Here's the pro R&R post

May 22, 2002, 11:14 AM ET4 posts by 4 posters
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Paul (Johnson walker) should have written this essay but he

hasn't been posting on ATF for a while now. So, I offered to

take his place and write the essay in the hopes that it will

provide for some entertainment in ATF during the summer. :)

I'll start with my stand on the situation before I write the

pro R&R essay. This isn't as articulate as Claire's essay but

here goes:

I used to be an ardent R&R fan when I began watching the

show. Their constant bickering made me lose interest in the

pair. It started with TOW No Ones Ready. I thought Rachel's

behavior towards Ross was unforgivable. Like Claire, I too

think that Ross is too good for Rachel who behaves like a

bitch most of the time. Strangely, I find that she is this

way only with Ross.

I turned into a J&R supporter in season seven where the best

stories and jokes came from Joey and Rachel. Those characters

were the only ones who were constantly funny throughout that

season and they shared great chemistry. With the advent of

episode 812 TOW Joey Dates Rachel, it became very evidant

that these would make a fun couple. Joey is different from

Ross in many ways. Sure, he doesn't have the benefits of a

college degree but he knows how to put Rachel in her place.

Ross never knew and still doesn't know how to do this. That

is one of the many reasons that they shouldn't be together.

Ross and Rachel lack respect for each other, which is

something a child shouldn't be exposed to while growing up.

If they get together immediately after this cliffhanger, it

just wouldn't work because they would mess it up again and

this time there's a child involved.

Having said all of that, I will now proceed to say exactly

the opposite. :P

I'm a J&R fan but I am open to a R&R relationship provided it

happens gradually. So, I'd like to write how they become a

couple again before stating the advantages of their

relationship.

Here goes:

Come September and the misunderstanding over the ring is

quickly cleared up. Joey realises that these two still have

way too much baggage for him to add to their problems and

backs off. Chandler will be the good friend that he used to

be and talks to Joey to help him get over Rachel.

Meanwhile, Ross and Rachel take Emma home and decide that

they will leave things the way they are for the time being.

Ross gives the ring back to Judy and tells her to stay the

hell away from his personal matters.

Rachel gets to spend a lot of time at home with the baby

thanks to the extended maternity leave that Joey had "helped"

her get. Months pass as little Emma grows and Rachel learns

what it is to be a mom. Ross keeps the promise he made to

her and stays by her side to help her out with all the baby

matters. Motherhood teaches Rachel to be less selfish and

patient or is that wishful thinking on my part? As they share

countless joyous moments with their child, it slowly dawns on

them that they are more of a married couple than Chandler and

Monica.

Rachel wants to give the relationship a go but Ross is

somewhat hesitant. He reminds her of all the times that she

has been unbelievably demanding and turns her down. He does

have feelings for her but doesn't want to jeopardise his

daughter's future by entering into a hasty relationship that

might turn sour again. This leaves a complete shocked Rachel,

who is left to ponder on her past mistakes. She actively

makes attempts to be a better person for the sake of her

child. She doesn't make fun of his career even though she

still doesn't understand anything he says. For his part, Ross

doesn't make "Jurassic Parka" jokes either. She lets him go

on dates and doesn't ask him to be at her beck and call all

the time. Rachel dates too, not with Joey though. No, that

would complicate things again. :)

Months later, Ross notices the change in Rachel and proposes

to give their relationship a go. She accepts and they start

dating again. Suprisingly, everything goes well. This is a

mature relationship that doesn't involve mind games and ego

trips. Finally Ross proposes and they marry. They have to

elope because they can't have a proper wedding after their

fake wedding fiasco.

Despite their best attempts, old dragons rear their head when

juggling careers and their child and mistakes are made. Ross

won't take the blame anymore and she can't run away from her

problems. After undergoing some marriage counceling, they

stock of the situation and make amends. Slowly they plough

through their troubles and finally, finally learn what it

takes to be in a trusting relationship while maintaining

respect.

Conclusion: Advantages of the Ross and Rachel relationship that come from

the above mentioned scenario:

With both parents under one roof and married, they provide an

ideal and stable environment for little Emma.

To borrow a few lines from the show, little Emma would be

popular in school with an aptitude for science. :)

Rachel is no longer Princess Bitch. She is a mature, smart

career woman who is also a great mom.

Thanks to the intake of various calcium supplements, Ross has

a stronger backbone. :P

Ross and Rachel respect each other. Jokes about each others

careers are only made in good fun and never to ridicule.

We don't have to see any bickering or mind games or guilt

trips.

There is no use for 'fat' in their fridge.

Diehard R&R fans would be thrilled.

MLB would be relieved that he doesn't have to play the Joey

who's in love with Rachel again.

Oh and Joey moves on and falls in love with Phoebe, not. At

some point, Joey moves to California for various movie deals

and hooks up with Kate Millar there.

-Priya

__howie__p r i y a

I don't realy think they will date again after Emma's birth. I mean with other ppl. Now that Rachel has given birth to Emma, i don't think they will think about anything else than staying most of their free time together with the baby. And that's why I think it will take less time that you think to put them back together, but I might be wrong.

Another point : have you ever thought that the writers of the show come on ATF and see what good things they could put on the show ? I mean they have a lot ppl right here spending a great amount of time thinking what could happen, etc... and so do part of their job which they are paid for.... Must be funny to see if they took some of the ideas proposed here....

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OK, everybody... go out there and get a really good lawyer! Especially you, Dan. I figure the Friends producers owe you huge royalties for the season five inspiration!