Hi group, Does anyone know when Warner will release Season 2 on DVD? I haven't seen any comment about this, but I am really anxious about it. Actually, I am thinking that they might not release ALL the nine seasons on DVD. My concern is that, once the series is over, they don't have any "reason" to sell them.
Later, Camilo
if you have a multi-region dvd player or even a multi-region vhs player, you can order the complete series from series 1 until the latest episode in series 8. You can order it on dvd or vhs but in region 2 either on www.blackstar.co.uk or www.amazon.co.uk or www.dvdstreet.co.uk they are about �50.00 for a full season, wich is about $40 odd for a season.
I have them all on dvd and the first 6 seasons also on vhs, before I bought a dvd player, so I basicly have doubles of them all.
"Camilo" wrote in message news:69fD8.49336$[email]...
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In article , "Kid Rock" wrote:
The Season 1 set has a trailer for Season 2 saying it will be "soon".
I think that what counts is how well the DVDs sell. They could release the first six seasons by May 2003, and if Season 6 sells well then they will release Season 7 - and if that sells well, Season 8, then 9.
Yes, you can, but not only are the new Season 1 DVDs of much higher quality, the set is also economical at about �23 if you shop around.
�50 is well over $70, you're converting in the wrong direction. :)
You can buy from http://www.dvdzone2.com/ at almost half those prices.
Tennant
On Sun, 12 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Nice & specific then. :)
How could they not!
But we'll still get them first! :)
Really? Are you saying the PAL versions were done very badly - they look OK to me.
Not that economical if you've already bought them for R2. :)
"Paul Hyett" wrote in message
<Tennant>
Ah but as I think you mentioned yourself you may be able to flog off your R2 to some R1-unaware person and possibly even make a profit! But before I try to do that... Tennant does this mean that your R1s have now arrived? What is initial impression? Are there sufficient differences making the purchase worth the time... will you be re-reviewing the episodes (I guess there would have to be lots of change for you to do this)?
Pete
In article , "Pete Bartlett" wrote:
Yes, they came a week ago, but I've been so busy that I've only had time to watch a few of the episodes.
Very good. My main complaint would be that only 101 has a commentary, but even so it's great to hear what Bright, Kauffman & Crane think of the show - and us... ;)
If you've got the R2S1 discs, then you already have an extended 101, and if you have the "Best Of" boxed sets, then you already have the extended 107/114/116/117/118 also. From what I've seen, the extra footage is comparable with those, of which the best are 104 & 106.
That depends on how much interest there is. It might be fun to work my way through the first 5 seasons which I've never reviewed (apart from 305 "TOW Frank Jr." which I'll repost if you want).
Tennant
"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message
To be honest any commentary is enough to make the R2-->R1 conversion. But wouldn't it be great if either the cast or the Big BKC could be persuaded to add their thoughts to more episodes?
I'm very much a R2 baby so it looks like the R1s are worth buying.... having said that I just /know/ I am going to end up with triple copies of everything (R1/R2/Downloaded from the internet)
Well I think this has to be your decision. Any who is bothered by "Friends" enough to read a newsgroups is going to be au fait with what happened in S1-S5. On the other hand you might like to review them as an interesting/almost cathartic exercise. If you did review them, then I for one would read them with interest - alas I am too lazy/too busy to review the reviews with the justice they deserve.
Pete
In article , "Pete Bartlett" wrote:
Absolutely.
Definitely, though it looks like the discs are R0s.
Well, you could delete your downloads, and then run a utility that makes sure that the police cannot recover them from your hard discs.
Thanks Pete, maybe I'll do it in the summer hiatus - but first it will be the supersized version of 801, and the original 803.
Tennant
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
I'd say relax - unless you are running a major piracy ring, it'd cost far more to prosecute you than they'd get back in fines. This is the same reason that casual video copying is overlooked.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Since fines can run into the hundreds of thousands of pounds, they can easily afford to prosecute you, and make a tidy profit on the deal.
Tennant
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
That only works on major piracy rings - there's no point fining some teenager with a TV card & a CD burner that much. They'd obviously never be able to pay it, so once again the courts would be out of pocket.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Oh well then, you might as well steal from shops then, since the courts would be out of pocket if the police were daft enough to arrest you.
Tennant
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Whether right or wrong, CD/DVD/video piracy are considered differently from more obvious forms of theft though.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
That's a rationalisation. People go to jail for less.
Tennant
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Yeah, but if everyone who had an illegal video was convicted, the UK would be one massive gulag! :)
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Tell that to the people who are in jail for less.
Tennant
Disregarding the moral issues for a moment, is it clear what the illegalities with downloading TV shows? It is legal to video record a TV show and it is legal to put them on things like TiVo.. so presumably it is legal to have a copy on a computer. Though making that copy available to other people is not allowed? What about /taking/ a copy from another person?
Even though I know I will buy the DVDs as well as continue to subscribe to E4 because Friends is aired there first, I suppose my use of the p2p networks such as KaZaa is wrong because my being there sustains the existence of the networks for people who will merely get a free download and do not recognise the contribution of the makers of the programme by buying the DVD or whatever.
Having said that, I probably will still go hunting for the finale come Friday... I just love the show too much!
Pete
In article , [email] (Pete Bartlett) wrote:
AFAIR, you are allowed to record a TV show for time-shifting purposes, but you must erase it within a certain period, say six weeks. Trading of tapes is illegal. The penalties for intellectual property theft in this country are quite severe, even if prosecution is less likely.
Whether you intend to eventually buy the DVD or not, this is what it says at the end of each episode of "Friends"...
"This Motion Picture is protected under the laws of the United States and other countries, and its unauthorized duplication, distribution, or exhibition may result in civil liability and criminal prosecution. �1995 Warner Bros. Television, All Rights Reserved. Country of first publication United States of America. Warner Bros. Television is the author of this film motion picture for the purpose of Article 15 (2) of the Berne Convention and all national laws giving effect thereto."
..and on the DVD that is followed by this...
"FBI WARNING Federal law provides severe civil and criminal penalties for the unauthorized duplication, distribution, or exhibition of copyrighted motion pictures, video tapes, or video discs. Criminal copyright infringement is investigated by the FBI and may constitute a felony with a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine."
Tennant
"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...
I remember researching something about this about 4 years ago. If I remember correctly in the US it is only illegal if you sell a copy for more than the cost of the blank videotape and postage. Maybe I didn't do enough research, but I don't think it is illegal to keep a personal copy. However, if you tape a show and then sell tickets for people to come watch it the action is then illegal.
I am fairly certain the wording of the law only forbids making a profit. However it has been quite awhile now and it may have been they only prosecute when the can sue for loss revenue, as when they didn't get their percentage of the box office.
Katie
On Thu, 16 May 2002, res0vdhd stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Of course, you could claim you overestimated the cost of the blank tape & postage... :)
In article , "res0vdhd" wrote:
That's known as "exhibition", and it is just as illegal as duplication and distribution.
All those excuses were swept aside with the Intellectual Property Theft laws. Now, if the authorities decide to make an example of you, it will do you no good to claim that you've made little profit or were merely a recipient. You should expect to have *all* your audio/visual & computing gear confiscated, pay a six-figure fine, and spend several years in jail.
Tennant Stuart
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
That will be reduced on appeal, since your lawyer would easily show the punishment was disproportionate, and wholly unfair.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
You wish.
Tennant
"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...
computing
jail.
This is not even close to true... our highly conservative U.S. Supreme Court has continuously upheld sentences that, while grossly disproportionate to the crime committed, are within the limits set by the relevant statute. In a country where even DEATH is not considered to be "cruel and unusual punishment," how much faith can you put in the court system to recognize an unfair sentence?
Dan
In article , "Dan Silverstein" wrote:
Eeshk! Thanks for that, Dan. What happens with the Three Strikes rule if your third offence is intellectual property theft?
Tennant
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Six months actually.
Individuals are virtually never prosecuted, since you'd have take half the country to court if they were! :)
Of course, it is impossible to read to copyright message *unless* you tape it in the first place... :)
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Okay.
There was a tip-off a guy at the plant was trading in MP3s. With the co-operation of the company, the police searched the desks of everyone in the office, and whenever they found any MP3 disc, CD, DVD, or video tape in someone's desk, their homes were raided, and *all* equipment was seized. Eventually about half of it was returned, the rest was not, so about twenty people lost several thousand quid each. A handful of those ended up in court, and paid big fines on top of that. The guy who was trading in MP3s also received a suspended prison sentence, but he lost his job (& the car), and some weeks later his wife left him.
Not at all, I read the copyright message on a purchased DVD.
Tennant
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
I meant off TV - obviously if you've bought an official copy, there would be no problem.
What pisses me off though, is that on most DVD's there's no way to skip copyright messages. No-one reads them, so they are just irritating.
In message , Paul Hyett writes
Depends on the player, some can skip them.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
You can get chipped DVD players with an "FBI skip" feature.
Tennant
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
*The* FBI?
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Yep.
Did you know that Courteney Cox used to be an FBI agent?
Tennant
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
In a movie, or for *real*?
Would be worth committing a crime just to get her to 'investigate' you. :)
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
For *real*.
Alas, she wouldn't investigate you, but she might sell you a ticket.
Tennant
On Mon, 27 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Cool!
What kind of ticket?
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Yep!
Most likely a "Police" concert, since in 1984 she was working for the Frontier Booking International concert booking agency, run by her relative Ian Copeland, brother of Stewart... :-)
Tennant
On Tue, 28 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
BTW, how did we get from 'S2 on DVD', to this? :)
Paul Hyett wrote:
Presumably in the same way "Candigrrl" and I got from a thread supposed to be about the break up of Ross and Rachel to discussing which biscuits and movies we like :)
Andr�
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Would you like me to click on the Unwind Thread button for you?
Tennant
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
I've thought about this too, but to quote Phoebe 'Oh, I wish I could, but I don't want to.' :)
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Pete Bartlett stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
It's all academic anyway - I can't playback R1 DVD's via my TV, so I can't really relax when I'm watching them.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
An unconfirmed report says that the new boxed sets are R0.
Tennant
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
The region number isn't the problem - it is that my TV cannot handle the NTSC signal, and nothing I've tried to get around that has worked.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Oh yes, we've discussed this elsewhere. Get a new TV set.
Meanwhile, for everyone else, I've now had it confirmed that the new American Season 1 set does work in Region 2 players.
Tennant
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
That rather defeats the object of saving money by buying R1 DVD's! :)
Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...
I've had the R1 set for three weeks now and didn't bother to check it. You're right!
Jose
In article , [email] (Jose Alvarez) wrote:
Thanks, Jose.
Tennant
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
BOC
Such was Camilo's concern, that once the series was over, Warner Bros would not have any reason to sell the DVDs.
Yes, thanks to not being hobbled by American syndication rights.
I didn't say that. But compare 101 with 102 on your DVD. You'll see that the pilot has much better picture quality, for the extended episode was especially created by BKC. The rest were taken from transmission copies.
As for the the new S1 boxed set, if you have a high-resolution plasma TV or video projector with progressive scan, the lines of the NTSC picture can be interpolated to make new lines. On top of that, the sound is Dolby 5.0, the episodes are all extended versions, and there are many extras, including a commentary by producer/creators Bright, Kauffman & Crane.
So sell them.
BTW, I'm hearing reports that the new S1 boxed set is *not* Region 1, but Region 0. This means it can be played anywhere in the world, but please note that I haven't tested this for myself.
Tennant
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
BOC?
Other than European companies reaping the profits from imports, rather than them? :)
Yeah, I bought one with the money I found between the sofa cushions. :)
Still pointless switching, without a TV I could watch them on! :)
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
But Of Course.
Would you like a copy of my Acronyms List?
I was addressing Camilo's concerns.
Yeah, I can't afford one either.
Yeah.
Tennant
On Sat, 11 May 2002, Camilo stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
You should have no worries there, everything up to S8 is already out on DVD in Europe, so American revenue would be hurt by imports if they weren't released there.