The Cute Xerox Girl

Oct 2, 200020 posts by 7 postersalt.tv.friends
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[emerging from Lurkerdom]

Howdy all.

I've been a bit lax in catching the syndicated versions of the show, but have noticed that in at least two shows in Season Three (though one _could_ be from Season Two) the girl that Ross eventually took a break from Rachel with is mentioned by the Boys in conversations. Chandler, especially, seems to find her quite exotic/lust-inducing.

My question for y'all is this: was this something the writers planned, or did they simply incorporate what had previously been an off-screen person from the "Friends Universe" and use them for a plot point? Either way, it's a very bit of continuity for a show that has been, *ahem*, somewhat continuity challenged.

Michael Martin http://magisterium.go.cc "oh puh-leeze!"

The writers had already decided to break up R&R before Season 3 even started. So, I'm guessing Chloe was probably planned for a while.

--Doc

Michael Martin wrote:

Bet the rent, they did this on purpose, and had the entire scenario completely planned before the first credits rolled on season three. I think even TOW the Flashback was written with the idea of establishing Ross as a person who would go to the arms of another woman when hurting from rejection.

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Tom Hawleyabrahammyalt.tv.friends

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I find it amazing how much confidence some people have with the writers attention to detail. So many things could so easily be co-incidence.

In article , "Tom Hawley" wrote:

Nah - Claire is almost certainly correct here.

Tennant

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I just don't understand where you draw these assumptions from. Like Pheobe supposedly manipulating C+M for the better at the end of season 6. Can you really not envisage a scripting meeting.

"how shall we break Ross and Rachel up?" "he could cheat on her" "with who. mon.. oh wait.. pheobe?" "no thats too obvious and unlikely." "how about an extra, since theres noone else?" "okay, now we need a premise. COPY SHOP GIRL!" "brilliant. never seen before but mentioned once. the fans will think we're geniouseseses"

it could have happened :)

Tom Hawley wrote:

I suspect a much longer and more carefully thought through version of what you described is what did indeed happen.

Tom Hawleyabrahammyalt.tv.friends

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Hmm. I'd forgotten that the reference to Xerox girl is in 301 so i've changed my mind :)

In article , "Tom Hawley" wrote:

And also in 303. The fact that the Xerox girl was mentioned twice proves that she was not just a throwaway line at the time.

Tennant

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In article , "Michael Martin" wrote:

Where in Season Two are you referring to?

Chandler mentioned "that girl at the Xerox place" in 301 "TOW the Princess Leia Fantasy", and Joey imagined her buck naked covered in jam in 303 "TOW the Jam", but then there was nothing until we saw Chloe herself.

There are lots of signs in early Season Three that the writers are preparing their audience for the shock that is to come. Claire Abraham has pointed out that the brief liaison between Ross & Phoebe in 306 "TOW the Flashback" was all part of the process of reinventing Ross's past, to make his subsequent behaviour seem more likely, even though not more acceptable.

The show is so *not* continuity challenged, its continuity is actually very strong. Most sitcoms do not pay even lip service to continuity, such that the episodes can be shown in virtually any order. In contrast "Friends" has some soap-opera elements in the way its stories continue through the season, and there are many past references that are exquisite in their accuracy.

The fact that there is the odd slip in 146 episodes merely underlines how good they are. And the vast majority of the faults that some fans have complained about turn out not to be the case when correctly evaluated.

Tennant Stuart

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:[email]...

Nothing specific. I believe you and Claire corrected me in noting that she is mentioned in 301 and 303. As noted in the original post, my Friends viewing has taken a sharp nosedive over the last few months, so I was guessing about when Chloe (though unnamed at that point) was mentioned.

[obligatory Ed McMahon imitation] "You are correct, sir!"

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Hadn't put that together, but it makes sense. I don't like it, but it makes sense. Ahh, back in the days when they had actually plotted stuff out...

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Most of the continuity errors/questions arise from the characters' pasts -- who knew whom when, and that sort of thing. You are quite correct, Tennant, in that compared to many sitcoms (at least of the American species), Friends has a much better track record with continuity and self-referencing than other shows. I've found the seemingly-constant reinvention/revision of the Friends' pasts annoying and frustrating, and while having read a great many posts here about it, it's quite obvious they had not carefully mapped out all the backstory, and as a result, have ended up contradicting themselves.

Of course, the Friends cast and crew have _nothing_ on Chris Carter (The X-Files) on contradiction and confusion, but that's a rant for another newsgroup. :-D

Michael Martin http://magisterium.go.cc "oh puh-leeze!"

In article , "Michael Martin" wrote:

Okay, I was just hoping you'd spotted something we'd missed.

I'm sure S6 was plotted out, then they had to throw most of it away.

Such as what? Not the old "Rachel didn't know Chandler" thing, where in fact the later flashback stories are quite consistent with the pilot.

Indeed. I'm not competent to discuss that, since I watch the show quite idly, simply to lust after Gillian Anderson. Red-heads...

Tennant

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:[email]...

[snippety snip]

My respect for you just hit the stratosphere! I also share a crippling weakness for redheads, natural or augmented (Belinda Carlisle, for example....mmmmm).

Gillian Anderson.....[shivering uncontrollably]....she may be the only reason I watch this year. Yowza.

Michael Martin http://magisterium.go.cc "oh puh-leeze!"

In article , "Michael Martin" wrote:

Well thanks, but I'm not sure I deserve it. ;)

Augmented is okay for the TV or movies, but in real life natural is far superior, for obvious reasons...

Lol, she's the best reason to watch The X-Files, but she's actually a blonde you know. And the *best* red-heads have green eyes... (meltdown).

Tennant

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On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Michael Martin stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Is Lea Thompson (Mmmmm...) a natural redhead?

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Paul Hyett stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Also, Alicia Witt.

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/

In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

The IMDb says she wears wigs.

Tennant

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

I'd disagree, I've seen her in various things, including Twin Peaks some years ago as a child, and her hair has always been that colour. Besides, wigs are easy to spot.

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/

Delmont Reeves wrote:

And yet we STILL have no "Standing There" event. Athens 2004? ;)

Jac, v pleased that the Olympics are over, and even more pleased that my teeny-tiny (in terms of sport) university produced 3 gold medallists!