe and Ursula 2. Frank Buffay Senior is father of Phoebe and Ursula and Frank Buffay Junior

? But is Teri also the mother of Frank Buffay Junior? Or is there a third (unknown) party involved?

At some point Phoebe/Ursula's grandmother dies. Frank Buffay shows up for the funeral (and lies about his name).

The next day, he gives Phoebe a note to give to (girls�s name here) and Phoebe tells him that (girls�s name here) died 17? years ago.

I hope this can help - or maybe make someone else contribute to this thread...

Hey, I came up with a word for this tricky subject: Phoebeology - yeah! :-)

"Martin M. Larsen" wrote in message news:[email]...

Hi short answer no. They only have the same father you see Frank Jrs mom in the episode when Phoebe meets Frank Jr (sorry cant think of the name)

The girls name is Lily, Phoebes other mom. The one that raised her.

In article , "Ellie" wrote:

Teri is the actress's name. The mother's name is Phoebe Abbott.

Yep. His first wife Lily brought up the twins as her own daughters after Phoebe Senior ran off. Ursula discovered the truth when she read Lily's suicide note, but she destroyed it to prevent Phoebe Jr from finding out.

The episode was 221 "TOW the Bullies", although the young lad who dropped a condom in Phoebe's coin collection in 206 "TOW the Baby on the Bus" *might* also have been Frank Jr.

Tennant

"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

Thanks Tennant my mind went blank on the name of that one. And I know some people think it was Frank Jr. in TOW the Baby on the Bus but I haven't made up my mind yet.

In article , "Ellie" wrote:

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I missed the episode in which Phoebe reunites with her father, Frank, Sr., which aired some time ago. What WAS the reason why Frank, Sr. ran off when Phoebe and Ursala where little, and how and why did he meet up with Frank, Jr.'s mom? (Played be Laraine Newman.)

BTW, can anyone tell me the name of Frank, Jr.'s wife and why they were unable to conceive, leading up to Phoebe's decision to be their surrogate mother of their children. (She had triplets, two boys and a girl.)

Frank Jr.'s wife was named Alice. She was Frank's home ec teacher. She could not conceive, she was too old. The babies were actually two girls and a boy: Frank Jr. Jr. (boy), Leslie (girl), and Chandler (girl).

I don't know if the children's names have ever been written down on the show but since Leslie spelled ie is a man's name and Lesley spelled ey is a woman's name, it might make it clearer to call her Lesley.

Not that that will help poor old Chandler...

Jac

Jacqui wrote:

Yep.

Actually I think that it helps Chandler to be more in touch with his feminine side, since it offsets his homosexual panic.

Tennant

On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:33:01 GMT, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Let's just hope he doesn't find that stop-smoking-tape again :-)

sayonara

But for some reason I never saw this post...

I was talking about *baby* (girl) Chandler, who is not helped by a different spelling of her name, it's still impossible to tell what sex she is from her name. Poor thing.

Jac

In article , Jacqui wrote:

Oh, I was misled by your phrase "old Chandler".

Tennant

On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:33:01 GMT, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Let's just hope he doesn't find that stop-smoking-tape again :-)

sayonara

"Jacqui" wrote in message news:93deqh$bl0$[email]...

Are you sure about that? I have 3 friends named Leslie/Lesley. 2 are female and one is male. One female spells her name Lesley while the other is Leslie and oddly enough the male spells it Lessley.

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Well if people can't spell their own names.... there are people who spell Nicky with two cs and a ickle twee doodled heart over the i but that doesn't mean it's a proper name.

Fom Brewer's Dictionary of Names - Leslie ... first name of Scottish origin. As a girl's name the spelling is usually Lesley.

In article , "Ellie" wrote:

The IMDB has 229 actors & 203 actresses named Leslie but only 4 actors & 80 actresses named Lesley

None named Lessley.

Tennant

Did you take account of the fact that a good 40 of those female Leslies have "(aka Lesley)" after their names? (That doesn't come out of the 80 total since the IMDB calculates these things weirdly.)

And as I said, almost all of the female Leslies are American...

Jac

Jacqui wrote:

No, I didn't take such an account, I just went to the main listing in the database. But I've now had a good look, and the only such akas are...

the three actresses Leslie Ash, Leslie Nicholson, & Leslie Nunnerley;

the three actors Leslie Bradley, Leslie Casey, & Leslie Phillips;

the production supervisor Leslie Huntley; and the writer Leslie Mason.

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, I prefer the IE spelling for boys and the EY spelling for girls, but the world is not as neat as we'd like.

Tennant

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No, people think that calling their children by bizarre/mispelled/wrong-gendered names is "smart" and it's not. That's not "not being neat", it's being "dumb".

I know a couple whose daughter was named Jesse - they refused pointblank to believe it was a male name until shown a) a Bible b) a names book and c) an episode of The Dukes of Hazzard. They did at least have the grace to change the spelling of their daughter's name to Jessie before the child was christened.

Jac

Jacqui wrote:

Can you name some of your 37 other Leslie aka Lesley actresses? Are you by any chance referring to Real Names, which in the world of the IMDb are a different kettle of fish from akas?

Indeed.

And let us not forget "Shirley"...

I know a couple who have two toddlers of the same age who look exactly like each other (as far as strangers can see) except that one is a boy and the other is a girl - they refused pointblank to believe that their children are not identical twins.

Tennant

Ah, historically more complicated, rather like Tracy, Stacy, Clare and so on...

Jac

Jacqui wrote:

Indeed, and one could write a dissertation on the Kims in "Neighbours"...

Tennant

In article , "Ellie" wrote:

It's an open question. At the time of the episode he wasn't. What probably happened was that Giovanni Ribisi made a good impression in the bit-part and was cast as Frank Junior. But the door is open for a script writer to make the connection and have Frank tell Phoebe about the first time he met her.

Tennant

Tennant Stuart wrote in article ...

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No, that can't have been Frank Jr., because remember he said it was his first time in "The City"( I think it was when he was melting stuff).

Steve Vernon

In article , "Steve Vernon" wrote:

No, he doesn't, Steve. Sorry.

Frank is not used to the city, he's still excited by it, but nowhere does it say that he has never been there before on a visit.

Tennant

Tennant Stuart wrote in article ...

OK, it doesn't, and I don't know where I got that from. Maybe something from where we meet Frank Jr. (221?)

Steve

In article , "Steve Vernon" wrote:

Here's everything he has ever said on the show...

221 "TOW the Bullies"

FRANK: Yeah. What? [a young guy comes around the corner]

FRANK: Hey lady. Hey wait up. How do you know my dad?

FRANK: Heavy.

FRANK: No but he didn't really talk about anything.

FRANK: Except stilts.

FRANK: Yeah, he loved stilts. One time I was upstairs, I was stealing
       cigarettes out of my mom's purse, and uh, all of a sudden I look
       over and there's my dad's head bobbing past the window. He just
       had this big smile on his face and he was waving 'cause he was
       always happiest when he was on his stilts.

FRANK: Yeah.

FRANK: Me neither. So you're like my big sister.

FRANK: This is huge, you can buy me beer.

FRANK: I gotta friend named Mark.

FRANK: Cool, alright. So maybe, ya know, I could give you a call sometime, we could talk or somethin'.

FRANK: Alright.

FRANK: Okay, yeah.

FRANK: Yeah hey, you know if you want I can take you around back and show you where he hit his head on the rain gutter.

305 "TOW Frank Jnr."

FRANK: How are you?

FRANK: Hi.

FRANK: Hey.

FRANK: Whoa!

FRANK: Whoa!!

FRANK: Hey, how do you guys get anything done?

FRANK: Yeah, I was thinking that maybe we could go down to Times Square
       and pick up some ninja stars. And, oh, um, my friend Larry, he
       wants me to take a picture of a hooker.

FRANK: What?

FRANK: What, wait, you mean like this? (does it)

FRANK: You're not doing it.

FRANK: When's your birthday?

FRANK: I know a guy who's the 18th.

FRANK: October 25th.

FRANK: Melt stuff.

FRANK: Yeah.

FRANK: Yeah, you can melt art. Hey, can I use your phone?

FRANK: No, I wanna melt it.

FRANK: (starts laughing) Yeah!

FRANK: G'night.

FRANK: Oh, excellent. (starts to melt the fire extinguisher's hose.)

FRANK: Whoa! Big octopus.

FRANK: Hey, what kind of work do you do?

FRANK: You-you work at one of those massage parlors?

FRANK: (starts laughing) Wow! That's wild! No, I had no idea.

FRANK: You mean like watch?

FRANK: Well, I don't think this, y'know.

FRANK: Yeah! Hey, do Monica & Rachel work there?

FRANK: Ow!-Ow!-Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow! Y'know, ow!

FRANK: She broke my arm.

FRANK: No, she touched mine first!

FRANK: So wait, what's the deal here, I can have sex with you, but I can't touch you?

FRANK: No, you're a masseuse, it's cool, I'm not a cop.

FRANK: Wait that's-that's, what that's not what you do?

FRANK: I don't know, I mean, y'know, this is the city y'know, I just, I mean, I don't know.

FRANK: Oh, wait, no you're right, no it was perfect and I can't believe that I screwed it up so bad.

FRANK: Well, no, maybe-maybe it wasn't perfect, but y'know it was pretty cool, y'know, 'cause we had all those great talks y'know.

FRANK: Well y'know about the tongue thing, y'know, and how I told you about my likes and my dislikes...

FRANK: How-how I like to melt stuff, and how I dislike stuff that doesn't melt.

FRANK: Yeah, y'know I feel like I can really talk to you 'cause y'know you're my sister, y'know.

FRANK: Then I go feel your friend up and make you mad at me.

FRANK: You hopped a little bit. Yeah, I really sorry.

FRANK: This?

FRANK: Oh come on, we went, we went to Times Square, we found ninja stars, I almost got my arm broken by a hooker...

FRANK: Well, when I tell my friends about her she will be.

318 "TOW the Hypnosis Tape"

FRANK: (entering) Hi!

FRANK: Hi!

FRANK: How are you?

FRANK: Oh, well y'know, I would've called but I lost your phone number
       and then ah, my Mom locked me out of the house so I couldn't find
       it. And then, I tried to find a pay phone, and ah, the receiver
       was cut off. So...

FRANK: Ah, oh, the ah, vandalism.

FRANK: Well, we got into a fight 'cause ah, she said I was too immature to get married.

FRANK: Oh, yeah!

FRANK: Oh, I knew you'd be so cool about this. Alright, ah, hey, do you want to meet her?

FRANK: Do you?

FRANK: Okay, cool, alright, she just ah, parking the truck. (to Joey) I'm gonna, I'm gonna get my ah, my fianc�e man!

FRANK: (entering with his fianc�e Alice, who is obviously much, much
       older than he is) Hey! Hey! This is ah, my fianc�e, Mrs.Knight.
       (he points out Phoebe to her)

FRANK: Well um, I was in ah Mrs.Knight's ah, I mean Alice, sorry, Alice, I always do that. I was in her ah, Home Ec class.

FRANK: Yeah, she was my best teacher.

FRANK: I mean, how hard can it be? Y'know, I mean, y'know, babies,
       y'know who doesn't want babies right? And besides y'know, I never
       had a Dad around, and ah, now-now I always will, 'cause y'know,
       it'll be me. Right?

FRANK: What, you don't think I know that?

FRANK: Okay, but isn't sex better when it's with one person that you really, really care about.

FRANK: You don't have it any more?

FRANK: Okay, so wait, alright, so how does that make things better?

FRANK: Okay, so what you used to have with Rachel, is what I've got with Alice.

FRANK: It's so cool man, it's so, it's just 'cause being with her is so much better than like not being with her.

FRANK: You can have it!

FRANK: It's out there man! I've seen it! I got it!!

FRANK: Alright, man!!

FRANK: (hiding under a pile of clothes) Hi. (She jumps up screaming.) Wait, no! Just put the mail down. It's-it's me!

FRANK: Oh well, um, your, your laundry just smelled so good, that I thought I'd curl up in it. Is that alright?

FRANK: Oh, well just probably the worst one since I've been alive.

FRANK: Umm, Alice ah, she ah, called it off.

FRANK: Uh, no, not really, just that I was too young, y'know, but I
       don't see how I could all of the sudden be too young, 'cause I'm
       older than I was when we first got together.

FRANK: Yeah, if the best is like unbelievable pain!

FRANK: Y'know, I just was finally happy y'know. For the first time in my
       life! After my Dad left me, and then, and then getting arrested
       for stealing those birds, and then, and then the whole punctured
       lung thing! I can, it's still really hard to take deep breaths in
       cold weather, but with Alice all that stuff kinda went away. And
       now it's, and now it's gone and I don't know why!

FRANK: What?

FRANK: Wait a minute, wait, this is because of you?

FRANK: Well, you, wait no, my Mother didn't want us to be together, but the worst thing she ever did was tie me to the porch.

FRANK: Wait, y'know what, I-I came to you because I thought you'd
       understand! Oh no!! Y'know, I would storm out of here right now
       if-if I had some money, or a place to go-

FRANK: Hi, Mrs.Knight.

411 "TOW Phoebe's Uterus"

FRANK: Oh I know!! (Both he and Alice squeal hysterically)

FRANK: 'Cause it just sorta happened, y'know we were at the courthouse, we were having lunch-

FRANK: We were having lunch. Yeah and then all of the sudden we were like, "Hey! Y'know, we're here, having lunch let's get married!

FRANK: Uhh, yeah.

FRANK: See the thing is umm, we're not able to y'know, uh, conceive.

FRANK: Yeah, and they-and they say that our-that our only chance to have
       a baby is that if they take my sperm, her egg and put it together
       in a dish and then put it into another girl. So we were wondering
       if you could be the girl that we could put it into.

FRANK: Hi!

FRANK: Yeah, so we just thought we'd stop by and let you know there's still no pressure.

FRANK: (noticing the puppy) Oh, who's this little guy?! (Grabs the puppy)

FRANK: Oh, he's so cute, he reminds me of my old dog, Tumour.

FRANK: Are you serious?

FRANK: Oh, thanks.

FRANK: Oh my God, I think I'm gonna cry!

412 "TOW the Embryos"

FRANK: Well, okay, so what's now-go get, go get the eggs, put 'em in there.

FRANK: Hey, y'know I was thinking, what are the odds like if-if, if you stuff like 200 of them in there?

FRANK: Well, you see, the-the thing is, we-we only got, we kinda have one shot to make it right.

FRANK: I know! Why don't you get drunk! That worked for a lot of girls in my high school.

FRANK: (entering) Hi!

FRANK: Umm, it's a lollipop and a uh, a home pregnancy test.

FRANK: Okay. (They both squeal in expectation.)

FRANK: MY SISTER'S GONNA HAVE MY BABY!!!!!!!

417 "TOW the Free Porn"

FRANK: Yes.

FRANK: I finally got my band!

FRANK: Why would we be freaked?

FRANK: (They're less than happy now) Oh.

FRANK: Yeah, I've been thinking ever since you said we were having
       triplets, the best thing for me to do is to drop out of college
       and get a job.

FRANK: Yeah, refrigerator college.

FRANK: Yeah, y'know when we found out we were going to have a baby,
       y'know I figured y'know like I should y'know have like a
       career-and I love refrigerators!

FRANK: No, it's okay. We're-we're gonna have three kids! And that's-that's a different kind of dream. Three kids and no money.

503 "TOW the Triplets"

FRANK: (entering) Hey!

FRANK: (To Phoebe) Hey! Am I late? Am I late? Nobody came out yet, right?

FRANK: Uh, Delaware. She's on her way though, so until she gets here,
       I'm gonna be your coach. But don't worry, she told me all about
       the la-Mazada stuff.

FRANK: Yeah.

FRANK: (To Phoebe) What's with him?

FRANK: It's not that weird, is it?

FRANK: Oh cool! You made him cry!

FRANK: Hey, y'know, Alice is gonna be here so soon, you couldn't just like do me a favor and like, like hold them in?

FRANK: Yeah, I love you. Okay, bye! (To Rachel) Hi!

FRANK: That was Alice's mom, she said she left five hours ago. She should be here by now!

FRANK: Yeah.

FRANK: (laughs) Not to me.

FRANK: Yes, it has a head!

FRANK: I can't believe there's somebody coming out of you right now. There's somebody coming out of you! Is it? Is it? It's my son.

FRANK: YESSSSS!!!!! We got a baby boy!!

FRANK: Frank Jnr.Jnr.!!

FRANK: So gross! (He runs back to the delivery room.)

FRANK: Okay, okay, come on, you can do it. You can do it!

FRANK: Yeah!! Little Lesley is here! We got another one! Oh my God, I
       can't believe I have two-two children. How scary is that? (He
       returns to the delivery room.)

FRANK: Come on little Chandler, it's time to be born. Come on little Chandler! Come on!

FRANK: Hey, where's his thing?

FRANK: Chandler's a girl!

FRANK: They musta read the sonogram wrong. 'Cause they, 'cause they thought it was a boy, but Chandler's a girl! Chandler's a girl!

FRANK: No-no ah, everything's okay. Everybody's healthy there's 30 fingers and 30 toes.

FRANK: Yeah.

..so can you see him say it anywhere?

Tennant

<snip snip> I reackon Steve got confused with this quote...

but, then I'm not Steve so I don't know... :)

Toni Perry If only wrote in article ...

I am, and you're probably right!

Steve Vernon

hehe, tis confusing in't it?

In article , [email] (Toni Perry If only) wrote:

Could be, Toni. :)

Tennant

ummm, cause I got confused when I heard it too :)

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

ISTM that Phoebe should have picked up some sort of psychic connection vibe if 'condom guy' had actually been her brother.

In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

She didn't pick up on Chandler having sex in London.

Tennant

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

But her pregnancy was messing up her powers! :)

her anger about not being allowed to play in the coffee shop threw her off. :)

In article , [email] (SHNOCODY) wrote:

Yes, very good, I like that. :)

Tennant