It says last season is unforutnetely season 9... because some actors dont want to do friends anymore.. my questions is why not? :( and who dosent from the friends cast..any info?
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Sep 4, 2002, 11:28 PM ET60 posts by 12 posters
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I believe Jennifer Aniston mentioned about not wanting to continue as well as David Schwimmer(sp?). I'm not positive on those though so don't quote me. What I do know is that Lisa Kudrow did say that she was more than willing to come back for more seasons. "w33t" wrote in message news:VbAd9.95982$[email]...
It seems to me that no one is AGAINST doing more seasons however they all feel the show has run its course & they all seem to be ready to move on to other things. NBC also knows that its time to bring in new blood while things are still hot. Its much easier to introduce new shows when you are the #1 network and have them be successful than if you were say... CBS. Its my personal feeling that no one is saying deffinatly "no more Friends" because NBC is afraid to lose the ratings if their new shows cant pick up enough viewers to keep them number one. NBC wants to play it safe & build a good fan base with the new shows so that after FRIEND leaves the Primetime lineup, people will still watch just as much because they got hooked on the new stuff and NBC wont take such a hard hit when friends ends.
"Friends" is the last of the orig. "MUST SEE TV" line up that made NBC #1 & the station knows it. They also know they are going to lose a lot of advertising dollars if the new shows are not a success. It is my belief that this is the reason they are saying "MORE THAN LIKELY THIS IS THE LAST SEASON" instead of "THIS IS DEFFINATLY THE LAST SEASON" If the new shows bomb, they will most likely keep friends on for a 10th season with the hopes that they will be able to pull a rabbit out of their hat & get viewers hooked on another great sitcom. I do expect that there is fear that with the introduction of the child to the show to two major charecters that they fear things will go by way of other shows (like "Mad About You") where after the baby, the ratings dropped. So they are giving us all one year to test the waters & ratings and preparing for the end they already know is near. What usually happenes after so many years of a shows successfull run is not that the baby ruins the show but they bring in a baby to add material for imaginativly exhausted writers. After so many years even the best writers can get creativly exhausted so its inevidable that most shows go to baby route in an effort to squeeze a little bit more out of the show before ending. I think that many shows decline in quality after the introduction of the baby because the writers are tired & bringing in a baby at the end is a last ditch effort for ideas. I dont think FRIENDS will have any problem including the baby in the story lines because even after 8 years the shows writting is still pretty witty.
If they do decline in ratings, well it deffinatly will be the last year. It comes to money in the end. The cast all love working together & they must be kind of hessitant to leave what they have grown so comfortable with but they all seem as if they are looking forward to a new adventure so it seems to me that is why they are kinda wishy washy when it comes to commiting to this being the final season. They want to move on & desire a change, a chance to take their careers & tallent to a new level but they love the fun security of what they have now. I am sure if they were asked to do a 10th there would be little or no resistance (providing the 10th was really the last) and if ratings continue to be as they have been & the new shows can't pick up enough slack to keep NBC #1, then pretty much count on "FRIENDS" agreeing to remain "FRIENDS" for one last season & rounding out an even 10.
Q: Anyone know which sitcom is the longest running in history? What show was it & How many seasons did it air?
(I have no clue what the answer is)
The Simpsons (1989-present) is the longest running sitcom if you can count a cartoon as a sitcom. If you don't then Married with Children (1987-1997) is the longest running sitcom.
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
Oh no, "Married with Children" doesn't even come close.
I don't regard "The Simpsons" as a genuine sitcom, since it's animated, and if we're not careful we will end up including comedies such as "The Electric Company" (780 episodes), if not "Tattletales" (1075 episodes).
"The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" lasted longer than 14 years if you include its time as a radio sitcom. It began in 1944, transferred to TV in 1952, and ended in 1966 after a total of 22 years. I estimate that there were 621 episodes altogether, roughly equivalent to 26 seasons of "Friends".
Well, in the old days (check out an episode guide for "Bewitched") the seasons were only a few weeks longer than they are now, but there were no breaks except at Xmas, so there were 36 episodes per season.
Indeed, these are the USTV sitcoms which finished with at least 200 episodes, preceded by how far "Friends" needs to go to equal the same amount, if every third season has 25 episodes...
S9-06 200 Coach
S9-08 202 Alice
S9-10 204 Home Improvement
S9-15 209 The Facts of Life
S9-16 210 All in the Family
S9-18 212 The Life of Riley
S9-21 215 Family Matters S10-03 222 Petticoat Junction
S10-03 222 Roseanne S11-04 247 Murphy Brown
S11-06 249 The Andy Griffith Show
S11-11 254 Bewitched
S11-12 255 Happy Days
S11-13 256 M*A*S*H
S11-16 259 Married... with Children S12-07 274 The Beverly Hillbillies
S12-08 275 CheersS14-20 336 Make Room For Daddy
S16-15 380 My Three Sons
S18-22 435 The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet
Tennant
That's
Just off the top of my head, I can only think of three others that I would say are valid (primetime) sitcoms despite being animated.
"The Flintstones" "King of the Hill" "Futurama" (Is that the right name?)
Are there others?
"David Buehrle" wrote in news:3RWd9.104626$[email]:
A "sitcom" has to be funny, which eliminates _King of the Hill_.
Yes.
"Jim" wrote in message news:7D7e9.379180$UU1.60424@sccrnsc03...
LOL I would still include it based on the idea that a sitcom is *supposed* to be funny. There are certainly several shows that wouldn't qualify if they actually had to *be* funny.
On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Daddy Freddy typed this -
OK, Frasier hasn't finished, but it must be well up there...
In terms of sitcoms, 'Last of the Summer Wine'.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
That is the current one, but the longest-running UK sitcom ever is "The Army Game", which ran for 153 episodes from 1957 to 1961.
Tennant
On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Tennant Stuart typed this -
You're wrong - LOTSW had 162 episodes to the end of 1997, and there have been several more series since.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
You're kidding!!! Well, I guess you're not, maybe I should've checked. :)
Can you please supply the URL of an episode guide?
Tennant
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Tennant Stuart typed this -
I can't - I didn't get the info on-line. It came from the 'Radio Times Guide to TV Comedy' published about 4 years ago.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Okay, maybe somebody else knows, yes?
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
That's right. If a show is still going, we don't know what the score is.
Oops, I've got two of those on my list, but to save time I lazily pasted from an earlier post, <smacked don-don>. However, "Leave It To Beaver" and some others wouldn't be quoted anyway, due to lack of reliable information about the number of episodes. How confident are you that 234 is correct?
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
Thankyou, that was *excellent* evidence!
I've now added "Leave It To Beaver" to my list.
Indeed so, that's why I'm wary.
Oh yes, that looks most interesting. I'll study it. Thankyou. :)
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
Absolutely. Those were the days.
That's just what I've been doing. However, I'd like some help with...
The Bob Newhart Show The Donna Reed Show � Father Knows Best � Gimme a Break! The Lucy Show � The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis My Three Sons � The Patty Duke Show The Phil Silvers Show Room 222 � Sandford and Son That Girl
� the number of episodes varies � is this sitcom or comedy/drama � did this ever exist!
Tennant
In article , Tennant Stuart wrote:
Also, I'd like some help with...
Too Close for Comfort
..and is it true that "Spin City" has been cancelled after 6 seasons?
What about "Three Sisters", with the last 4 episodes (215-219) unaired?
Tennant
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:26:36 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:
Yes, the last episode aired this spring.
It's certainly not on NBC's fall schedule, and judging by http://www.epguides.com/ThreeSisters/ , it looks rather dead.
In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:
Oh well, I never much cared for it.
Now, *that* show I liked! No wonder it's never been on in Britain.
Tennant
On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:53:28 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:
Me neither. I watched the last couple of episodes, though.
I thought it was a really dull show. However, NBC seems to have the replacement sitcoms lined up for this fall.
In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:
How did it finish?
Anything that looks exciting?
Tennant
On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 18:12:33 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:
Charlie and Caitlin got together, and that was pretty much it. You could tell that the producers hadn't expected it to end so soon.
No, nothing. "In-laws" is all about Dennis Farina and Jean Smart (Bonnie Somerville plays their daughter), and most critics seem to dislike it. "Good Morning Miami" looks plain *awful*, but it might get good ratings bacause it's on at Thursdays at 9:30 p.m. "Hidden Hills" could make it due to its appeal to families.
In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:
Awww... No guest appearance from Mike Flaherty?
Sounds to me like NBC is really going to struggle if "Friends" ends.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wibbled:
AIUI (US-version) Coupling is destined to take its place. Filming is taking place around now I think (and we get series 3 in November, hurrah!)
Jac
In article , Jacqui wrote:
Let's hope they don't bowdlerise it, then.
No Jacqui, we get it NEXT MONDAY, so don't miss it!
Tennant
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:48:46 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:
Nope. They should have had that, though.
You bet. And with ER struggling against CSI, they don't really have that much going for them at the moment. The only new NBC-show that has gained great praise this year is the criminal drama "Boomtown," which starts next Sunday. Judging by the promos, it looks both original and good.
In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:
Yeah.
Ooh, reminds me of the Boomtown Rats.
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
Thanks!
Thanks again!
Ta, but here's the thing, is this a situation comedy, or a comedy-drama?
showid-680/season-all
Thanks again!
Oh! That just what's been worrying me here...
Thanks for the warning. Is this a situation comedy, or a comedy-drama?
I think your newsreader doesn't support superscripted characters, so you couldn't tell that "did this ever exist" only applied to "The Lucy Show".
Are you so sure that "The Lucy Show" existed?
Oh, okay thanks - so you're sure that "Father Knows Best" was a sitcom?
SHIT!!!!! So *that's* why I couldn't find it... ROTFL
Yes please, to recap...
The Lucy Show The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis The Patty Duke Show The Phil Silvers Show That Girl Too Close for Comfort
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
Okay ta, it's in.
Okay ta, it's out.
Ah, that's a bit naughty of them!
So I see. According to the IMDb, these were all her TV shows...
1951-1957 "I Love Lucy" (1951) [Lucy Esmeralda MacGillicuddy Ricardo] 1957-1960 "The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour" (1957) [Lucy Ricardo] 1962-1968 "The Lucille Ball Show" (1962) [Lucy Carmichael] 1968-1974 "Here's Lucy" (1968) [Lucille Carter] 1986 "Life with Lucy" (1986) [Lucy Barker]
Ah, I can see how the confusion has arisen.
Thanx!
Tennant
On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Tennant Stuart typed this -
That would be 216 - each of the 9 seasons has had 24 episodes.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Good point <checks episode guide> Hmmm... it lists 215 episodes, so Paul must be wrong, and one of the seasons had 23 episodes <checks episode guide again> Oh! Each of the 9 seasons has had 24 episodes, that's odd. <checks episode guide *very*carefully*> Aaaargggh!!! Ta muchly Paul, this is how it describes the last part of Season 9...
211. 9-19 2 Apr 02 Deathtrap 212. 9-20 9 Apr 02 The Love You Fake 213. 9-21 30 Apr 02 Cheerful Goodbyes 213. 9-22 7 May 02 Frasier Has Spokane 214. 9-23 14 May 02 The Guilt Trippers 215. 9-24 21 May 02 Moons Over Seattle
..spot the subtle error. :)
Tennant
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Tennant Stuart typed this -
I actually spotted that months back, and emailed them about it - but they seem to have done nothing about it.
In article , Paul Hyett wrote:
Yes, they can be very slow. It took me ages to get "Coupling" fixed.
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
Maybe, but it doesn't have to keep its cast enthused, something which will spell the end of "Friends", long before viewers lose interest.
Yeppity.
YW
I think it's "Panorama", a current affairs programme still going since 1953 - but we also have "Sky at Night", a monthly astronomy programme with the same presenter since 1957, and the children's magazine show "Blue Peter", running ever since 1958. <Little sigh for Lesley Judd>
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
The voice actors don't receive the public adoration which face actors do.
Fair enough, but I was asked for the longest running *UK* show.
Tennant
In article , Tennant Stuart writes:
Irrelevant to the point that was being made: the voice actors still have to be "kept enthused" in order to be kept from quitting.
In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:
I know, but they're not tempted away.
Tennant
In article , Tennant Stuart writes:
Don't be too sure, my son ;-) I think that's quite a questionable conclusion.
In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:
Yes, dad. :)
You think that "The Simpsons" voice actors are as irreplaceable as the cast of "Friends", that they receive the same tempting offers, that they are paid the same amount of money, that if just one of them should choose to leave, then the show will come to an end next May?
Tennant
In article , Tennant Stuart writes:
You didn't use comparative terms. You cast the question in absolutes, as if the above characteristics are totally meaningless to voice actors, which I find highly questionable. No one ever came *close* to implying that they were *as* irreplaceable as the cast of "Friends".
In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:
Okay James, fair enough, but these are the factors that tend to stop successful sitcoms from being long-running, and which do not apply to animated comedies such as "The Simpsons".
Tennant
In article , Tennant Stuart writes:
They do not apply *as much*. They *do* apply. Some of the Simpsons voice actors have been face actors before, and who is to say they could *never* show up on the screen again in another sitcom?
Obviously, being *only* heard and not seen diminishes their marketability *somewhat*, but not completely.
In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:
Like Daddy Freddy just said, there's nobody tempting them away.
Tennant
In article , Tennant Stuart writes:
And the *only* reason for that is that they are voice actors?????
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as JamesS1889 typed this -
They can walk down the street without getting mobbed too.
In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:
That's most of it, the Great Unwashed doesn't know what they look like.
Tennant
In article , Tennant Stuart writes:
It was a rhetorical question ;-) Aside from the fact that "most" is not "only", I know of at least one Simpson voice actor who is well known as a cast member of a popular sitcom from the 70's, and another who has definitely appeared on screen before. I think the fact that the former is past her prime (Julie Kavner) has probably just as much to do with it as the fact that she is not seen only heard.
JamesS1889 wibbled:
Lipson knows?
Jac
In article , Jacqui writes:
eh? You just knocked me off the fairway and into the trees.
JamesS1889 wibbled:
Aw, come on. Who's the zoo cleaner who warns Ross about the monkey situation?*
Jac
- It's Dan Castellanata (sp?), aka Homer.
Jacqui wrote:
Hehe - it's great to have you back, Jacqui. :)
Tennant
Tennant Stuart wibbled:
I love this line, it's the way he says it.
And which other obvious Simpsons voice has been in Friends?
I'm not promising that I'm properly back, btw. Just experimenting with reading more newsgroups again... and actually *reading* the ones I was already subscribed to.
Jac
Jacqui wrote:
I'm not certain which was obvious, but of course Hank Azaria was brilliant as David the Scientist Guy; while one cannot overlook Harry Shearer as the very creepy Dr. Baldharar, "How about a hammer, or a small blade? If he's up against a jungle cat or an animal with horns, you've got to give the little guy something. Otherwise it's just cruel."
Good idea Jacqui. I've missed you.
Tennant
In article , Jacqui writes:
Doh! Of course, I remember that, but I can't be expected to remember that obscure name as being some line that the zoo cleaner said to Ross, especially since as used above it is not a blatantly obvious non-sequitor.
Hey, I said I was in the tall grass, what do you want from me? ;-)
In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:
Okay.
Yeah.
Tennant
In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:
Moot or not, that is the point, nobody's talking France here.
Fish.
Tennant
*Daddy Freddy* :
Let someone from a country with dubbed US shows speak up: The change of a voice happens sometimes (e.g. Cpt. Picard in "Star Trek TNG", Martin Crane in "Frasier" or almost the whole "Simpsons" cast after season 1 or 2), you dislike it, but after some episodes you don't even remember what the difference to the former voice was. In shows like "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" or "All in the Family" real regular actors were replaced and the shows continued like nothing happened. Also, they could let the character in question die in a plane shoot-down or so.
Christoph
*[email]* :
Both times the mother.
Christoph
*Daddy Freddy* :
Ouch, I meant "Family Matters", which was called "Alle unter einem Dach" in Germany. Little confusion of mine, sorry.
Christoph