807: The One With the Stain Review

S08E07 The One With the StainliveNov 8, 2001, 10:08 PM ET2 hours after the credits20 posts by 14 posters
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Storyline:: After breaking his engagement with Ursula to be with Phoebe, Eric finally realizes he is attracted to Phoebe and invites her to his apartment. But things turn out to be very awkward and upsetting in the end.

Characters: Phoebe and Eric (Sean Penn)

Review: I sort of enjoyed this two-parter storyline continued from last week’s episode. I thought it was good for Eric to break up with Ursula for all the obvious reasons and I guess that was the second time he told her. But it was sad to see that Eric is having a hard time falling in love with Phoebe because she looks exactly like her sister Ursula. It seems like this might be kind of a recycled-type of storyline from The One With All the Jam with Malcolm who couldn’t get over Ursula either. Overall it was a decent storyline, and the most unpredictable part of the episode which was amusing in the end. The storyline wasn’t as funny as the first part from last week’s episode though. Well all I can say is, at least Ursula got another round of Eric for one last time.

Storyline Grade: 85 (B) -------------------------------------- Storyline:: Rachel plans on moving out for the baby’s sake because she feels it will be an uncomfortable lifestyle for Joey which Joey isn’t too happy about. In the mean time Ross knows of an apartment in his building that might be available for Joey. But first he decides to learn Dutch to get familiar with the ready-to-die occupant.

Characters: Rachel, Ross, and Joey

Review: Well it wasn’t what he thought it was going to be which did it? It was another sentimental storyline. In the end I am glad I am both happy that Rachel decided to stay with Joey because it meant a lot to him and the second reason is because it wasn’t overly dramatic; we have had way too many storylines like that so far this season. It sort of showed a type of friendship that Joey feels towards Rachel and vica-versa. But I think in the end, things might become a little bit different when the baby is actually brought in to the world and the apartment. The amusing part of the whole storyline to me was Ross trying to learn Dutch so he could become aquatinted with the occupant in his apartment who is on her deathbed, I think. I guess that “Aisel” phrase was one of Gunther’s attempts to make fun of Ross in front of his face since both Ross and Rachel were going out. The storyline as a whole was a bit predictable but the reasons for Rachel’s staying was a bit unpredictable. To me the storyline seemed the shortest out of all three yet still turned out to be one of the better ones. There were a few good laughs here and there, but I was mostly anticipating for Rachel’s decision to stay or not to stay with Joey. And I was happy with the result.

Storyline Grade: 90 (A)
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Storyline:: Chandler decides to hire a maid who is doing a great job at the same time Monica feels suspicious that the she might be taking some of her clothes.

Characters: Chandler, Monica, and Brenda (the maid)

Review: A decent Mondler storyline if I do say so myself. This is probably one of my second favorite Mondler storylines this season. Some of us thought that “the stain” the title was referring to a perverted type of thing. It actually wasn’t; it was a stain on Monica’s old jeans The one thing I can say about this episode is that Monica was a hoot with her constant obsession to see if the stain was in the crotch and her falling out of her chair. And let’s not forget Brenda thinking Monica was a lesbian. To me Chandler was just “there” the whole time and really didn’t provide any one-liner laughs but still managed to keep the storyline on a good level. In the end we find out that it was Rachel who borrowed the stained pants and Monica who was wearing the ripped pink-flowered bra she thought Brenda stole: a bit amusing. I don’t care what anyone else says but I liked it not as much as the other two.

Storyline Grade: 85 (B-)

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Notes

I know everybody is going to ask this but could somebody please translate the Dutch they spoke in the episode?

You can actually read some of the Dutch dialogue if you use close captioning in some parts.

Chandler never really said why he got Monica a maid, did he?

Who is Pearl Hermon?

Did anybody notice a framed picture hanging of Monica and Chandler at the wedding by their room?

Ursula was wearing the same suit as Phoebe but was wearing a big coat to cover most of it.

We see Hugsy: Joey’s bedtime Penguin pal!

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807’s overall Grade: 87 (B-) ----------Matt----------------- Visit my web-site: The One With the Uncut Friends Scripts
Velvet FroggXMuSicFrEAk820

I think it was because he didn't want to clean. They wanted you to believe that she's always nagging him to clean and she came home and was suprized at how clean the place was and that was because he hired a maid.

I didn't think Ursula was in tonights show... Did I miss something? It was Phoebe who came back wearing the purple outfit w/ the big coat over it.

This is me!

What kind of scary ass clowns came to your birthday parties?

~Teresa~Velvet Frogg

----- Original Message ----- From: "Velvet Frogg" Newsgroups: alt.tv.friends Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Re: 807: The One With the Stain Review

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Was that believable to anyone? All I remember is when she freaked out early in their relationship (living together), when he *did* clean the house. Seems to me she would be really against a maid.

That's what I got out of it too, they didn't show "Ursula" at all.

~Teresa~

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Oh that was from a rough draft-review of this episode. I forgot to update it when I posted it on here.

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I agree here. Monica seems like one of those people who would *never* encourage Chandler (or anyone for that matter) to help in the cleaning, because you *know* he would do it wrong--as he had already demonstrated!

I don't think she would trust him to do *one* cleaning chore, much less expect him to clean so thoroughly that he hired a maid.

I didn't buy this plot at all. It almost seemed like a hurtful thing to do. Monica *likes* to clean, folks. Taking that away from her is just mean!

Connor

"Love makes you do the wacky." ~Buffy
CandiGrrlThe Girl Connor

The Girl Connor wrote in message ...

Actually I agree! I'm one of those cleaning freaks too (yes yes I know) and once my parents hired a maid. At first I was okay but then I started cleaning up after her and putting everything back how I liked it. Crazy? Maybe! But if I am, Monica is too - she's definitely worse than me.

SofyaCandiGrrl

I got something even crazier! When i was staying in my Uncle's house in California, my Aunt made us clean up BEFORE the maid got to the house!! She would knock on my room at 10 AM and would say "Clean the room, the maid is coming in half an hour!" Crazy! lol

Sofya

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CandiGrrlSofya

Sofya wrote in message ...

That makes sense actually. I sometimes did that too. But because I did it all after she came it was always sparkly fresh shiny clean anyway. My parents got rid of the maid after about a month because it was just making me tidy up more, and they wanted me to tidy up less which was why they got her in the first place... or something like that. Really not that good!

Mark MellinSofya

In article , "Sofya" wrote:

Not really. If one tidies up before the maid arrives, then there will be more time spent cleaning, rather than tidying. Also, we make it a point to put away any treasured breakables or things we'll be needing soon before our housekeeper arrives (lest they be "put away" someplace we don't know about).

  • Mark
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JordyXMuSicFrEAk820

Wow, another episode about Dutch people?? Yee, I'll translate it the when I see the episode (I hope I can download it later today).

Let's hope it's better then the "Dutch" girl with the Russian accent (the football episode), or the Dutch the fake-monica tried to speak ("Mag ik deze dans van u?").

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Well, I've just seen the episode and I'll beat you to it ;-) Here goes:

When Ross and Rachel are standing at the door of the apartment: daugther: "Ik ben vereerd om een vriend van mij moeder te ontmoeten" (I'm honored to meet a friend of my mother)

In the Central Perk: Ross: "Bedankt voor de koffie" (thanks for the coffee, obviously) Gunther:"Je spreekt nederlands, dat is heel kek. Heb je familie daar? ("You speak Dutch, thats great!" ('kek' is a pretty lame word though, no one over here would ever use it) " ..you've got family over there?") When Ross doesn't understand: Gunther: "Ezel!" (literaly it means 'donkey', but can be used as 'Stupid') When Ross gets the meaning of the word: Gunther: "Jij hebt seks met ezels" ("You have sex with donkeys")

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In the first storyline you said 85 is a B and in the third storyline you said an 85 is a B-. 80-83 is a B-, 84-87 is a B, 87-89 is a B+. 90-94 is a A-.

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He breaks up with Ursula to be with Phoebe before he realizes he's attracted to Phoebe?

The apartment's for Rachel, not Joey . . .

We didn't see Ursula this episode . . it was all-Phoebe, all-the-time.

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I liked this episode a little better than last weeks, but still not up to par with the earlier episodes of the season.

Sean Penn saying "Blursula" got the biggest laugh from me.

Nope. I have no idea why he would. Who needs a maid when you have Monica. Unless he wanted her to try and learn how to relax. It's not like lack of time was an issue, since she was standing there hovering over the maid.

I was wondering the same thing

No, but I did notice the totally cool Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots on the Magnadoodle. I was wondering if you can actually draw that on a Magnadoodle or if someone pasted a drawing on there. It looked too good to be a Magnadoodle picture.

JamesS1889Lora J

In article , "Lora J" writes:

I must confess I was confused by that whole notion myself. Actually I thought it was kind of stupid, for the same reason you cited. I can see wanted her to learn to relax, but obviously getting a maid is not the way to do that ;-)

I'm not sure there IS a way to do "that". --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889
damianXMuSicFrEAk820

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Here are the Dutch dialogues from friends series 807

scene with daughter of Miss Verho(e)ven

Daughter:    "So you speak Dutch. Zeer vereerd om een vriend van mijn moeder
te ontmoeten."
trans:           "...                              (I'm) very honored to
meet a friend off my mother."

scene with Gunter in Central Perk

Ross:        "thanx for the coffee, or ah. Bedankt voor de koffie,Gunter"
trans:        "                                         thanx for the
coffee, Gunter "
Gunter:     "Je spreekt Nederlands, dat is te gek. Heb je familie daar?"
trans:        "You speak Dutch, that's cool. Do you have relatives(family)
there?"
Ross:        "Yeah, we're done"
Gunter:     "Ezel"
trans:        "Donkey"
Ross:        "Hey Gunter, you're an ezel"
Gunter:     "Jij hebt seks met ezels"'
trans:        "You have sex with donkeys"
Ross:        "I brought her some bloemen"
trans:        "                            ...flowers" (as if this one
wasn't very obvious)

This was the Dutch spoken in Friens 807. It was really nice to hear my own langue spoken in the friends serie. Both Ross and Gunter spook it extremly well. Didn't liked Rachel's remark "sertain dutch people would just let go" though. Guess she was referring to the way the Dutch left New York when they had to hand it over to the English (in fact they traded it with Suriname). But then again I can see the disappointment from the New Yorkers cause they could have been really liberal ;-)

Damian

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no regrets, but i already posted this a couple of weeks ago

"damian" wrote in message news:m6BM7.184185$[email]...

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Sofyadamian

How close are the Dutch and German languages?

Sofya

"damian" wrote in message news:m6BM7.184185$[email]...

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Close but not closer then English to Dutch.

if you're really interested you could take a look at this page http://www.ned.univie.ac.at/publicaties/taalgeschiedenis/en/germaans.htm here they explain the relation between Englisch - German - Dutch.

My newsreader must have skipped this one. I collected some old postings but interrupted the transfer before completing. So I didn't saw the translations so i thought "well, heah".

Damian

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Not to close actually. sometimes it"s really gonna mess up your head