Poll: Your opinions on the plotlines(no spoilers)

Feb 23, 2002, 3:17 AM ET41 posts by 22 posters
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Anonymous

Ok, the following questions ask for a variety of responses about your opinion on how the writers should handle the rest of series' major plotlines. Most of these questions, you should only pick ONE CHOICE for each question:

-I hope Monica and Chandler in the 9th season... a. Get divorced b. Have a baby c. Get into a major fight d. Move out of the apartment

-I will be disappointed in the Joey and Rachel storyline if the writers don't AT THE VERY LEAST... a. Have Rachel kiss Joey b. Have Rachel return Joey's love c. Have Rachel and Joey begin a relationship d. Have Rachel and Joey live together again e. Have Rachel and Joey married e. Have Rachel and Joey married with one on the way f. I won't be disappointed if even none of the above happened

-How many divorces will Ross have by the time the series end? a. 3 b. 4 c. 5 d. 6 e. 7 f. 832

-How many children borne out of wedlock will Ross have by series' end? a. 1 b. 2 c. 3 d. 4

-If you were a writer, what interesting storyline would you give the largely ignored Phoebe? a. A new love interest b. A new job c. Move in with another Friend d. Give her the triplets she once gave birth to

-How do you think the show will end couple-wise? a. R&R, M&C, J&P b. R&R, M&C c. M&C d. J&R, M&C e. J&R, M&C, R&P f. M&C, R&P g. M&C, J&P h. No couples

-What has been the best season for you? a. 1st season b. 2nd season c. 3rd season d. 4th season e. 5th season f. 6th season g. 7th season h. 8th season

-What has been the worst season for you? a. 1st season b. 2nd season c. 3rd season d. 4th season e. 5th season f. 6th season g. 7th season h. 8th season

-Looking back, what you do you think has been the most significant plot choice that has led Friends to the #1 rating this season? a. Monica and Chandler being married b. Rachel being pregnant c. Ross being found to be the father d. Joey falling in love with Rachel

-How many seasons do you think Friends should have gone on? a. It should have ended at the 8th season. b. 9 seasons are just right c. I wish they could add on a 10th season. d. They have plenty of material for an 11th season! e. In the 26th season, the story will revolve around Rachel joining AARP.

-How do you hope Friends end? (You can answer more than once.) a. Monica and Chandler remain married and have a baby b. They all end up being platonic friends c. Everyone moves away from the apartments d. Joey and Rachel walk off into the sunset e. Ross and Rachel walk off into the sunset f. Phoebe goes away with David, or some love interest g. They, as Jennifer Aniston once said, commit suicide

I will not divulge my choices to maintain an appearance of impropriety.

Branko NorwiszAnonymous

Ok, I don't know why I shouldn't answer.

C - they really need to put some fire into their relationship.

A- definetely

A

B.

A&B

C. unless the J&R and R&P means Joey gets Ross and Rachel becomes Phoebe's girlfriend - that would definetely be an ending.!!!

C&H

D - I hated the whole Emily plot

B

C. I don't know what AARP is.

Everybody walk off into the sunset. Why only Ross, Joey and Rachel should be in the ending ?

Andr� KnocheAnonymous

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c

f

a

b

dunno... all of those, except d.

b.
d.

c. or h.

dont know / dont care

b

something like c. plus I hope that they dont end the show with three couples out of six friends...

Andre

all your insults and your curses make me feel like I'm not a person and I feel like I am nothing but you made me -
Tennant StuartAnonymous

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c

c

a

b

e. The redemption of Ursula, who becomes a succesful polictician.

e

b (since h is incomplete)

e

d

e (what is AARP?)

c

Impropriety - unsuitability, lack of fitness, unseemliness, indecency? :)

Tennant

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Amy and DaveTennant Stuart

"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message

Here is a link to their site. http://www.aarp.com/

i always tease my parents about it. I call it the "old people club".

Tennant StuartAmy and Dave

In article , "Amy and Dave" wrote:

Thanks. I had to trawl through an *awful* lot of the site before I found a page where somebody bothered to say what AARP stood for.

Tennant

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p r i y aTennant Stuart

Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

You hate the fifth season??? Why? >:O

Priya

Tennant Stuartp r i y a

In article , [email] (p r i y a) wrote:

Where did I say that I hated it?

Tennant

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p r i y aTennant Stuart

Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

Okay you didn't say you hated it but you put it under the worst season. Why? Because of Mental Gellar??? Thats the only explanation I can come up with.

Priya

Tennant Stuartp r i y a

In article , [email] (p r i y a) wrote:

One of the seasons had to come last. After rating each episode from 0-5 stars, the averages worked out as follows...

      S-1  3.00
      S-2  3.42
      S-3  3.04
      S-4  2.92
      S-5  2.75
      S-6  2.96
      S-7  3.25

..but note that this list is not laminated, for Marita & I are still deliberating over many of the episodes. Even so, for me the beef episodes in the Season 5 trifle were as follows...

      501 "TOA Ross Says Rachel"
      506 "TOW the Yeti"
      507 "TOW Ross Moves In"
      510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister"
      513 "TOW Joey's Bag"
      516 "TOW the Cop"
      518 "TOW Rachel Smokes"
      520 "TOW the Ride Along"
      521 "TOW the Ball"
      523 "TOI Vegas (1)"
      524 "TOI Vegas (2)"

Tennant

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p r i y aTennant Stuart

Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

Well, you two better compare notes - Marita's chosen Season 5 as the best season. :)

You don't like these episodes? You probably don't like parts of the epsidoe but still... <shakes head>

The R&R bits weren't good but what about Chandler and Monica?

Okay, this wasn't very good.

What did you not like in this one!?

Won't argue with this.

huh???????

you didn't like the sofa bits. I think its a good episode.

This wasn't bad; Not great but not bad either.

yeah, this one was so so...

another, so so...

The face drawing, drunken wedding and the hand twin plots were outdone by the vegas proposal for me.

BTW, I had to refer the episode guide for this post. :)

Priya

Tennant Stuartp r i y a

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Did you not see my following paragraph?

They all failed to make the average grade, which is three stars.

However, none of them were so bad that they got no stars at all.

I've never really liked the comedy of frustration - instead of laughing it just makes my groin tighten. It was good to see that C+M continued their affair, but they failed to compensate for a hideous Emily, and the beginning of the end for a hapless Ross.

Two stars.

Yep - dull yeti, dull mink, and further destruction of Ross.

One star.

The health inspector story was lame, the regatta gala story only makes sense if Rachel Green is somewhat less attractive than Jennifer Aniston, and Ross was as irritating to me as he was to his new roomies. Only the sublime subplot about Joey's fort saved this from a lower rating.

Two stars.

Oh, I probably enjoyed this more than you, since I wasn't offended by the incest plot, and the fireball stuff was fun. Below average though.

Two stars.

What was great about it? Only the chemistry between Joey & Rachel and the story about Phoebe meeting her father lifted this unfunny episode.

Two stars.

You're right about the sofa, but I hated the cop even worse, for I took an instant dislike to him, and knew it would not be long before he hurt Phoebe. Joey was very good however, especially when he told Monica that she smelt like a meadow, and it was so sad after Rachel turned him down. Great foreshadowing, but weighed down by the crap.

Two stars.

What can I say about a story where the highlight is Monica telling Rachel that she stinks? That it was *marginally* better than Ross failing his faithful friend, or everyone at the party preferring ice topped with ice to real food & booze? Dire, dire, and dire.

One star.

The margarita thieves were quite good, especially when Monica kept putting her foot in it with Rachel, but I already told you what I think about Gary stories, and Phoebe had absolutely nothing to do.

Two stars.

The best way to sum up the final Gary story is I Told You So. Rachel was kinda cute, but the title story was not the contest I hoped for.

One star.

Yeah, well both Joey & Phoebe were COS, downgrading Chandler & Monica who weren't much fun but had a good ending, and Ross & Rachel who were a lot of fun, but had an ending that was spoilt for me in advance.

Two stars.

A sure sign of poor episodes. I bet you don't need to refer to the episode guide for 514 "TOW Everyone Finds Out", do you?

Tennant

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Essex9999Tennant Stuart

Tenant wrote:

What? "Ross failing his faithful friend." When did that happen? Do you dislike Ross so much that you always look for the worst possible interpretation of his actions? If you do, well, that's your right, of course, but at least we'll know your POV.

By the way, that wasn't "ice topped with ice," it was SnoCones ... crushed ice with flavored syrups poured over it. They're sort of a summery, childhood treat, and I can see where they could be a hit at a party (although I agree that it's silly to suggest that people would ignore the "real food" completely just to make Monica look bad).

Tennant StuartEssex9999

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JOEY: Ross, I wanna talk to you about something.

ROSS: What's up?

JOEY: Well, I've been thinking about this whole commercial thing, y'know
      me going up against Ben, the two of us competing, and that can't
      lead to anything good. So, I think I'm just gonna step aside. I'm
      gonna tell them that I won't audition.

ROSS: Wow, uh, Joey that's-that's great. Thanks man.

JOEY: That's it? You're-you're gonna let me do this?! This-this is my career we're talking about here!

ROSS: Well, you just-

JOEY: I just said that so you wouldn't let Ben do it! Look Ross, if anyone should step aside it should be Ben!

ROSS: Why should Ben step aside? It was his audition in the first place!

Didn't you read the rest of my post? If so, you should already know my POV, since I disliked 501 "TOA Ross Says Rachel" and 506 "TOW the Yeti" because of how the writers were destroying Ross in Season 5.

Furthermore, in the same post, I also criticised Chandler, Monica, Emily, Rachel, Gary, Monica, Rachel, Gary, Gary, Joey and Phoebe, so why aren't you accusing me of hating them? (You'd be right about me disliking Gary). The thing is, Priya & I were discussing the episodes that I did not like in Season 5, not the episodes I did like.

To see me praising & admiring Ross, check out my reviews of episodes such as 705 "TOW the Engagement Picture", 706 "TOW the Nap Partners", 709 "TOW All the Candy", 710 "TOW the Holiday Armadillo", 712 "TOW They're Up All Night", 715 "TOW Joey's New Brain", 716 "TOW the Truth About London", 719 "TOW Ross and Monica's Cousin", 723 "TOW Monica and Chandler's Wedding (part 1)", 724 "TOW Monica and Chandler's Wedding (part 2)", 801 "TOA 'I Do'", 802 "TOW the Red Sweater", 804 "TOW the Videotape", 805 "TOW Rachel's Date", 809 "TOW the Rumor", and 815 "TOW the Birthing Video" - since in those he was allowed to shine.

Yes, indeed, I was just making a succinct point. :)

Well, there you go then.

Tennant

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Essex9999Tennant Stuart

tennant wrote:

But it was WAS Ben's audition! Joey DID just tag along.

You'd have a better argument if it had been Ross himself who was asked to try out for a commercial (perhaps for hair gel? :-) Then you could make a case for him giving up what would be just a lark for him in order to help Joey. But the audition wasn't his to give up. It was his son's. A parent is unlikely to give up an opportunity for his child to help a friend, particularly when there's no guarantee that the friend would actually be helped. (As we saw, Joey would not have gotten the part anyway, although I did think that "noodle soup" business was a remarkably silly device by the writers.)

Besides, Ben has a mother, who as I recall was quite excited about the audition. I don't think Carol would have appreciated Ross giving up Ben's opportunity to do a favor for Joey.

If you want to criticize Ross for something in this episode, by all means criticize him for gloating in front of the other parents and children who weren't selected. That was unsportsmanlike. See? I can criticize Ross, too, when he clearly deserves it; but I like him, so I give him the benefit of the doubt in ambiguous situations. My point was that you seemed not to do so.

OK. I look forward to reading them.

Tennant StuartEssex9999

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Joey didn't just tag along. He went with Ross, but it was up to him to secure his own audition as the father in the commercial...

ROSS: We met this guy in the park who thought Ben was really cute,
      so he gave us his card and told us to bring him down for this
      commercial he's auditioning.
JOEY: (reading the card) Whoa! This guy is like the biggest commercial
      casting director in town! Ben takes one lousy walk in the park and
      gets an audition!! (Ross & Carol glare at him) Maybe I'll go down
      there with ya and see if I can get an audition to play the dad.

Okay, but Joey's point is that it's his *career*, he's not doing all this just for fun. Also, I hope you'll appreciate that I was trying to say why I personally didn't like the episode in just a couple of lines, rather than presenting a page of justification for every single plot point.

You'll find them on my friend Shierly's splendid site, which is at...

http://home.attbi.com/~shierly/

Tennant

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Paul HyettAnonymous

On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Anonymous stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
Tennant StuartPaul Hyett

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Awww... so far, you're the only person who didn't vote for a fight. :)

Tennant

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

I'd rather have a 'boring' couple than what happened with R&R's S3 break-up. That still annoys me 5 years later. :(

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
p r i y aAnonymous

[email] (Anonymous) wrote in message news:...

But you'll tell us once you've got everyone's answers, right?

Priya

abrahammyp r i y a

following questions ask for a variety of responses about your

c. Get into a fight that makes them separate, grow, and then come back together with her valuing him more.

Secret option G: Write a conclusion that indicates respect for all four (including baby) people involved.

3. This is a done deal. The writers have publicly said they will not let him divorce again; they realize they have taken this too far.

Grin. One. Just Ben. You see, we have another Secret Option: The judge did the paperwork wrong and they are still married. :-)

Yes, I agree with that.

M&C, R&R, Joey in Hollywood by himself, Phoebe with David the Scientist Guy.

2nd. > >

I boycotted season seven after hating season six.

Rachel becoming pregnant.

They are pushing it with nine. I think they should have left on a high note this year.

Monica and Chandler remain married and we hear her announce her pregnancy in the last episode after a year of trying.

Ross and Rachel realize after a year of co-parenting platonically that their lives simply won't work out right without each other.

Joey lands a great part in a great tv show and moves to Hollywood - where he meets up with Kate and finds himself the center of his own spinoff. The other Friends will make guest appearances during sweeps months. I'm serious. They are talking about giving Joey a spinoff, and he probably really is the best bet. This bodes badly for R&J fans, because Aniston is done with sitcoms for awhile, and she won't be coming with him.

Phoebe moves to Minsc to be with David.

Paul Hyettabrahammy

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, abrahammy stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

I don't want them to separate, even if they get back together - that storyline has been done so often in sitcoms, it has become clich�d.

Interesting, considering some of your opinions over the years about Monica.

I agree here, very much!

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
Andr� Knocheabrahammy

"abrahammy" wrote in message news:vIbe8.13488$[email]...

wow... really? what was it you hated so much about S6? And what made you come back? Have you still not watched the S7 episodes?

Andre

Kathy: Hey! Ohh.. God! Is that Baywatch? Chandler: Ahh... Yes, but I just watch it for the articles
Coca-ColaAnonymous

Rules? Bwahahahahaha!!!

E. become crime fighting super heroes, it'll be a big hit at the sweeps backed by the network because of how well Buffy and Smallville are doing for UPN and WB. :)

G. Have Joey come onto Ross, he's worked his way round the girls. The writers have already planted the seeds with their kiss and the nap partners bit.

A. Three, but one of his current marriages will be shown to have been illegitimate.

C. Three, Ross' first wife (not Carol) turns up with a teenager to which he is the father for the excuse of a quick joke, continuity is blown further to hell and the exec producers moan at us for not having better things to do with our lives.

E. Have her move to another Warner Brothers made, NBC show where she would live with a guy called Kip.

I. Monica & Chandler, Rachel & Phoebe (who have made it past Rachel's on the level kissing skills). Joey falls in love with Janice because we all knew he would and Ross gets back together with his first wife.

E. Monica in the Catwoman costume and Phoebe as Supergirl.

F. Enough to totally fill the top row of my bookcase twice with the video boxsets.

H. Monica and Chandler go on to have a spin off series where they make constant jokes at the expense of all the R&R fans in the world because they never got back together and Sam never returned home.

Always Coca-Cola (Who is in a cynical mood and is just venting. :)

Chase CorriganAnonymous

[email] (Anonymous) wrote in message news:...

c. Get into a major fight. They should separate, have some stories with other characters, give dating another go, decide they still want to be together, but accept that some changes need to be made, and start living together again. In the final episode we learn that Monica is pregnant, and Chandler is happy. There definitely needs to be some drama though.

f.

No more.

b. 2

a. Although the writers would actually have to make some effort in making the story a success. Sadly, I don't think they would.

b.

e. 5th season.

f. 6th season due to poor characterization. There are a few other lacklustre seasons though.

b.
a.

Monica and Chandler are together. Ross and Rachel are not together, but are good freinds who are willing to put any differences aside for the sake of the baby. Joey gets his 'big break'

AnonymousAnonymous

Time for me to reply....

[email] (Anonymous) wrote in message news:...

c. I kind of agree with everyone else here. I think that the "baby issue" will rear it's ugly head in the 9th season, with Chandler obviously the one hesistant to start, along with fears of being a father after what his father did to him. Some juicy stuff there for the taking.

At the very least... b. Have Rachel return Joey's love

I don't buy for a minute that this storyline was intended as a "learning experience" for Joey. Joey had about as much experience courting women as Ross did when he went after Rachel. I mean, wouldn't it have been such a waste of plots of the 1st and 2nd seasons if Rachel never reciprocated Ross's love? Unreciprocated love might work in a drama, but not in a comedy. I really think the "f"s are going to be disappointed come the season finale.

b. 4 (Has to get hitched with and dumped by Mona before it's said and done.)

No one picked f?

b. 2

Although, I think he will get full custody of at least one in the end.

c.

I think at least while Joey and Rachel's future is in limbo, Phoebe should shack up with Joey. Then only Monica remains.

d.

Choices a, b, and e, are too cliche to be endings, for different reasons.

e. 5th season (Although, anything short of a total meltdown in plots, the 8th season will be the best once it is completed)

c. 3rd season

For all those who think Ross has been beaten up lately, check out this season and look how many times Joey is "painfully stupid" in this season. Painful to watch, and painful that the writers couldn't come up with more clever ways to portray his lack of knowledge.

TIE: b and d

Honestly, Ross being the father is now almost an afterthought in the press once the Joey/Rachel storyline began. Now the likely climax of both major storylines will occur in May, which will no doubt produce the highest ratings ever for the show.

b. 9 seasons gives enough time to tie up loose ends properly.

AARP stands for American Association of Retired People. You become eligible once you turn 50.

a, c, d, f

I really do like Ross, and he has been beaten up too much in my opinion. But just for the sake of predictability, I will be disappointed if the writers let him walk off with Rachel. Jennifer is the prize in most men's eyes, and Ross had his chance for 7 years and blew it. Unless Joey turns into a complete ass, he deserves to end the show with her.

Screw that. ;)

Marita BakkenAnonymous

[email] (Anonymous) wrote in message news:...

None of the above, but if I have to choose; b Season 9 will probably be filled with Ross+Rachel+baby stories, and I don't think they're capable of writing two huge storylines for two couples at the same time.

d Rachel and Joey as roommates was probably the best and funniest storyline in season 7.

a

b

a

b

e

c

b

b

a, c and f

~Marita [email]
TienoAnonymous

not d, the rest is fine by me

f

a

probably b, maybe a

a or/and b

I hope "b", I think "a"

Ross is the father for a reason. It'll be a happy occasion for both Ross and Rachel when Rachel gives bearth. I don't think she'll have Joey at one end as her lover and Ross at the other end as the father of her baby when she's in the delivery room, that's just plain weird. The 9th season (for RnR that is) will probably evolve around their daughter, if the writers want to portray RnR as good parents they'll have to show them with their baby quite a lot. The fact that that Joey has developed feelings for Rachel, that Rachel has moved out and that he has told Ross about his feelings for Rachel all happened in 4 episodes is a good indication of what the intention of the storyline was/is ;-).

c and b

f, season 8 is nice but it relies too much on the ongoing storyline instead of on the good comedy.

b

b

a, e

TienoTieno

Sorry, I realized after I posted it

wendygAnonymous

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d (at the end)

f

3

1

b. d would be interesting, but too complicated -- when you're filiming children of that age, you usually use twins so they don't have to work to much, which in the case of triplets would mean...ai yi yi

b

2, with 8 second (except for the dismally embarrassing Sting story in 8-10).

7, with 6 behind it. Not just that Monica and Chandler just don't make a couple to me, but also a number of cringemaking stories.

b (c and d both depend on that)

(I don't think Joey's really in love with Rachel; I think his paternal instincts have been excited by her pregnancy)

n/c

Monica and Chandler stay married and move to Paris for her to learn cordon bleu cookery. Joey gets a big career break and moves to LA. Ross and Rachel get married and move to the suburbs. Phoebe comes into some money, moves into Monica's apartment, and buys Central Perk. She says they'll all be back, and she'll be there... Paving the way for a spin-off called Phoebe's Perk.

wg

fireflowerwendyg

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d (final eppy)

c as I find this storyline very interesting

a and/or b would probably be the best bets.

Probably Season 6

probably both b & d

it would have been nice to see it rounded off to an even 10, but 9 is the next best choice.

c would indicate a final closing point to show how they've all grown up and moved on, but above all, I hope all of them find happiness regardless of the couple status at the end.

CaitrionAnonymous

[email] (Anonymous) wrote in message news:...

b-They need a baby, but I don't think they should just get pregnant right away. I think they have problems getting pregnant and maybe they go to fertility clinics.

d- have them live together as a boyfriend and girlfriends

a- 3 maybe 4

c-3 at the end of the seris Mona shocks Ross with his baby in her arms and she leaves the baby wit him

a

d

g

a- they were too young and no story lines had really develpoed

d

c

a d f

eileenAnonymous

[email] (Anonymous) wrote in message news:...

B and DI hope they move into a house and have a baby. These people are in their 30s (as am I) and they need to get on with their lives.

f. It would be ridiculous to pair them. This isn't the mix-and-match show.

A. Oh, just 3. I would like to see Ross and Rachel finally work things out.

C. Ross and Rachel can start a relationship and get pregnant again, prompting them to marry.

None of the above. I would have David come back from Minsk.

B. I'd be royally pissed if they broke up Chandler and Monica.

E. Season 5 rocked because of Monica and Chandler's secret relationship.

D. I hated most of season 4. Kathy was butt ugly, Pete was a dud, Joshua was a chicken-fearing chicken, and Emily was a shrew.

B. Monica and Chandler being married, I would like to say, but they haven't really been given any significant storylines. I would have to say Rachel's pregnancy.

E. Forever, but I don't think I can afford to buy that many videotapes. Ha.Ha.

A, F, and E. They should have Joey and Phoebe move to L.A., don't you think?

Sundae777Anonymous

thanks for this, it was cool

TanaAnonymous

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b. (or at least get pregnant towards the end)

f.
a.
b.

A. and B.

Probably a. But I'd rather see e.

h., so far, or e.

c.
b.
b.

a, f, don't know yet about the J/R/R triangle

Tennant StuartTana

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BTW, when we answer this question, are we supposed to count Ben as being born out of wedlock, since he was conceived in wedlock?

Tennant

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Interesting point. I have no idea.

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Well, when I answered b.2, I included Ben - what about everyone else?

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