Ross and Rachel Spoilers for season 8

Apr 20, 2002, 6:01 PM ET15 posts by 8 posters
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Caitrion

Ok I would just like to say a few words. I know that many people are not going to agree with me on this but maybe some will. Anyway I am always reading about people comparing Ross' three divorces to Rachel and how she ran out on Barry and how one of Ross' three failed marriages was to her well I never really saw it this way. In Ross' cause the first divorce was very werid because of the fact that Carol turned out to be a lesbein. I don't really think this was Ross's fault but it leaves him "divorced from a pregnant lesbien" and with Emily I think that was totally Ross' fault because yes Rachel flew to London to tell him she was in love with him, but she didn't. In a way Rachel comming to the wedding was good because she saw how "in love" Ross was with Emily and she was there for his wedding which made him feel good. Everyone should have won except for some far out reason Ross said Rachel's name. Now the third so called marriage was to Rachel in Vegas, but this would not have been a big deal except I think it was piled ontop of Ross' other two divorces which made it easeir for people to make fun of him . I think that in Rachel cause she had never been divorced so it didn't seem so funny. I also think that in that situation Rachel recieved a lot of symapthy because of the fact that Ross lied to her and told her he had gotten the annulment. If she had never answered the phone and she eventaully wanted to get married she could be in trouble because she was legally wed to Ross. Also Rachel and Ross were very cute but I always thought on some level Rachel was a rebound off of Carol because you can clearly see that Ross really loves Carol and the marriage did not end on the fact that they were not in love anymore at least Ross was still in love with her. She was a lesbien. In the pilot when Ross walks in he is very upset over the fact that Carol moved out her stuff. Then later he asks Rachel if it would be alright if he asked her out some time. I think that Ross did love Rachel but on some level he still loved Carol as well. I also think that the reason Ross slept with Chole was of his fear of losing Rachel although I do not excuse him for doing so I feel it was fear of losing Rachel that led him to sleep with Chole. He did not think, he was upset and he was drunk. On the other issue of the list; Ross broke up with two girlfriends to go to Rachel Julie and Bonnie and both of these were very nice people. I don't think he should have kissed Rachel knowing he was still with Julie. In my opinion out of all his girlfriends Julie was the best (besides Rachel) Ok on to Rachel and Barry. I think that Rachel could have handled that situation better, but however I think that it was better to run out on Barry then to marry him when she didn't love him because eventually they would have had to get divorced and what about if they had any children. On top of that Barry was having an affair with Mindy before they were supposed to get married. So I think that Barry was not a good candiate for marriage. I suppose the same agruement could be used for Emily but I think that she was justified in thinking the way she did because Ross did say Rachel's name at the wedding and he did take her on their honeymoon. This was just a cause of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but Emily was all ready to forgive Ross until he gave the extra ticket to Rachel. Just a few thoughts on the Joey/Ross/Rachel situation. I know that it has been pretty dormant for the last few eposoides and this could be considered closure, but I think that Ross and Rachel were close in the first few seasons which then Rachel and Jowy became close. In 119 Rachel is afraid of losing Ross and in season 8 she is afraid of losing Joey they seem to shift. Rachel and Ross kind of lose their closeness and Joey and Rachel gain theirs. I am suprised we didn't see something like this happening sooner.

And if anyone is wondering. Yes I know it is just a tv show.

JamesS1889Caitrion

In article , [email] (Caitrion) writes:

["a few words" snipped] And your main point was ... what, exactly?

I honestly tried to read your post, but about halfway through, I needed to jump off the careening bus and then regain my bearings.

I sense some kind of disagreement on your part with other sentiments that have been posted here, but that's about all I could discern.

It might help to use more periods ('.'). Several times I saw sentences that were really two sentences.

It also might help to start a new paragraph when you are moving on to a new thought. Huge long paragraphs with sentences run together, and with several typos and grammar mistakes thrown in for free, really make my head spin. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889 IDF Soldiers' Combatant Letter 2002 - http://seruv.nethost.co.il/defaulteng.asp Personal Testimony of an Israeli Refusenik - http://www.shalomctr.org/html/peace84.html

SofyaJamesS1889

(Below) my thoughts exactly. What was your point Caitron? What are you for or against? What do you agree or disagree with?

Sofya

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CaitrionJamesS1889

[email] (JamesS1889) wrote in message news:...

Well firstly I would just like to say that my name is actually Caitriona. with an a but for some reason everytime a post something is says Caitrion. Anyway I am sorry if my post was a little too long for you guys and I am sorry if I did not use perfect english. I didn't have a direct point. I was just addressing some issues. I am sorry if I made grammar mistakes. I type what I think and if it makes your head spin... Don't read it. I don't need people correcting my grammar I could care less if people replyed to my posts or not.

abrahammyCaitrion

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Hon, that isn't really the problem. It isn't that we are somehow offended by your grammar. We just can't understand what you are saying. Isn't that the point of posting?

CaitrionPete Bartlett

"Pete Bartlett" wrote in message news:...

wow I cannot believe you actually did that. That is really mean. Latley the tone of this newsgroup has gotten to be nastier and nastier. I have just recently learned to type and I am trying really hard. Sometimes I always don't catch my mistakes and I just type as I think as I said before. I feel like everything I wrote is contricted and analzyed to death and I wish that people won't purposley point out my mistakes just to make fun of me. I understand what you guys are saying about my post. I will revise it and try to make it easier to understand. Thanks for the comments (except this one) they helped me to understand what I am doing wrong in my posts. I just had a lot to say.

David BuehrleCaitrion

"Caitrion" wrote in message news:[email]...

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It's a very positive attitude to look at honest criticism objectively and turn it to your own benefit. I compliment you on it.

As for typos and general misspelling, it is standard convention to ignore these minor difficulties and concentrate on the message. If we spent time correcting each other's misspellings, we'd never be able to get to the point.

I can't speak for everyone in the ng, but I look forward to your continued contributions. :-)

DennisDavid Buehrle

"David Buehrle" wrote in message news:F8lx8.34868$[email]...

As always David, you come off as a stand-up guy. I second your above opinions.

Dennis "Nothing is so bad, that it can't get worse!"
piece-of-peaceDennis

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I like if someone corrects my misspellings because English isn't my native language. That way, I'm able to learn something while I'm discussing about Friends...

David Buehrlepiece-of-peace

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That's not a bad idea for people who welcome it, but it should probably be done via email directly, rather than posting the correction in the ng. This way you benefit, but the rest of us can avoid the lesson in our native language. (Even though there are many of us that could use a little help now and then.)

JamesS1889Caitrion

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Fair enough. I was only operating under the assumption that anyone who posts here feels they have something interesting to say and is interested in starting a conversation, and I was just trying to convey my difficulty in doing so.

Peace. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889 IDF Soldiers' Combatant Letter 2002 - http://seruv.nethost.co.il/defaulteng.asp
David BuehrleCaitrion

"Caitrion" wrote in message news:[email]...

Wow, that's a lot to bite off at one time.

I think both Ross and Rachel, and the other friends for that matter, have flaws. Exaggerating those flaws from time to time makes the flaws funny. So, they all make mistakes. I think that's a given. IMO, it really shouldn't be a contest over who is worse than whom, although comparisons are inevitable.

With regard to Rachel being afraid of losing Ross, I think Rachel has demonstrated that she has often been afraid of losing Ross as a prospective mate. Her fear of losing Joey was only losing a dear friend. (At least, that's how I interpret the direction the show seems to be going.)

CaitrionCaitrion

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CaitrionCaitrion

[email] (Caitrion) wrote in message news:...

And if anyone is wondering. Yes I know it is just a tv show.